Coronavirus and DCL Megathread - Suspension of Departures for the fleet until early November. Booking only available from early December.

[Adventurelawyer]

In Italy they are setting up ICU beds in hallways, operating rooms, meeting rooms, etc... basically anywhere they have space that will work - and that is within the hospitals. Presumably not all of those spaces have what is needed to also hook up mechanical ventilators, or at least not easily [eg may have power, but do you have wall gas ? if not, and it can be attached to a tank, do you have enough tanks, ability to refil or replace and enough people to monitor and do that when needed, etc etc].

(ETA: and this is aside from the issue of having enough personnel to deal with a patient on a ventilator in the first place; and enough ventilators for the number of patients who need them)

In Italy, they are also undergoing medical rationing. Reports state that if you are over 80, you are not being put in a vent if you need one. The likelihood of survival is low and there are so many others in need. The next step is to eliminate medically fragile young people. So, as was discussed last night, 20 year olds may not get vents if the likelihood of their survival is low and demand for the machines are high with respect to otherwise healthy patients.


These are the tough choices I talked about last month, the ones I suggested the arrogant and ignorant attitude came from not having ever had to make. This is the exact reason we all need to do out part to flatten the curve. I don’t want Nanna’s death on my conscience over a cruise. Neither does DCL, apparently.

 

[Starwind]

My sister and my BIL were planning to go to Montreal to celebrate their 40th birthdays next month, this is probably not going to happen either.

Thank God we have this Greek Isles cruise booked for June 2021 on the Magic to look forward to Took a bunch of Greece, Med ports out from the library before they temporary suspended operations last Friday.

FYI, as of end of the week anyone coming to Canada from out of the country is supposed to self-isolate for 14 days. Assuming that lasts for a while and the borders even remain open, that would likely scupper their trip to Montreal.

We have a DCL Alaska cruise scheduled for May 2021. I am hopeful the worst of covid will have passed by then and things returned to some kind or normaly and that we will be able to cruise then. But also realize things may not. So we are continuing to research and plan, but also knowing it may get pushed into 2022. One thing I was looking forward to that I will miss is reading people's trip reports for this year's Alaska season, as I was hoping to use those as part of my research !

Our city's library system does a lot of ebook lending, for free. See if your library does the same ? While ours does not have all the titles I would like to read available by ebook, they do have a surprising amount, including many travel titles.

 

[mmmears]

It is such a mess and I feel so sorry for those people stuck at airports and in customs trying to get back into the country.

Spoiler

This is insane at a time when we are asking for social distancing. What a mess. My DD landed home last night from Europe and thankfully wasn't stuck in a mess like this. She was off the plane and though customs (we have GOES) and through the screening in about 10 mins. They did ask questions, but didn't check temperatures or anything. Meanwhile it just more interaction with more people.

 

[mmmears]

In Italy, they are also undergoing medical rationing. Reports state that if you are over 80, you are not being put in a vent if you need one. The likelihood of survival is low and there are so many others in need. The next step is to eliminate medically fragile young people. So, as was discussed last night, 20 year olds may not get vents if the likelihood of their survival is low and demand for the machines are high with respect to otherwise healthy patients.


These are the tough choices I talked about last month, the ones I suggested the arrogant and ignorant attitude came from not having ever had to make. This is the exact reason we all need to do out part to flatten the curve. I don’t want Nanna’s death on my conscience over a cruise. Neither does DCL, apparently.

Thank you. I don't want Nana to die because of me. And I don't want someone else's loved one to die, because of me. It's amazing that something that seems so simple and obvious to me cannot be understood by others. Please do what you can to protect everyone out there, from the person you know who is going through chemo right now, to the elderly, and to those with underlying conditions. These are people and they matter, even if you don't know and love them.

 

[DIS_MIKE]

This is insane at a time when we are asking for social distancing. What a mess. My DD landed home last night from Europe and thankfully wasn't stuck in a mess like this. She was off the plane and though customs (we have GOES) and through the screening in about 10 mins. They did ask questions, but didn't check temperatures or anything. Meanwhile it just more interaction with more people.

It really makes no sense at all does it? That is the very opposite of social distancing. I'm glad to hear your DD got home safe and sound without too much delay. Is GOES similiar to Global Entry? I wonder if all those people (sardines) have even had their temperatures taken yet. Given their close proximity, I would hope so but .....

 

[wombat_5606]

Has anyone seen this? I sent it to my daughter since my granddaughter is home from school for 3 weeks.

https://www.drstevesilvestro.com/no...I6-BnTv1K14Nd9Ml79p1SLEqqjn9D0g3Nhh1HeBcFaOQY

 

[mmmears]

It really makes no sense at all does it? That is the very opposite of social distancing. I'm glad to hear your DD got home safe and sound without too much delay. Is GOES similiar to Global Entry? I wonder if all those people (sardines) have even had their temperatures taken yet. Given their close proximity, I would hope so but .....

Yes, it's Global Entry. That, and the fact that she was in Row 1 of the huge plane really worked in her favor last night. We used a bunch of miles to get her home, but honestly she was worried about all the flights and her ending up spreading this thing and making it worse, but in the end she was pretty much told she needed to come home by her program.

ETA - this was at SFO and she says if she didn't have GOES it would have taken 2 hours at minimum.

 

[randumb0]

Looks like the cancellation rebooking window was extended to 15 months. I just received an email with this.

As a reminder, we are offering temporary adjustments to our cancellation policy to provide more flexibility for our guests. All Guests scheduled to depart on the Disney Magic between April 13 and May 8, 2020, and the Disney Dream, Disney Fantasy and Disney Wonder between April 13 and May 31, 2020, can change their reservation up until the day before embarkation and receive a 100% cruise credit to be used for a future sailing within 15 months of their original sail date

 

[DIS_MIKE]

DCL just emailed me regarding my cruise in May. Nothing substantial at this point that we didn’t already know. The cruise is still a go and I have the option to rebook 15 months out with a 100% credit. They said to take the proper precautions to ensure you are in good health, etc. etc.

 

[Naeher]

@DIS_MIKE no mention when they’ll make a decision for Alaska / Hawaii / Europe?
Really hoping they give the next cancellations more than 24 hours notice.

 

[DIS_MIKE]

@DIS_MIKE no mention when they’ll make a decision for Alaska / Hawaii / Europe?
Really hoping they give the next cancellations more than 24 hours notice.

AFAIK that has not been addressed yet. I think I read where other DISers said at least the Hawaii cruises disappeared from the website. Nothing in my email regarding Europe & AK but we should hear something soon. I’m on the last sailing on the Magic before it goes to Europe.

 

[spacecanada]

On the topic of ventilators - do any of the ships have them onboard?

Yes, on all four ships. I have a medical condition that could require a vent in an emergency, so I have called and confirmed this before every cruise. I don’t know how many though... as they would want to send you to a proper hospital ASAP if you were in that poor of a condition.

 

[mousefan73]

nevermind got my answer

 

[jlbf06]

Yes, on all four ships. I have a medical condition that could require a vent in an emergency, so I have called and confirmed this before every cruise. I don’t know how many though... as they would want to send you to a proper hospital ASAP if you were in that poor of a condition.

Thank you - I’ve been wondering. I’m currently booked on the ebta but highly unlikely to be sailing. I wondered how they would manage should someone need care whilst onboard as there are six consecutive sea days.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

At least one Seattle hospital is already hitting overcapacity. So we are talking a major metro provider right there.

 

[vegs1]

It has already been implemented in my area and we only have 4 confirmed cases, but they know there will be more because of the reports of the epidemiologists.

I am not disputing that it will likely happen in most places, just that your post said in Canada elective surgery had been cancelled and this is not the case in a vast majority of hospitals at the present time.

Not trying to be difficult so my apologies if it seemed so, just trying to keep information true to what’s happening at the time. I guess where you live that has started but not here or in the cities my friends live in.

Edited to say that the Ontario Medical Association has just requested Hospital’s put all elective surgery on hold so I guess now it’s correct for Ontario anyway!

 

[wombat_5606]

I am not disputing that it will likely happen in most places, just that your post said in Canada elective surgery had been cancelled and this is not the case in a vast majority of hospitals at the present time.

Not trying to be difficult so my apologies if it seemed so, just trying to keep information true to what’s happening at the time. I guess where you live that has started but not here or in the cities my friends live in.

Edited to say that the Ontario Medical Association has just requested Hospital’s put all elective surgery on hold so I guess now it’s correct for Ontario anyway!

I'm sorry you misunderstood me. I only said it had happened in my area.

Edited: to respond to your edit- Well, there you go.

 

[xavier2001]

In Ohio they just shut down all restaurant eat in and bars. It’s getting real!

 

[vegs1]

I'm sorry you misunderstood me. I only said it had happened in my area.

Edited: to respond to your edit- Well, there you go.

It’s going to be an interesting few months. That’s what I know for sure!

 

[accio]

In Ohio they just shut down all restaurant eat in and bars. It’s getting real!

Illinois too.

Bars in California are closing soon, waiting on the Governor's call about the restaurants.