Christmas Week questions

ShaggyB

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So Ive got a few Christmas Week questions and im not sure if this is the right place on the board to ask them (feel free to move this if needed).

I understand the Magic Kingdom Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party doesnt occur during the week of Christmas but that the parks stay open late many nights. Do they still do the castle lighting? My wife and I dont care if the stage show is still running but we would like to see the castle covered in "ice".

Ive recently found that the Dancing lights at Hollywood Studios will be happening this year and it says starts at dusk. Is there a more formal time during week of Christmas / about what time does Disney consider Dusk to be in Orlando?

What are the park crowds like on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day? I imagine Magic Kingdom is the place to be on either (aka crowded), but what does Animal Kingdom, Epcot and Hollywood Studios look like crowd-wise on those days?

And lastly, Holidays at the resorts.... what are the must see resorts. IE best decorated resorts to visit during the Christmas Week?
 
Castle lighting is EVERY night during holiday dates. It's not a party event.

Osborne Lights at DHS start every night about 6pm.
But, they don't need to be viewed at that particular time.
Any time during the evening is just fine.

Grand Floridian, Wilderness Lodge are tops!
Boardwalk, Beach Club, Animal Kingdom Lodge are very nice.
 
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Thanks.

Any info on crowds during the week at the non Magic Kingdom parks?
 
Every park will be very, very busy although not necessarily at full capacity. I suggest you check out crowd calendars at Easywdw to give you a place to start.
 

No problem , you posted to right Board. I have spent Christmas week at WDW two times.I really had a great time both times.It was very crowded both times but very one seemed in great mood so use FP and get your ADR's asap.
 
Any info on crowds during the week at the non Magic Kingdom parks?

Highly recommend staying far far far away from MK on Christmas Eve and Christmas. It took us nearly an hour to get from AKL to EPCOT on Christmas morning due to the parking problems at MK.

EPCOT would be good for Christmas Eve but maybe heading to Animal Kingdom or EPCOT (early early early early!) wouldn't be too killer on Christmas morning.

They were diverting people to Hollywood Studios last year starting at around... 9am? MK was at capacity.
 
Highly recommend staying far far far away from MK on Christmas Eve and Christmas. It took us nearly an hour to get from AKL to EPCOT on Christmas morning due to the parking problems at MK.

EPCOT would be good for Christmas Eve but maybe heading to Animal Kingdom or EPCOT (early early early early!) wouldn't be too killer on Christmas morning.

They were diverting people to Hollywood Studios last year starting at around... 9am? MK was at capacity.
We usually do the Candlelight Processional on Christmas Eve since it starts getting crowded and head to AK on Christmas Day. This year, we will be having dinner at California Grill for Christmas. I would suggest staying away from the MK on Christmas Day and maybe doing the parks in the morning and having a nice dinner at a resort later that evening or maybe do the Candlelight Processional if you can get reservations for the dinner package. You want to start doing shows then since it will be very crowded. HS isn't too bad on Christmas as you can then look at the Osborne Lights after dinner.
 
EPCOT was insane on Christmas Night (we did AK during the day and had an EPCOT ADR for dinner)

But, everyone wore themselves out waiting for Illuminations, so the evening EMH was better than most EPCOT EMH.

FYI, with it getting dark early, and extended hours at AK, you get a rare opportunity to experience WDW's best night time attraction, EE.
 
Highly recommend staying far far far away from MK on Christmas Eve and Christmas. It took us nearly an hour to get from AKL to EPCOT on Christmas morning due to the parking problems at MK.

EPCOT would be good for Christmas Eve but maybe heading to Animal Kingdom or EPCOT (early early early early!) wouldn't be too killer on Christmas morning.

They were diverting people to Hollywood Studios last year starting at around... 9am? MK was at capacity.
I'd forget about driving to MK if you are arriving after rope drop. The TTC lot closes to capacity, and then World Drive gets backed up to EPCOT.
 
We personally didn't drive - we took Mouse Bus Transportation from our hotel to EPCOT. But I'd recommend skipping driving anywhere near that area.
 
Hey there..

My family is going on our sixth Christmas vacation in seven years, so I'd like to believe I have some experience.

I have a blog and a free e-book at survivedisxmas.com, but here's some other tips. I'm probably going to write a lot, so I'll try and highlight the main points...

Are you staying on-site of off-site? We stay on-site. Off site isn't bad, but you put yourself at a big disadvantage for Christmas. During September or October, or March, staying off-site is fine. But when you stay off-site during Christmas, you have to really plan. By the time you book your FP+, a lot of the good times and attractions are gone (on-site books 60 days out). This means you're waiting standby for most lines. You'll need to get to the parks early due to phased closures and to have the opportunity to go on a lot of the big rides at a reduced wait time.

First things first - as a previous poster said, get your ADRs now. Stop what you're going. Don't x-out.. minus out the window and come back - just secure your ADRs. Even if you can't get the restaurant you want, get an ADR and don't play it by chance. Do know that at the 45-day mark, the final deposit is due and (unfortunately) many people cancel their trips. The ADRs will usually open up then and you may be able to snag the restaurant and time you want. But don't chance not having one...

Assuming you're staying on-site though...

Where to go for Christmas Day
We do Magic Kingdom every Christmas.
We arrive on Christmas Eve day and pretty much relax all day and go to bed early. We wake up very early Christmas morning, get dressed and head to the park for the last half hour of the EMH. We usually head straight to Space Mountain, which has around a 20-minute wait. By the time we finish on there, the park is open to the public and the crowds file in. Now - I've always been surprised that the park doesn't get overly crowded until 10am-11am. Once it hits that time, the park gets noticeably crowded. Try and fit in as many rides as possible and schedule your FP+ for 11am on. Last year, we rode Space Mountain, the Jingle Cruise, Small World and ate breakfast before 11am. At 11am, the line for Small World was so long that it extended to the Haunted Mansion. Our FP+ included Thunder Mountain, Haunted Mansion and Buzz Lightyear. We always do Haunted Mansion and Buzz Lightyear, as my mom doesn't do big rides and this is a great opportunity to go on rides together. So we had Thunder Mountain at 10:30am. After riding Small World, we went over there. Our next FP+, Buzz Lightyear, was from 12pm to 1pm. We watched the castle show at 12 and then went on Buzz. Our Haunted Mansion FP+ was 1pm-2pm. We went to Haunted Mansion and left the park by 1:30pm. So in a half day at Magic Kingdom, on probably the most crowded day of the year, we did Space Mountain, Jingle Cruise, Small World, breakfast, Buzz Lightyear, Thunder Mountain and the Haunted Mansion. We always leave the parks around 2pm - especially on Christmas - as it gets way too crowded.

I've heard that Animal Kingdom is the least crowded park on Christmas Day - however - I have a theory that Animal Kingdom will surpass Hollywood Studios this year. Hollywood Studios still has three of the top rides at Disney. Yet, so many people are counting Hollywood Studios out because of all the construction and closures. I think Animal Kingdom is going to see a solid uptick in crowds this year due to people skipping Hollywood Studios.

I think it gets dark around 6:30pm, if I remember correctly. We always grab a quick nap or relax by the pool in the afternoon before showering and heading out. Our dinner reservations are normally around 7 or 8 pm, and it's almost always dark around then.

The lights run pretty much all night. It cycles through - they'll stand stationary, and then a loop of Christmas songs will play and they'll dance. The Osborne lights are going to be PACKED this year. It's their final year and people will flock to the parks to see them. I know I said Hollywood Studios may take a hit in crowds, but you're gonna see the park really fill up at night. Don't be surprised if CMs open up some backstage areas around Streets of America due to the crowds. While on the topic - get pictures. We got a ton of pictures in front of the Sorcerer's hat last year, knowing that it was the final year. I'm actually getting my good camera repaired in anticipation of this trip (among other things.) Really enjoy the lights and find the hidden Mickey's and decorations. It's easy to walk though, say "wow" and walk out... really have fun with it.

All of the resorts have great decorations, but I'd say the Signatures have the best holiday decorations. The resorts are a nice break from the parks. Hop on the monorail and take the loop around each of the resorts. The Contemporary has a big gingerbread display on the 4th floor. The Poly doesn't have a gingerbread display, but it does have a gorgeous tree and after all the renovations, is definitely worth touring. End with the Grand Floridian, which features a multi-story tree and life-size gingerbread house. Another favorite is both the Wilderness Lodge and Fort Wilderness. The Wilderness Lodge has a huge fireplace and a themed tree. It really feels like you just stepped foot inside a ski resort - only you get to go outside to warm weather (let's hope.) Fort Wilderness and the campgrounds is also awesome. Many people decorate their campsites - some more elaborate than the others. The resort offers a horse drawn carriage ride around the property to see all the lights and decorations. It's worth the money.

Aside from this, I'd recommend checking out the Yacht and Beach Club and the Boardwalk. The decorations aren't quite as intricate as the Magic Kingdom resorts, but they're pretty awesome.

Make sure to check out Disney Springs. They have a Christmas store there and it's fun to shop for some last minute gifts. The Ghiradelli Store often gives out peppermint bark samples. We always grab a few our first day!

Overall, it'll be crowded. I think it'll actually be more crowded this year due to the free dining until December 21st. In past years, the crowds usually die down after MVMCP (Dec 18th) and pick up again around December 23rd. Many people only stay at Disney for Christmas or NYE. The crowd will die down a bit on December 27th and 28th, but then pick back up again on December 29th through the new year.

NYE will be crowded. Magic Kingdom does a "dress rehearsal show" on December 30th. This is good for two reasons. 1 - if you can't decide what park you wanna go to, you can go to MK on Dec. 30th and another park on NYE. 2 - MK is extremely crowded on NYE, so this is a great opportunity to see the show.

We used to do DHS for NYE, but did EPCOT last year. It's definitely really crowded, but because the park is so big and spread out, it alleviates the crowds. Plus, both MK and EPCOT open backstage areas to make it easier to get around the park. I'd go to MK on Dec. 30th and EPCOT NYE. I really had fun on NYE. This year we have a dinner reservation at Teppan Edo, and then we're claiming our spot in Japan. DHS is good. It's also pretty spaced out. It's better for kids, whereas EPCOT is better for older families. I'm not sure how good of a choice DHS will be with all the construction going on, though.

Overall, remember you're on vacation. You're away for Christmas! Most people have to work December 26th, but you get to wake up, go on rides and hang out with a giant mouse! So many people get frustrated b/c the crowds, but when you really think about it - it's such a first-world problem!

Oh yeah - and don't be a S*cker for the new attractions. EVERYONE is gonna run to 7DMT. If you can't ride it during EMH or get a FP+, don't bother. The line was so long last year that it would have taken up half our day. I will say this - try and secure a FP+ for later in your trip. Let's say you're staying December 24th to January 1st, like my family. Like I said above, most people stay for Christmas OR NYE. You can book your FP+ for 60 days from when you check in, and 13 days thereafter. For me, I plan on getting a FP+ for 7DMT on December 30th. THe later the date and the longer your vacation, the better the chance of getting a solid FP+.
 
Yikes! I'm a little nervous reading about all of the traffic. We have an ADR at 9:50 for Christmas morning at 1900 Park Fare. Will we have problems driving there? We will be coming from POP Century.
 
Yikes! I'm a little nervous reading about all of the traffic. We have an ADR at 9:50 for Christmas morning at 1900 Park Fare. Will we have problems driving there? We will be coming from POP Century.
Driving from Pop Century to the Grand Floridian, I would avoid the World Drive toll booth at all costs and drive the "back way" driving by POR/PORFQ (Bonnet Creek parkway) and past FW (Vista Drive) that would take you past TTC parking and then you can follow guest signs to GF.
Although I'm not sure what you will do with your car if you were planning on going to MK after that breakfast.
 
Driving from Pop Century to the Grand Floridian, I would avoid the World Drive toll booth at all costs and drive the "back way" driving by POR/PORFQ (Bonnet Creek parkway) and past FW (Vista Drive) that would take you past TTC parking and then you can follow guest signs to GF.
Although I'm not sure what you will do with your car if you were planning on going to MK after that breakfast.

Thank you so much for the advice and route information. We are planning to go to EP after our breakfast. Should we plan to take the same way just reversed back out of the GF. Any suggestions for the best route GF to EP that day would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! :thanks:
 
Thank you so much for the advice and route information. We are planning to go to EP after our breakfast. Should we plan to take the same way just reversed back out of the GF. Any suggestions for the best route GF to EP that day would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! :thanks:

If you're staying on-site, I'd recommend taking advantage of Disney transportation. I mean, staying at POP, there's going to be a lot of people competing for the bus and you may miss the first or second bus... but I would take the first bus to Magic Kingdom, then hop on the monorail toward Grand Floridian. After eating at 1900, hop on the monorail to EPCOT.

I remember we had a reservation at Kouzzina once. We left about an hour and it wasn't enough. We made the mistake of going to Downtown Disney and taking a bus from there - we should have gone to EPCOT or Hollywood Studios and walked or taken the boat.

Going from Pop to Magic Kingdom should take around 15 minutes. Let's say you miss the first bus or two - that's another 20-30 mins. Then you need to hop on the monorail once you get there. Let's add another half hour there, just for good measure. If you leave around 1.5 hours before your reservation, you can take Disney transportation.

By the time you get to EPCOT it'll be at least noon. Do you really wanna try and find a spot and/or be turned away due to phased closures? Don't chance it - not on Christmas.
 
Thank you so much for the advice and route information. We are planning to go to EP after our breakfast. Should we plan to take the same way just reversed back out of the GF. Any suggestions for the best route GF to EP that day would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! :thanks:
It can be gridlock around the EPCOT entrance, and it doesn't really matter how you go.
Most guests that were turned away from TTC go to EPCOT. EPCOT has enough parking, but it takes a while to get everyone through the booths.
I happened to take this Google Maps screenshot on Christmas Day 2014 as my POR to AK bus inexplicably toured the EPCOT entrance gridlock.

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As you can see, it's gridlock from the back way (from the right. It took our bus 40 min driving across this small part of the map) and from world drive (from the left)

Personally, I'd take a bus to MK then boat or monorail to GF it takes longer in the AM, but it should be much faster taking the Monorail to EPCOT.

If you are fine with the drive from GF to EPCOT taking an hour or so, then it's OK to drive.
 
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If you're staying on-site, I'd recommend taking advantage of Disney transportation. I mean, staying at POP, there's going to be a lot of people competing for the bus and you may miss the first or second bus... but I would take the first bus to Magic Kingdom, then hop on the monorail toward Grand Floridian. After eating at 1900, hop on the monorail to EPCOT.

I remember we had a reservation at Kouzzina once. We left about an hour and it wasn't enough. We made the mistake of going to Downtown Disney and taking a bus from there - we should have gone to EPCOT or Hollywood Studios and walked or taken the boat.

Going from Pop to Magic Kingdom should take around 15 minutes. Let's say you miss the first bus or two - that's another 20-30 mins. Then you need to hop on the monorail once you get there. Let's add another half hour there, just for good measure. If you leave around 1.5 hours before your reservation, you can take Disney transportation.

By the time you get to EPCOT it'll be at least noon. Do you really wanna try and find a spot and/or be turned away due to phased closures? Don't chance it - not on Christmas.

It can be gridlock around the EPCOT entrance, and it doesn't really matter how you go.
Most guests that were turned away from TTC go to EPCOT. EPCOT has enough parking, but it takes a while to get everyone through the booths.
I happened to take this Google Maps screenshot on Christmas Day 2014 as my POR to AK bus inexplicably toured the EPCOT entrance gridlock.

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As you can see, it's gridlock from the back way (from the right. It took our bus 40 min driving across this small part of the map) and from world drive (from the left)

Personally, I'd take a bus to MK then boat or monorail to GF it takes longer in the AM, but it should be much faster taking the Monorail to EPCOT.

If you are fine with the drive from GF to EPCOT taking an hour or so, then it's OK to drive.

Thanks so much for the info. I really appreciate the time you have both taken to show examples and offer suggestions.

I will share everything with my group to discuss. It looks like we may need to use Disney transportation that day. It's funny how we keep going back and forth on the buses vs. driving. Such a dilemma especially because we have a family member with some special considerations for stamina and mobility. I wonder if we would be better off driving and parking at EP earlier that morning and then taking the monorail over to the TTC and on to the GF. Then we could just take the monorail back to EP.
 
That's a decent idea, parking first at EPCOT would get you a better parking spot and would help avoid some extra craziness.

FWIW, it won't stop you, but during a phased TTC closure, CM's check guests on before getting on the monorail at EPCOT to make sure they are on-site or have an ADR...
 
That's a decent idea, parking first at EPCOT would get you a better parking spot and would help avoid some extra craziness.

FWIW, it won't stop you, but during a phased TTC closure, CM's check guests on before getting on the monorail at EPCOT to make sure they are on-site or have an ADR...

Thanks! That's good to know! Thanks again for all of your help! :)
 
That's a decent idea, parking first at EPCOT would get you a better parking spot and would help avoid some extra craziness.

FWIW, it won't stop you, but during a phased TTC closure, CM's check guests on before getting on the monorail at EPCOT to make sure they are on-site or have an ADR...

That is a very good idea, actually.

OP - I know you mentioned a family member with stamina/mobility problems - is that the reason you want to drive? I had a broken foot one year for Christmas and had an ECV. As a 21 year old at the time, I was embarrassed wheeling around the ECV, but I have to be honest, the DIsney buses did an awesome job of accommodating my family and getting on/off the bus was seamless. You may have to skip a bus due to the amount of wheelchairs going on (they fit around 2) but your family is guaranteed a spot on the bus and they'll load your family member first. The myth about getting to the front of the line is false - but having the wheelchair or ECV can and will help you with the disney transportation.
 


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