Cirque de Soleil La Nouba to end?

[dlavender]

You mean like a Comedy Club? Or a Cabaret Bar?

Yeah, which I guess they are putting in with the Edison?

And stick in a magic show (don't judge) and I'll be there.

 

[Madonna3]

Yeah, which I guess they are putting in with the Edison?

And stick in a magic show (don't judge) and I'll be there.

First of all, LOL to your gif

Second of all, you realize I am referencing the old "Pleasure Island" offerings, right?

 

[dlavender]

First of all, LOL to your gif

Second of all, you realize I am referencing the old "Pleasure Island" offerings, right?

G.O.B is the greatest magician of all time....

I didn't realize it until you spelled it out for me

Yes. I guess its the new trend, replace entertainment with shopping. We just have very little interest in another outside shopping mall with restaurants.

When we returned from our trip last year, we both commented on how DS was just Opry Mills now (a large shopping center here in Nashville).

Perhaps Edison will be a success and Disney will look to replicate it throughout the Springs.

 

[marcyleecorgan]

Huh. Well there's one thing I don't have to feel like I'm budgeting out of my vacation. I saw the ticket prices, I almost threw up in my mouth a little... especially after spending all that on-Disney-property money. We didn't have time to go to Disney Springs much last time, we had a dining plan to eat our way through!

 

[Madonna3]

G.O.B is the greatest magician of all time....

I didn't realize it until you spelled it out for me

Yes. I guess its the new trend, replace entertainment with shopping. We just have very little interest in another outside shopping mall with restaurants.

When we returned from our trip last year, we both commented on how DS was just Opry Mills now (a large shopping center here in Nashville).

Perhaps Edison will be a success and Disney will look to replicate it throughout the Springs.

Well that's the thing, if they're doing a comedy club/cabaret bar in the Edison they had that at Pleasure Island and removed them, so it almost seems as if they're going back. I would spend way more time at Disney Springs if a. all the stores stayed open until like 2am and b. if there is somewhere I can go to enjoy a drink/snack without BLARING music.

 

[dlavender]

if there is somewhere I can go to enjoy a drink/snack without BLARING music.

You mean, you don't enjoy yelling at the top of your lungs at your spouse while eating and then him yelling back, Huh?

 

[Madonna3]

You mean, you don't enjoy yelling at the top of your lungs at your spouse while eating and then him yelling back, Huh?

No because right as I am yelling back at him the music stops and everyone hears about how much I liked that thing he did to me earlier...

 

[Josh Hendy]

When we returned from our trip last year, we both commented on how DS was just Opry Mills now (a large shopping center here in Nashville).

This is the thing about Disney's financial analysis, if you could call it that.

They're probably looking at the profitability of shopping/dining venues in vacation magnets like Vegas and NYC and saying, "Yeah me too."

But they willfully ignore the vast entertainment options that are the real drawing factor for those places (as for WDW itself). Entertainment is expensive and risky (Rivers of Light) and after a decade or two people become jaded with stale attractions and shows ... so that constant reinvestment is required.

The people in the corporation who speak up for enhanced entertainment are no doubt dismissed as reckless daydreamers. Their spreadsheets only show high capital outlays, high operating expenses and risk. But the retail weenies have spreadsheets that show X million visitors per year spending $Y per visit to Disney Springs (extrapolating from Las Vegas numbers) without having to bother with all those boring, intangible and subjective questions like, whether there are actually enough mall- and restaurant-deprived customers who will be impressed with the overall package.

 

[Madonna3]

whether there are actually enough mall- and restaurant-deprived customers who will be impressed with the overall package.

The food venues were 100% needed to the Downtown Disney operation. They've brought quite an array of establishments as well, which pleasantly surprised me. However, they brought NO unique shopping experiences. All of the stores I can visit at home at any outlet mall. What they did was take away UNIQUE entertainment experiences. Sure, Cirque was there, and was unique, but I couldn't causally go in there, order a drink/snack, watch a bit of the show, and then head to the next venue, like I could with Pleasure Island...

 

[Geoff_M]

It sounds like I'm in the minority but I will be sad when Cirque leaves. We see the show on every visit and from time to time we watch the DVD at home. When we were there last year we had front row seats which made for an amazing evening. But as a businessman myself I can see why they would leave. The theater last year was about 2/3 full and the show is essentially unchanged over the course of its life, so playing to full (and profitable) crowds has probably run its course.

We "love" the show too, but I'd disagree that it's "essentially unchanged" over time. While the story line and score (my favorite from Cirque, second is Quidam), the show has seen a lot of changes. Three of the nine acts currently in the show were not part of the original concept. One act has been replaced twice: German Wheels ---> Jump Rope ---> Break Dancing. On top of that, the original pair of clown retired in 2013, and the current pair (with their own routines) was moved over from Cirque's Alegria.

There's also often issues when a performer that originates a role, and personally stylizes it, leaves and someone else comes in and then tries to recreate someone else's style. Often times to repeat viewers, something seems "missing". As much as I enjoy La Nouba, I noticed this issue the last time with the Green Bird and the lead of the Les Cons. Each time a new performer takes over, it usually seems more noticeable. Sad to say, but I think the same is happening with the Nemo show at AK.

 

[ElyseInWonderland]

I've loved Cirque every time I've seen it, but I agree that it may have run its course.

Rotating in different Disney Broadway shows would be a great idea-- getting the maximum mileage out of those productions once they leave NYC. I could see where they could also use it as additional space for the many cheerleading/show choir competitions that come through each year.

 

[FastPasser]

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[Guyton dis lover]

It was OK saw it last year at Christmas time.

 

[circus4u]

The "Walt Disney Theater" located in Orlando does just that and what you're proposing would compete with it. As is common with places of that type, people are not breaking down the doors.

It might compete with the locals attendance, but what about those of us that fly in for WDW and don't have cars or don't want to drive around in an unfamiliar area looking for the theater. Actually, I never knew they had a theater there until I just read your posting. I suspect the shows may do better in Disney Springs than wherever the theater is located.

 

[writerguyfl]

I saw the ticket prices, I almost threw up in my mouth a little... especially after spending all that on-Disney-property money.

I guess everyone views money/value differently. But, decent non-discounted La Nouba tickets are $82.50. The show has a cast of over 65 artists and has a live band. When compared to similar Cirque du Soleil or touring Broadway productions, that price is low.

We "love" the show too, but I'd disagree that it's "essentially unchanged" over time. While the story line and score (my favorite from Cirque, second is Quidam), the show has seen a lot of changes.

I'm glad you wrote this, as I was going to write the same thing. Personally, I'd say that all of Cirque's storylines are more complicated than most people realize. It's easy to miss when you're wowed by the spectacle, but there are many character interactions happening throughout the show. And, each show has various motifs that usually get missed unless you've seen the show multiple times. For example, La Nouba has a ton of computer-related imagery (1s, 0s, @, #).

 

[FastPasser]

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[ElyseInWonderland]

It might compete with the locals attendance, but what about those of us that fly in for WDW and don't have cars or don't want to drive around in an unfamiliar area looking for the theater. Actually, I never knew they had a theater there until I just read your posting. I suspect the shows may do better in Disney Springs than wherever the theater is located.

Agreed, I've never heard of it until now!

 

[Accident]

Cirque does have a new avatar themed show, I can see that moving in for awhile in 2018.

I wouldn't mind a spot where traveling shows could setup and keep the entertainment rotating. I was wondering if they might have been prepping for this how they changed around the ground near the theater. (that might have been more for the drones though).

 

[rteetz]

Cirque does have a new avatar themed show, I can see that moving in for awhile in 2018.

I wouldn't mind a spot where traveling shows could setup and keep the entertainment rotating. I was wondering if they might have been prepping for this how they changed around the ground near the theater. (that might have been more for the drones though).

Toruk the Avatar show is moving overseas I believe.

 

[rlbates13]

We "love" the show too, but I'd disagree that it's "essentially unchanged" over time. While the story line and score (my favorite from Cirque, second is Quidam), the show has seen a lot of changes. Three of the nine acts currently in the show were not part of the original concept. One act has been replaced twice: German Wheels ---> Jump Rope ---> Break Dancing. On top of that, the original pair of clown retired in 2013, and the current pair (with their own routines) was moved over from Cirque's Alegria.

There's also often issues when a performer that originates a role, and personally stylizes it, leaves and someone else comes in and then tries to recreate someone else's style. Often times to repeat viewers, something seems "missing". As much as I enjoy La Nouba, I noticed this issue the last time with the Green Bird and the lead of the Les Cons. Each time a new performer takes over, it usually seems more noticeable. Sad to say, but I think the same is happening with the Nemo show at AK.

I stand corrected. I guess I was taking a large, broad view of the show....same theater, same music, same general concept. But the changes you mentioned have been noticed by us as well. And often, and I believe certainly the case here, the energy of the show is changed when performers/acts change. Sometimes for the better. Sometimes not. And while we had a great experience last year at the show, "something" was different (and not in a good way) than in our previous visits.

I'm a musician and I can only imagine how difficult it must be to play the same exact set, day after day, year after year, without losing passion and enthusiasm. The same thought process would apply to all performers.

All in all, it'll be sad to see it go, but I understand it. But...I wish (dare I say hope) Team Disney would recognize the value in unique entertainment options and not just choose to be a shopping and dining destination that could just as easily be in any other city. Unique Entertainment...is what sets Disney apart...or at least it used to.