Cinematic Celebration and Hogwarts light show

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For those of you who have visited recently and seen these shows, I would like to know:

1. How long before showtime did you get to the viewing area for Cinematic Celebration and what was the crowd like? Trying to decide when to plan to get there.
2. How long after sunset did the Hogwarts light show start? We will be going when sunset is at 6 and the park closes at 7 (one night at 6!).

Thanks!