Childfree (by choice) Disney Lovers!

[mskayjay]

Oh is she on vacation Alesia????? Till when? Dangit....that means she won't be there while we are there and I was soooo hoping that would work out!

Is anyone else going to be there from November 5-12th? We'll be at WL if anyone wants to meet for drinks!

 

[franandaj]

Makes you wonder doesn't it?
Those of us w/no practical experience raising children can figure it out but yet their parents don't get it.

I always said that you should have to apply to have children, I mean you have to have a license to drive, to hunt....why can just anyone raise children?

 

[zima-cheryl]

I always said that you should have to apply to have children, I mean you have to have a license to drive, to hunt....why can just anyone raise children?

Ahhh... that is the rub. Not 'just anyone' can raise children but 'just anyone' can breed.

The real kicker is, at least amongst my family & friends, it seems like those most suited & most desiring to be parents (and who would be wonderful at raising kids) are the ones unable to concieve.

 

[franandaj]

Ahhh... that is the rub. Not 'just anyone' can raise children but 'just anyone' can breed.

The real kicker is, at least amongst my family & friends, it seems like those most suited & most desiring to be parents (and who would be wonderful at raising kids) are the ones unable to concieve.

I do have a friend who is due in early December, and she and her husband will be wonderful parents. I'm just going to miss all the "adult" (and I mean that in the most Disney way ) things we do with them like F&W and gourmet dinners. I suppose at some point they'll get a sitter and start going out again.

Hey! I noticed your ticker...I'm going to be making one soon for about the same time period...when are you going to be there?

 

[zima-cheryl]

I do have a friend who is due in early December, and she and her husband will be wonderful parents. I'm just going to miss all the "adult" (and I mean that in the most Disney way ) things we do with them like F&W and gourmet dinners. I suppose at some point they'll get a sitter and start going out again.

Hey! I noticed your ticker...I'm going to be making one soon for about the same time period...when are you going to be there?

Tentatively mid-October. Planning for the 15th as of now, but if any good deals come down the pike that could change. Really until the in-laws buy their plane tix we can change dates to grab any deals. I know a lot of people dislike it, but I'm hoping we can snag free dining.

 

[neech]

I always said that you should have to apply to have children, I mean you have to have a license to drive, to hunt....why can just anyone raise children?

OMG...that's so funny and so true

 

[maddhatir]

Okay where is Mad????? It is not like her to be absent and not busting my butt every time I post. I see she hasn't been on in a few. Is she away or something?

Madddddddd...........come out and play!

MWWWAHAHHAHAHAAAAA!!!! You rang!!!??

Just got back last night- so much to write. In a nut shell- had a wonderful, quiet relaxing awesome trip! Stayed at the BW Villas w/ BW view! Planning our next trip for 2012. I don't have time to give a full report (nor do I remember a lot due to deteriorating brain cells ) but I will try and give you some highlights in the next few days

Glad to hear you are going on a trip!

Ah, because you misunderstand the reasoning. The parent says they are doing it for the child, but they are really doing it for themselves.

Same with the nice places, bars, etc. The parents don't want to be deprived of such experiences just because they have children, so they make others deal with their children. I honestly don't even mind that so much if the children are well-behaved and/or asleep (the very wee ones). However, I find a lot of parents seem to "tune out" the really irritating behaviors, like constant noise and/or running around, and make others deal with it too.

A few child stories. For the most part- I did not even give the kids a 2nd thought- they were there but pretty much void to me. Some were even cute to watch. OMG- we saw this infant puke down the front of her mother on the bus ride home (just formula- but lots of it) the father started screaming GET OFF THE BUS GET OFF THE BUS!! Dude, it's just baby puke- settle down! He was actually mad!

One night at Citricos this little girl kept randomly screaming at the top of her lungs, you know the scream that sends chills up your spine? Yes, and the father just thought it was oooohhhhh so funny! Thank god they were almost done their dinner!

Another night at the Flying Fish I saw a family with a small child being seated, not long after I heard a scream and then non stop crying. The parents picked up the child and walked right out of the restaurant. Kudos for them! And a sigh of relief for everyone in the restaurant.

And yesterday I was in line at the BW to do our airline check in. Cast of characters, Grandmother holding onto the stroller with a crying, whining Jackson in it. Mom was also in line. I am in line trying to check in and grandmom has the stroller butt up again my damn leg (back off lady) and Jackson is screaming while I am trying to listen to the CM. Jackson decides to roll out of the stroller and onto the ground screaming and kicking my leg! OK- get the frick off of my leg kid. Mom or grandmom do not take the kid out of line, nor move him away from me, so, *I* stood there like a damn flamingo with one leg UP so the kid can have my ground space to roll around and whine "help me mom, help me" or maybe I gave him my ground space so I didn't kick him a shot. Actually- let's make that grandmom or mom that needed the kick.

Welcome! You'll find we are an eclectic bunch... mostly harmless to ourselves & others.

I prefer WEIRDOOOOOOOO!!!!

I don't get carrying a lot of stuff at all?!?
Most days we travel w/just what fits in DH's cargo pant/short pockets & the camera around my neck. If we absolutely need a little umbrella or something I'll wear a fanny pack, but that is it.


I don't even buy souvineers (sp?) the last few days. If I'm past the point of being able to have it delivered back to our resort or at least the front of the park for pickup on the way out, I rarely buy anything. I hate carrying anything around.

I wear a small Fossil shoulder bag- whatever does not fit- ya don't need it! A few nights I just used my Dooney and Bourke wristlet. But even though it was small, the shoulder bag was easier b/c my hands were free.

I send my purchases back to the hotel too. I love being "hands free" Too much stuff= too much drama!

A BIG WELCOME to anyone I have not met yet!! So much fun having more people around

Tammy- FREE tix for Black Label!!? I want my money back

 

[BeadyLady]

Wow, you show more restraint than I would have while standing in line.

 

[maddhatir]

Wow, you show more restraint than I would have while standing in line.

Why? You would not wish to stand like a Flamingo?? I find it rather refreshing.

One night on the crowded monorail I was sitting down. This little boy about 8 was standing in front of me, facing me and was holding onto the 2 bars with his arms outstretched. He kept lurching at me coming back and forth. ( I am PMSL reading the word lurching, but that is what he was doing!) I finally said- "ew- GET away from me" DH was pissing himself. The kid was right in my face and he kept coming at me. Oh, once again, the parents could have cared less

 

[mskayjay]

MADDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!! So good to see you and so bummed we missed each other! We need to try to schedule '12 at the same time. We're doing WL again and I think our next trip will be somewhere different. In the thread I talk about below, folks mentioned some good alternatives and we may take the time to check out places like OKW while there this time. BW and BC were filled when I booked. We just decided to go on 10/17! lol

I have managed to have yet another thread closed by a Mod. I really think this woman has it out for me and/or hates the topic of adults at DisneyWorld. I sent a PM to one of the Webmasters because I really don't think this thread should have been closed. Discussion, lively discussion, should be allowed and nothing I saw here was out of line. It got a little feisty the last two pages only.

If our Mod on this forum reads this, could you please take a look and direct me to whomever I should be asking about this please! Thanks! Makes me really sad and mad. Its obvious there is interest in the topic so why keep shutting it down just because everyone is not on the same side of the opinion fence?

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2579649

 

[maddhatir]

Karen- I didn't see a problem, but they probably know what those kinds of threads turn into.

Believe it or not- I posted the same child stories on Facebook that I posted here and my friend (of 40 years- who is NOT a Disney person) said, "then why go to Disney!?" HERE WE GO! I told her to just be quiet LOL- don't you wish you can do that here? She asked my why I was being "fresh" She actually used the word fresh.

Like most of us have said- it is more the parent's fault than their kids. I cannot imagine having a child and letting them run screaming and yelling up and down the halls in the morning, but then again, the parents that let their children do that are the parents that would talk loudly in the morning themselves. I think they were raised by wolves and have no consideration for others- so their pups are turning out the same

I can tell you I am a very light sleeper- I need a sound machine every night just to sleep. I brought it with me to the BWV and I did not hear a single noise. Whether it was in the hallway OR on the boardwalk and we had a BW view! Actually our room was RIGHT in front of the games and on top of the Big River Brewery! I read about people hearing the late night stragglers from Jellyrolls out on the boardwalk at 2am, nope. Not us. DH and I woke up between 8:30-9:30 every morning with our sound machine running. We were on the 4th fl. (they have 5 floors) and REALLY far from the elevators too.

DH and I took a walk over to the BCV to check it out b/c we were thinking about staying there next.....until we walked into the place! OMG- the lobby was SO loud, kids everywhere! It was like night and day. I said- let's stay put at the BW I think more kids are at the BC b/c of the awesome pool. That's OK- I can live with our ugly clown pool and stinky counter service.

We do not want to think about any other DVC besides the Epcot resorts b/c of the ease of getting to Epcot and DHS. The less time riding a bus- the better for us. It would be fun to try other places- but we have to weigh the good and bad. And busses= bad.

 

[franandaj]

DH and I took a walk over to the BCV to check it out b/c we were thinking about staying there next.....until we walked into the place! OMG- the lobby was SO loud, kids everywhere! It was like night and day.

I'm working on my PTR and just finished talking about wanting to stay at BCV during F&W because of the proximity, I don't think I could deal with screaming kids! We stayed at the BWV last year and I liked the scary clown slide, it was fun, but my DP couldn't handle the fudge shop that we passed every day on our way to Epcot! She said we can't stay there any more!

 

[maddhatir]

I'm working on my PTR and just finished talking about wanting to stay at BCV during F&W because of the proximity, I don't think I could deal with screaming kids! We stayed at the BWV last year and I liked the scary clown slide, it was fun, but my DP couldn't handle the fudge shop that we passed every day on our way to Epcot! She said we can't stay there any more!

Well, let me say- the lobby was loud. Of course the pool was loud. But as I said to DH, I am sure the rest of the resort- rooms etc are not loud. He just doesn't want to take the chance. Me? I would.

We didn't like the fact that the BW had crummy CS breakfast. Sure, you could get a breakfast sandwich- but that was it. We had to walk over to Sunshine Seasons one morning just to get CS for breakfast. I liked the Marketplace options over at the BC.

Who knows, he might change his mind, actually he said "I will stay where you stay" He is very diplomatic

We did not walk into the candy store once on the BW! Now see, *I* can pass the fudge, just not the gift shop!

 

[franandaj]

We didn't like the fact that the BW had crummy CS breakfast. Sure, you could get a breakfast sandwich- but that was it. We had to walk over to Sunshine Seasons one morning just to get CS for breakfast. I liked the Marketplace options over at the BC.

We did not walk into the candy store once on the BW! Now see, *I* can pass the fudge, just not the gift shop!

We always get a 1 BR when we stay in FL so I usually make breakfast in the room. Some mornings that means simply opening a yogurt, or pouring rice krispies in a bowl, but at least twice in the week I make us bacon, eggs, toast and hash browns. I never have the time to do it at home, so it's become a tradition on DVC vacations to cook a civilised breakfast at least twice. It also justifies my purchase of 1/2 a dozen eggs, and a package of bacon!

 

[maddhatir]

We always get a 1 BR when we stay in FL so I usually make breakfast in the room. Some mornings that means simply opening a yogurt, or pouring rice krispies in a bowl, but at least twice in the week I make us bacon, eggs, toast and hash browns. I never have the time to do it at home, so it's become a tradition on DVC vacations to cook a civilised breakfast at least twice. It also justifies my purchase of 1/2 a dozen eggs, and a package of bacon!

I would hope so!

We were on the DP so we were trying to use up our points LOL. I am sure DH would love to wake up to some bacon and eggs! I can use that as a selling point for the 1BR Now I just have to follow though....

We did peek into the 1BR sample at the BWV while we were having lunch at Big River one day. We loved it. I was surprised he got up and looked. We are not owners- we rent points from friends.

I am hoping to rent a 1BR next time. I like the fact if I wake up before DH I can shut the bedroom door and let him sleep while I get ready or just sit out on the balcony without waking him. Oh, and the washer and dryer in the room really turned me on! Is that weird? We can pack one suitcase honey and wash as we go No baggage fees The bathroom was nice and big too!

I am starting to save my pennies! only 720 more days to go

 

[Alesia]

And yesterday I was in line at the BW to do our airline check in. Cast of characters, Grandmother holding onto the stroller with a crying, whining Jackson in it. Mom was also in line. I am in line trying to check in and grandmom has the stroller butt up again my damn leg (back off lady) and Jackson is screaming while I am trying to listen to the CM. Jackson decides to roll out of the stroller and onto the ground screaming and kicking my leg! OK- get the frick off of my leg kid. Mom or grandmom do not take the kid out of line, nor move him away from me, so, *I* stood there like a damn flamingo with one leg UP so the kid can have my ground space to roll around and whine "help me mom, help me" or maybe I gave him my ground space so I didn't kick him a shot. Actually- let's make that grandmom or mom that needed the kick.

I had a little boy kick me at work one day. I got down, right in his face, and said, "If your mother lets you kick her that's her business, but you will not ever kick me again. Do you understand?"

He continued to kick the **** out of his mother every day, but he never kicked me again.

 

[maddhatir]

I had a little boy kick me at work one day. I got down, right in his face, and said, "If your mother lets you kick her that's her business, but you will not ever kick me again. Do you understand?"

He continued to kick the **** out of his mother every day, but he never kicked me again.

You go Alesia! I am sure you have to deal with a lot from the kiddies at your work. It must be hard when you have a good kid at home, but when you go to work- you see so much insanity! Can you imagine what it must be like in their homes?

I said to DH on our last day, "you know what I am looking forward to when I am home" He said "what" I said "not seeing children every day" I work at home so I am alone all day in the peace and quiet. That could also be why it is like overload to me when I am in Disney. I rarely see kids in my daily life.

On the plane home last night there was a little boy and girl (brother and sister) about 5-6 who had me PMSL. DH kept taking off his head phones wondering what I was laughing at. They were asking the silliest questions of the mother and they had me entertained. "Mom, why are the wings out?" Mom "the wings are always out on the plane" "Are we flying?" "No! we are still on the ground" it was non stop but they were serious. The mother's patience was just as funny as the questions.

 

[HockeyKat]

Karen- I didn't see a problem, but they probably know what those kinds of threads turn into.

Believe it or not- I posted the same child stories on Facebook that I posted here and my friend (of 40 years- who is NOT a Disney person) said, "then why go to Disney!?" HERE WE GO! I told her to just be quiet LOL- don't you wish you can do that here? She asked my why I was being "fresh" She actually used the word fresh.

Like most of us have said- it is more the parent's fault than their kids. I cannot imagine having a child and letting them run screaming and yelling up and down the halls in the morning, but then again, the parents that let their children do that are the parents that would talk loudly in the morning themselves. I think they were raised by wolves and have no consideration for others- so their pups are turning out the same

I can tell you I am a very light sleeper- I need a sound machine every night just to sleep. I brought it with me to the BWV and I did not hear a single noise. Whether it was in the hallway OR on the boardwalk and we had a BW view! Actually our room was RIGHT in front of the games and on top of the Big River Brewery! I read about people hearing the late night stragglers from Jellyrolls out on the boardwalk at 2am, nope. Not us. DH and I woke up between 8:30-9:30 every morning with our sound machine running. We were on the 4th fl. (they have 5 floors) and REALLY far from the elevators too.

DH and I took a walk over to the BCV to check it out b/c we were thinking about staying there next.....until we walked into the place! OMG- the lobby was SO loud, kids everywhere! It was like night and day. I said- let's stay put at the BW I think more kids are at the BC b/c of the awesome pool. That's OK- I can live with our ugly clown pool and stinky counter service.

We do not want to think about any other DVC besides the Epcot resorts b/c of the ease of getting to Epcot and DHS. The less time riding a bus- the better for us. It would be fun to try other places- but we have to weigh the good and bad. And busses= bad.

I bring earplugs and a white noise maker to every hotel room I go to. I used to have such trouble sleeping away from home, and now I sleep like a baby (ha!).

I also use them at home, though, due to a hubby that, umm, well, snores like a freight train!


BCV lobby is definitely cacophony, but I found SAB to be fairly peaceful, considering. Granted, we go in total off-season (Sept).

I agree on BWV crummy counter service. We actually drove over to CBR one night at 9:30PM so that we could get a burger!!

As to the kids annoy me, why go to Disney remark? Lately, why go anywhere. Everywhere is so "kid-friendly" (read: let my kids run around screaming and deal) anyway. Raised by wolves, indeed.

I am hoping to rent a 1BR next time. I like the fact if I wake up before DH I can shut the bedroom door and let him sleep while I get ready or just sit out on the balcony without waking him. Oh, and the washer and dryer in the room really turned me on! Is that weird? We can pack one suitcase honey and wash as we go No baggage fees The bathroom was nice and big too!

Be careful. Once you go 1BR, it's tough to go back!!

 

[maddhatir]

As to the kids annoy me, why go to Disney remark? Lately, why go anywhere. Everywhere is so "kid-friendly" (read: let my kids run around screaming and deal) anyway. Raised by wolves, indeed.

Did I miss the "let my kids run around and deal" comment somewhere?!

Be careful. Once you go 1BR, it's tough to go back!!

LOL- first it's the "once you go deluxe"......and now it's the one bedroom Does it ever end!?

 

[franandaj]

Be careful. Once you go 1BR, it's tough to go back!!

LOL- first it's the "once you go deluxe"......and now it's the one bedroom Does it ever end!?

Our first DVC trip was in a 1BR at SSR! A year later when we bought in at the CA DVC, we couldn't afford enough points to stay in 1 BRs or justify a 1 BR when staying only 25 minutes from home. I wasn't sure how I was going to handle a studio, and other than missing my jacuzzi tub dearly, it was OK. Especially having a theme park right outside the balcony!

The tubs at the older Florida properties are much nicer than the VGC, so I don't mind the studios for our "short, close to home" trips, but if I'm flying all the way across the country, I want my nice big tub for soaking! We spend a little more time in the room than the average bear. So the extra room is really nice.

I love the kitchen, but I also take the cooking school at our F&W Festival in CA, and actually LIKE to cook on a vacation (a couple times, and nothing involved). Eating my own food is comforting. I love that part about the 1 BRs, especially since DP is handicapped and it's hard to get her out of bed when she has overdone it the day before. That's usually when the bacon and eggs breakfast kicks in and we slow down the pace and take it easy. If I didn't have a kitchen and the internet, I'd go stir crazy knowing that the parks are out there and we aren't!

I am hoping to rent a 1BR next time. I like the fact if I wake up before DH I can shut the bedroom door and let him sleep while I get ready or just sit out on the balcony without waking him. Oh, and the washer and dryer in the room really turned me on! Is that weird? We can pack one suitcase honey and wash as we go No baggage fees The bathroom was nice and big too!

I am starting to save my pennies! only 720 more days to go

I'm doing the 365 day dance (well 367 to WDW, we're going to Universal for two nights and a day first!

The laundry is great! I'm hoping that we won't have to take four large suitcases in the future, especially since we now have an OL. If we could just bring 2-3 days worth of clothes (I'm not the one with a problem), and we already do laundry several times a week. No biggie, I throw in a load here and there when I'm about to go in the tub or when I get up early and am letting DP sleep. It really does help cut down on the luggage, at least mine!

I work at home so I am alone all day in the peace and quiet. That could also be why it is like overload to me when I am in Disney. I rarely see kids in my daily life.

I totally agree with you. I don't have a traditional "day job" my kids have fur and walk on 4 legs! We do have some kids in the neighborhood, I don't "see" them much, I can hear them sometimes, but they aren't completely annoying like so many of the kids at the parks.