Child swap- available on Soarin'?

[triplefigs]

If so, where do you wait with the other child? My DS is petrified of this ride, but DH and I both want to try it.

Thanks!

 

[Hannathy]

He has to be too short to ride to use baby swap. If he is tall enough to ride you will have to do your own swap by getting fast passes.

 

[triplefigs]

He has to be too short to ride to use baby swap. If he is tall enough to ride you will have to do your own swap by getting fast passes.

Thanks for the info.

 

[beattyfamily]

Another Soarin/baby swap thread:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1453040

 

[mb168]

To answer the question, you wait outside the line. I usually sit in the area where the fastpass machines are.

As for the "must be too small to get on," is that not silly? Say you have a 4 year old that doesn't want to ride but is tall enough to, your choice is to either not ride at all, one parent stand in line then the other, or leave the 4 year old unattended . So you end up not riding these rides....

 

[beattyfamily]

To answer the question, you wait outside the line. I usually sit in the area where the fastpass machines are.

As for the "must be too small to get on," is that not silly? Say you have a 4 year old that doesn't want to ride but is tall enough to, your choice is to either not ride at all, one parent stand in line then the other, or leave the 4 year old unattended . So you end up not riding these rides....

fyi...with baby swap, one parent stands in line and then the other.

There is one more option which works for my family who has a chicken rider. We are a family of 4. We get 4 Fastpasses. DH rides with older DD then I ride with older DD. Works the same as using the baby swap pass.

Life isn't fair. At least they do have options, maybe just not ones you like. Baby swap is meant to shorten parents waits but not eliminate them. I think it's great for those who qualify.

 

[tjmw2727]

To answer the question, you wait outside the line. I usually sit in the area where the fastpass machines are.

As for the "must be too small to get on," is that not silly? Say you have a 4 year old that doesn't want to ride but is tall enough to, your choice is to either not ride at all, one parent stand in line then the other, or leave the 4 year old unattended . So you end up not riding these rides....

I see your point esp with a younger child who can ride but dosen't want to, we run into this with TOT and my youngest dd. However baby swap is designed for families who can't ride together because of a disney imposed restriction. If eveyone who chose not to ride got a swap pass then it would defeat the purpose. Also remember that WDW is one of a very few places that even offer baby swap.

You have alternatives however, you don't have to skip them. What we usually do is use FP instead of babyswap, it works exactly the same way as the baby swap because the swap pass puts you in the FP line anwyay. The other alternative is to all wait the line together and in **Most** cases the CM will let the child and one parent use the chicken exit and wait at the exit. The second parent can then ride via the exit without a double wait. Check with the CM first though as this can vary depending on the CM and the ride.

HTH
TJ

 

[tjmw2727]

If so, where do you wait with the other child? My DS is petrified of this ride, but DH and I both want to try it.

Thanks!

As pp's mentioned you can only use Baby Swap if a child doesn't meet the height restriction.

In your case I would get 4 fp's and ride 2 and 2. First ride 1a/1c while the other adult waits with the other 2 kids and then switch. This is one of the better places for waiting because you have the kidcot upstairs a show and the food court area. When I was with my neice and nephew we had time for one quick ride on figment while the others "Soared".

TJ

 

[mb168]

If eveyone who chose not to ride got a swap pass then it would defeat the purpose.

How do you figure? Its the EXACT same thing as baby swap. I've fortunatly not had this problem because my DD3 wants to ride RNR and TOT but I don't see what the difference is in a four year old that happens to be 40" is any different than an infant. It isn't allowing the 2 parents to "cheat" and one of them get in any quicker, actually the second parent has a longer wait JUST LIKE FP. They have to wait for the original parent to ride AND take care of a child for the full standby time and then go stand in a FP line.

Again, I've not had this situation but I'm sure there are quite a few parents that skip the "cool" rides because they have a child that is tall enough to ride a ride but really shouldn't.

 

[beattyfamily]

How do you figure? Its the EXACT same thing as baby swap. I've fortunatly not had this problem because my DD3 wants to ride RNR and TOT but I don't see what the difference is in a four year old that happens to be 40" is any different than an infant. It isn't allowing the 2 parents to "cheat" and one of them get in any quicker, actually the second parent has a longer wait JUST LIKE FP. They have to wait for the original parent to ride AND take care of a child for the full standby time and then go stand in a FP line.

Again, I've not had this situation but I'm sure there are quite a few parents that skip the "cool" rides because they have a child that is tall enough to ride a ride but really shouldn't.

The first (original) parent who volunteers to wait with the child first does not necessarily have to wait "the full standby time". The parent that is riding first can ride Fastpass or even single rider if they want to. There's no need to ride standby.

Like I said before, we create our own swap with Fastpass since we have a girl who is terrified of ToT. It is the same as grabbing a baby swap pass (the same amount of waiting). One parent rides with Fastpass and then the other rides with Fastpass.

Disney does their best to help guests but they just can't please everyone.

 

[triplefigs]

In your case I would get 4 fp's and ride 2 and 2. First ride 1a/1c while the other adult waits with the other 2 kids and then switch. This is one of the better places for waiting because you have the kidcot upstairs a show and the food court area. When I was with my neice and nephew we had time for one quick ride on figment while the others "Soared".

TJ

This sounds like a great idea. They love the Kidcot areas and completed them all last Sept.

 

[mb168]

The first (original) parent who volunteers to wait with the child first does not necessarily have to wait "the full standby time". The parent that is riding first can ride Fastpass or even single rider if they want to. There's no need to ride standby.

Like I said before, we create our own swap with Fastpass since we have a girl who is terrified of ToT. It is the same as grabbing a baby swap pass (the same amount of waiting). One parent rides with Fastpass and then the other rides with Fastpass.

Disney does their best to help guests but they just can't please everyone.

Does Soarin have a single rider line? There aren't a lot of them in DW.

If using the FP is "the same" as using baby swap, why does Disney offer it then instead of just telling these parents to just use FP? I don't think it is the same. The only similarity is that you use a ticket and get to stand in the FP line. It isn't even likely you can get an FP for Soarin after 3:00 on a busy day, but you can get to the park at 7:00PM with an infant and get a baby swap pass.

 

[tjmw2727]

Does Soarin have a single rider line? There aren't a lot of them in DW.

If using the FP is "the same" as using baby swap, why does Disney offer it then instead of just telling these parents to just use FP? I don't think it is the same. The only similarity is that you use a ticket and get to stand in the FP line. It isn't even likely you can get an FP for Soarin after 3:00 on a busy day, but you can get to the park at 7:00PM with an infant and get a baby swap pass.

No soarin dosen't have a single rider line, EE, RnRC and TT do.

I am not interested in an argument I was just trying to be helpful and suggest alternatives for those who are not eligible for baby swap. When Babyswap isn't available I simply suggested you can accomplish the same thing with FP's - yes of course that's assuming they are still available.

In your example if you got to soarin at 3pm and get a baby swap pass the first parent still has to wait the entire standby line which can be upwards of 60 minutes depending on the time of year. Then the 2nd parent can return via the FP line with the swap pass. Baby swap isn't a head of the line pass its purpose is to eliminate a double wait - or as much of a double wait as possible.

IMHO anyone who arrives at soarin at 3pm and expects to ride without a wait is in for a rude awakening, baby or not

TJ

 

[mb168]

No, no argument here either. Thats the bad thing about emails and forums, it's too easy to mistake what someone is saying since you can't hear the tonal inflections so we have to use all the silly smilies over there that everyone over uses so they don't mean much either.

 

[StarCruiser]

Does Soarin have a single rider line? There aren't a lot of them in DW.

If using the FP is "the same" as using baby swap, why does Disney offer it then instead of just telling these parents to just use FP? I don't think it is the same. The only similarity is that you use a ticket and get to stand in the FP line. It isn't even likely you can get an FP for Soarin after 3:00 on a busy day, but you can get to the park at 7:00PM with an infant and get a baby swap pass.

Just a guess on my part, but I think the baby pass is needed for children under 3 years. Since the children do not have tickets you can not get fast passes for them (as was described about in the fast pass scenario). So if a couple has a baby under 3 years, and an older child, for both parents to be able to ride with the older child a baby pass would be needed. The family would only be able to get 3 fast passes (not four like the other scenario when the young child in over 3/over 40"). Does this sound right?

 

[beattyfamily]

Just a guess on my part, but I think the baby pass is needed for children under 3 years. Since the children do not have tickets you can not get fast passes for them (as was described about in the fast pass scenario). So if a couple has a baby under 3 years, and an older child, for both parents to be able to ride with the older child a baby pass would be needed. The family would only be able to get 3 fast passes (not four like the other scenario when the young child in over 3/over 40"). Does this sound right?

Yes, that's right but we were discussing the options for folks with kids old enough to ride but don't want to. If you have 4 people and one doesn't want to ride, you can get 4 Fastpasses and the parents can take turns riding with the older child. This is for folks who do NOT qualify for the baby swap pass.

 

[disneyfan2kids]

I've never been on it...but was definitely planning on going my next time, and my 5yo asked me if it was scary and I told him no because I really thought it wasn't. BUT - I'd rather him skip it and me enjoy it alone rather than tell him it's not scary and have him freak out once it starts.

Not sure if he'd find it scary... but he's afraid of: Bug's Life, Space Mountain, EE, Stitch... however he loved BTMRR, Muppets 3D. (To show you it's not necessarily speed or 3D effects that scare him.)

Just wondering what is scary about Soarin' so I can determine if he'd like this ride or not....thanks!

 

[beattyfamily]

I've never been on it...but was definitely planning on going my next time, and my 5yo asked me if it was scary and I told him no because I really thought it wasn't. BUT - I'd rather him skip it and me enjoy it alone rather than tell him it's not scary and have him freak out once it starts.

Not sure if he'd find it scary... but he's afraid of: Bug's Life, Space Mountain, EE, Stitch... however he loved BTMRR, Muppets 3D. (To show you it's not necessarily speed or 3D effects that scare him.)

Just wondering what is scary about Soarin' so I can determine if he'd like this ride or not....thanks!

That's a great question! I have a scaredy cat 7 year old who won't ride Splash, Thunder and ToT but she LOVES Soarin. It's probably her favorite ride. She's been riding since it opened so she was probably 5 years old.

The only people it might bother are those who don't like heights (even though it's all on the screen) or those who don't like simulated rides that make it appear like you are flying or are high up. I guess it can make some folks motion sick but I woud think you could just close your eyes.

 

[tjmw2727]

Just a guess on my part, but I think the baby pass is needed for children under 3 years. Since the children do not have tickets you can not get fast passes for them (as was described about in the fast pass scenario). So if a couple has a baby under 3 years, and an older child, for both parents to be able to ride with the older child a baby pass would be needed. The family would only be able to get 3 fast passes (not four like the other scenario when the young child in over 3/over 40"). Does this sound right?

Not quite, babyswap (or rider swap) has nothing to do with fast pass or the age of the child. If a child under three wants to ride a fast pass ride they simply accompany the rest of the party they don't need a FP. The CM's know that 2 and under don't have tickets so as long as everyone else in the party has a FP its fine. Many rides suitable for a 2yo have the fast pass like peter pan and winnie the pooh.

For the baby swap pass it doesn't matter how old the child is only that they don't meet the height restriction. My dd at 7 wasn't tall enough for RnRc so we could baby swap even though she obviously has a ticket.

Baby swap is offered when a party has a child who dosen't meet the height restriction. The first parent and any siblings ride while the second parent gets a rider swap pass and waits with the child who isn't tall enough. Then the second parent and up to 2 others (3 total) can return to ride that attraction any time that day via the fast pass line. You can use rider swap via the fp or standby lines.

When a child is tall enough but dosen't wish to ride then you can't get the swap pass. So we were just discussing ways to accomplish the ride with minimal wait and no rider swap pass

TJ

 

[tjmw2727]

No, no argument here either. Thats the bad thing about emails and forums, it's too easy to mistake what someone is saying since you can't hear the tonal inflections so we have to use all the silly smilies over there that everyone over uses so they don't mean much either.

Cool
Sorry

TJ