Coronavirus and DCL Megathread - Suspension of Departures for the fleet until early November. Booking only available from early December.

[Snowwhyt]

https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus-2/gov-ige-confirms-first-case-of-coronavirus-in-hawaii/Discussion by Dr. Josh Green about a “60 day pause” plan to stop all cruises being discussed. Because of the Princess Cruise.

 

[KevinFL]

We are sailing on the April 11th fantasy and I had moved a couple weeks ago from a family ocean view to a verandah 4a gty stateroom because if we did get quarantined I didn’t want to be stuck without access to fresh air with 5 people in a small room. My kids are 15, 12 & 10 so it would get cramped quickly. Well I’ve been checking daily for my room assignment, and today I got an email from the concierge team that we were given a complementary upgrade to a concierge family ocean view veranda!!’ So excited, it was a $13k difference for concierge when I changed from ocean view to veranda which was only $950, which was worth my peace of mind. Unless we are sick we fully intend to sail. We are in South Florida so we are a quick drive to Port Canaveral. But it’s nice to know if we have to change last minute we can, so thanks Disney!! The concierge when I spoke to him said he did notice we had sailed a lot with DCL we have 8 under our belt this one will make 9, so maybe this helped with the Pixie Dust!! Any business is vulnerable with this virus threat and we just have to roll with the punches and make the best decisions we can with the current information.

Never heard of them doing this; usually unbooked Concierge cabins are available for people to pay for upgrade at port on embarkation day. This explains why I am seeing many Concierge cabins disappear for upcoming cruises in the next several weeks. Anyone else received this upgrade?

 

[randumb0]

https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus-2/gov-ige-confirms-first-case-of-coronavirus-in-hawaii/Discussion by Dr. Josh Green about a “60 day pause” plan to stop all cruises being discussed. Because of the Princess Cruise.

That may not be a bad idea. There were several cases linked to a cruise in Egypt

 

[mom4fun]

https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus-2/gov-ige-confirms-first-case-of-coronavirus-in-hawaii/Discussion by Dr. Josh Green about a “60 day pause” plan to stop all cruises being discussed. Because of the Princess Cruise.

Oh,boy....... that could be bad for our Hawaii cruises coming up in April and May. It’s not like you can move it to a Hawaii cruise in 2021.

 

[cats mom]

Hey! I was wondering if you could update this chart after googling “normalcy bias”?

To be fair I'd suggest including both "normalcy bias" and "overreaction" in the search.

Of course everyone is free to make their own determination as to which direction they think the response to coronavirus is trending.

 

[dhutchin12]

Can a person cancel a cruise and rebook it since it is now a GT rate?

 

[Jon Mraz]

I think the key is to be proportional. We knew this outbreak was happening in late January. Both we (the American public) and our government chose to ignore the looming threat. There are thousands of cases in the US right now that we don’t know about yet because there are not enough working test kits.

The point isn’t to overreact every time or under react, but to be vigilant and take proportional action. There’s no reason that people should have bum rushed Costco this week if they had started preparing slowly but surely in early Feb.

To be fair I'd suggest including both "normalcy bias" and "overreaction" in the search.

Of course everyone is free to make their own determination as to which direction they think the response to coronavirus is trending.

 

[Sakura1017]

Sorry! It’s basically says what I had mentioned above, that cruises booked though May 31 can move their date without penalty and that if you choose to go ahead on the cruise you will receive anywhere from $100-$200 stateroom credit. If we go next Saturday, we would get the $150 credit.

Well what happens if you already have on board credit on a cruise, and according to the cruise contract you are already maxed out on credit for the cruise? Hmmmm

 

[mousefan73]

To keep up on latest travel restrictions this is a great resource. Not only for Corona but general visa and other current updates c

https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/in...cu2GFWtt0azE7XAStQVsUd1q4yzrEtKAIxwHTUWbH61I4

 

[mom2brooke76]

Well what happens if you already have on board credit on a cruise, and according to the cruise contract you are already maxed out on credit for the cruise? Hmmmm

That was Carnival that I posted about and they were giving it in addition to any other credit you had.

 

[Meriweather]

• Beginning Friday, March 6, all guests and crew members will have their temperature checked by a nurse with a no touch thermometer prior to boarding. Additional medical screening will be required for anyone with a temperature of 100.4º F or greater, and they along with their travel party may be unable to sail.
• Finally, guests scheduled to sail between now and May 31, 2020, can now change their reservation up until the day before embarkation and receive a 100% cruise credit to be used for a future sailing within 12 months of their original sail date. You can make this change by calling 1-866-325-2112. The credit is non-refundable and standard prevailing rates will apply.

must be for all cruise lines......We got an email for a cruise that starts today on RCCL saying the same thing

 

[mousefan73]

so there is online speculation that when Trump meets with cruiseline CEOS they will decide on a 60 day stop.. so I did some quick math using figures I just came up with..
Let's assume 40 ships leaving the US market. Each ship has 3000 pax.. just just estimate a week sailing. each passenger is worth 700 dollars in revenue.( some higher some lower). Now let's add on another 300 per pax for airtravel, hotel, car rentals, food, dining etc... so 1000 per passengers.

1000 unit x 120,000 passengers each week x 8 weeks. we are looking at 960 MUSD almost 1 billion.
Now what about crew? Most do not have visas. so will these shifts be floating hotels in commercial/military docks? My figures do not incude the crew numbers.

The above does not keep in mind the costs the cruiselines will incur with no cash in. I am sure they as the airlines now are having more cash out in refunds for those before PIF or insurance claims. then incoming revenue...

conclusion: not a pretty picture

and I just heard a segment on TV, the insurance companies are not prepared for this too

 

[stowe75]

so there is online speculation that when Trump meets with cruiseline CEOS they will decide on a 60 day stop.. so I did some quick math using figures I just came up with..
Let's assume 40 ships leaving the US market. Each ship has 3000 pax.. just just estimate a week sailing. each passenger is worth 700 dollars in revenue.( some higher some lower). Now let's add on another 300 per pax for airtravel, hotel, car rentals, food, dining etc... so 1000 per passengers.

1000 unit x 120,000 passengers each week x 8 weeks. we are looking at 960 MUSD almost 1 billion.
Now what about crew? Most do not have visas. so will these shifts be floating hotels in commercial/military docks? My figures do not incude the crew numbers.

The above does not keep in mind the costs the cruiselines will incur with no cash in. I am sure they as the airlines now are having more cash out in refunds for those before PIF or insurance claims. then incoming revenue...

conclusion: not a pretty picture

and I just heard a segment on TV, the insurance companies are not prepared for this too

If they do impose a 60 day stop...which I am thinking is very likely at this point. Do you think we will be refunded our full fare? I know you don't know but just seeing what people are speculating. Or just the current option to rebook on a future cruise? I have been trying to get in touch with my Dreams Unlimited agent to rebook our 3/21/2020 cruise to March 2020 but have not had a reply yet. Which is irritating me because I want to move on with my vacation plan B and book a stay elsewhere. I hate to be a pest but I want to get this off my plate especially since we are theoretically supposed to sail 2 weeks from today. BUT if they swing to a full refund I think I would rather have my money back at this point. Especially since now I am going to incur hotel costs under Plan B.

 

[flstatenolefan]

Has anyone tried to get their cruise transferred to a Disney World hotel vacation instead? There are absolutely no cruise itineraries that fit in our schedule for the next year without a significant cost increase.

 

[NMK62303]

We are sailing on the April 11th fantasy and I had moved a couple weeks ago from a family ocean view to a verandah 4a gty stateroom because if we did get quarantined I didn’t want to be stuck without access to fresh air with 5 people in a small room. My kids are 15, 12 & 10 so it would get cramped quickly. Well I’ve been checking daily for my room assignment, and today I got an email from the concierge team that we were given a complementary upgrade to a concierge family ocean view veranda!!’ So excited, it was a $13k difference for concierge when I changed from ocean view to veranda which was only $950, which was worth my peace of mind. Unless we are sick we fully intend to sail. We are in South Florida so we are a quick drive to Port Canaveral. But it’s nice to know if we have to change last minute we can, so thanks Disney!! The concierge when I spoke to him said he did notice we had sailed a lot with DCL we have 8 under our belt this one will make 9, so maybe this helped with the Pixie Dust!! Any business is vulnerable with this virus threat and we just have to roll with the punches and make the best decisions we can with the current information.

We are on the same cruise! Hope to see you there - we have 16 yo triplets wish we could get an upgrade too!! That would be awesome. Congrats on the upgrade!

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Has anyone tried to get their cruise transferred to a Disney World hotel vacation instead? There are absolutely no cruise itineraries that fit in our schedule for the next year without a significant cost increase.

You cannot do that. Different divisions. Might as well be trying to transfer a Walmart credit to Target.

 

[mom4fun]

If they do impose a 60 day stop...which I am thinking is very likely at this point. Do you think we will be refunded our full fare? I know you don't know but just seeing what people are speculating. Or just the current option to rebook on a future cruise? I have been trying to get in touch with my Dreams Unlimited agent to rebook our 3/21/2020 cruise to March 2020 but have not had a reply yet. Which is irritating me because I want to move on with my vacation plan B and book a stay elsewhere. I hate to be a pest but I want to get this off my plate especially since we are theoretically supposed to sail 2 weeks from today. BUT if they swing to a full refund I think I would rather have my money back at this point. Especially since now I am going to incur hotel costs under Plan B.

Hopefully we will hear more today. Disney could offer refunds only to those that are cruising within the next 60 days since they would be forced to cancel whether they want to or not.

 

[flstatenolefan]

You cannot do that. Different divisions. Might as well be trying to transfer a Walmart credit to Target.

That's what I was thinking, but thought it might be worth a shot. I thought I read about a family that missed a cruise that were sent to Disney World instead.

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

We already have a PC cruise booked for next Feb. If they are going to cancel our March cruise, I'd love to be able to apply those funds to our already booked cruise. The PC cruise requires a substantial use of vacation hours (14 nights cruise + travel days) and not even factoring the cost in $ it would be hard to take another vacation so close to the one planned.

 

[mom2brooke76]

Just wanted to say that Carnival released the folllowing today. It’s nice that, other than toppings area (where there are two small ones) everything else, including the buffet will no longer be self serve. I’m sure they’re being more diligent due to their Princess ship situation.