Cheerleaders: Respect the Guests! Rah-Rah-Rah!

[trypnotic]

We actually didn't have a problem with the cheerleaders on this trip. Of course, we were only there from Dec 8-11 and didn't present them with enough time or possibilities to annoy us

 

[bytheblood]

Or, better yet, why not volunteer with your local Pop Warner organization so that YOU can have a positive influence on the lives of these kids.

Oh wait... that would take more than the 5 minutes it takes to write a letter.

That is just ridiculous!!!

 

[helenk]

So what, we're not allowed to gripe about a company/organization's practices without actually trying to work there and change it ourselves?

If I get bad service at Applebee's, am I supposed to get a second job there as a waitress before complaining to management?

I think Pop Warner needs to know about the problems with their groups, and Disney needs to know about the problems these groups bring to the park. I'm not optimistic about anything changing, but it's a nice thought!

I agree 100%, the complaints should go to WDW and Pop Warner.

 

[BubblPopElectrc]

It is usually the first week- week and a half of Dec.

Whew.. Hopefully I'll be spared then. Thanks.

 

[kikipug]

I agree 100%, the complaints should go to WDW and Pop Warner.

Most people wouldn't start with Applebee's Corporate HQ when a problem is with an individual server... yet rather, the location manager.

The packet of information and guidelines for participants (which can be found on PW's website), includes a very well-worded letter explaining that it is up to the individual associations to keep their kids in line... Here is an excerpt from the letter:

We’ve had serious behavior problems at past Pop Warner Super Bowls at WALT

​

DISNEY WORLD®. This note gives you and your participants, young & old,

players & coaches, parents & fans fair warning that such problems have not been

tolerated in the past, and certainly will not be tolerated this year.

Every Pop Warner Association is accountable for its players, cheerleaders,

coaches, administrators, parents and others from your area at all Regional and

National events. Any incidents of unacceptable behavior from any person(s)

affiliated in any way with your Association will mean:

• A possible immediate ejection from the Pop Warner Super Bowl events

and WALT DISNEY WORLD® property. The persons involved risk

forfeiting hotel and other deposits. Revised Air reservations/ ticket

payments will be your problem, not ours nor Disney’s.

• Possible lifetime ban from Disney World.

• An AUTOMATIC PROHIBITION from all Regional and National events

for all teams/squads from that Association for one full season.

• Possible suspension and/or probation from coaching or administering

within Pop Warner.

Each Association is responsible for those who represent it. So is each League.

So is each Region. If repeated problems occur within a particular Association,

League or Region, additional measures will be taken.


Just about every participant wears their league t-shirts/jackets/etc... you might have a lot more success in dealing directly with the offending associations. They tend to be very well identified in the parks.​

 

[Olaf]

Or, better yet, why not volunteer with your local Pop Warner organization so that YOU can have a positive influence on the lives of these kids.

Oh wait... that would take more than the 5 minutes it takes to write a letter.

Maybe because I volunteer with my DS's scout troop, swim team, and soccer team. Maybe because my husband is in the military, frequently gone, and I'm left to be a single mom.

It is not asking too much of Pop Warner to insure that those children are adequately supervised and behave.

 

[Lucky82061]

Most people wouldn't start with Applebee's Corporate HQ when a problem is with an individual server... yet rather, the location manager.

The packet of information and guidelines for participants (which can be found on PW's website), includes a very well-worded letter explaining that it is up to the individual associations to keep their kids in line... Here is an excerpt from the letter:

We’ve had serious behavior problems at past Pop Warner Super Bowls at WALT

​

DISNEY WORLD®. This note gives you and your participants, young & old,

players & coaches, parents & fans fair warning that such problems have not been

tolerated in the past, and certainly will not be tolerated this year.

Every Pop Warner Association is accountable for its players, cheerleaders,

coaches, administrators, parents and others from your area at all Regional and

National events. Any incidents of unacceptable behavior from any person(s)

affiliated in any way with your Association will mean:

• A possible immediate ejection from the Pop Warner Super Bowl events

and WALT DISNEY WORLD® property. The persons involved risk

forfeiting hotel and other deposits. Revised Air reservations/ ticket

payments will be your problem, not ours nor Disney’s.

• Possible lifetime ban from Disney World.

• An AUTOMATIC PROHIBITION from all Regional and National events

for all teams/squads from that Association for one full season.

• Possible suspension and/or probation from coaching or administering

within Pop Warner.

Each Association is responsible for those who represent it. So is each League.

So is each Region. If repeated problems occur within a particular Association,

League or Region, additional measures will be taken.


Just about every participant wears their league t-shirts/jackets/etc... you might have a lot more success in dealing directly with the offending associations. They tend to be very well identified in the parks.​

I think that this furthur emphasizes the need to contact the Pop Warner Organization about innapropriate behavior that is observed at WDW. It basically reads as a warning to the individual organizations that they will be held accountable for their own actions and that if complaints are received at the top level then furthur action will be taken by the Pop Warner Organization, not by the individual associations.

Also, are the chaperones that accompany these groups not members of the associations? If so, then some of the encounter's detailed in this post point to the obvious fact that they do not care if the children are not behaving properly and in fact defend the misbehavior and in certain cases encourage it. Yes normally you would deal with the local manager of the Applebee's but when that manager yells at you for stating your server provided bad service, the only option left is to contact the corporate office. Just my thoughts...

 

[splashmtfan]

We were there the weekend the cheerleaders performed i think. the only bad thing i can remember is when we where on the TTA some teen cheerleaders would scream whenever we went into a dark tunnel or when another car went by.

 

[Buckimion]

Not to defend or accuse anyone but it is not just the cheerleaders. DH and I were on a bus and there was 2 moms, 2 dads, Grandma and about 6 kids and they sat in the back of the bus. They were singing Christmas carols over and over again and not very quiet either....it was annoying but what are you going to do??

Lead them in a chorus of Silent Night?

 

[poohsmommy4]

I did not read every response on this thread but I'm one of those PW people. My dd has been to WDW twice. We went with her last year and had the time of our lives. We stayed at the POR with the rest of our town. They were not loud or disruptive. I saw very few PW people in the parks. the few that were there we just fine.

You have to remember these kids work very hard to get here. A lot of them are not with their parents. Other people VOLUNTEER to bring them. Cut them some slack. Every where you go there are obnoxious people. We saw some that were not PW people.

Quit whining about it ruining your vacation. You are letting ruin your vacation. They are kids being kids in a place designed for kids. What about the parents yelling and screaming and hitting their kids, talk about a downer. Kids having fun, not a downer.

With that all said, kids who are being rude or destructive should not be tolerated. Someone should say something to them or the people they are with. I'll get off my soap box now. Thanks.

 

[PixelPusher]

Ughh...I hope they're all back home with their families over Christmas break.

I think it's our responsibility as adults to (in the most Disney way possible, though I'd have a hard time in some of those situations) let them know how rude and disrespectful they are. Same goes for the cell phone addicts that feel the need to discuss their personal stuff in crowded places.

Their attitudes are so insanely self-important, more people need to let these kind of people know that they are no better or more important than the rest of us.

 

[always quiet]

You have to remember these kids work very hard to get here. A lot of them are not with their parents. Other people VOLUNTEER to bring them. Cut them some slack. Every where you go there are obnoxious people. We saw some that were not PW people.

Quit whining about it ruining your vacation. You are letting ruin your vacation. They are kids being kids in a place designed for kids. What about the parents yelling and screaming and hitting their kids, talk about a downer. Kids having fun, not a downer.

Cut them some SLACK?! Excuse me, but when you travel in a "pack", it is quite obvious that you are trying to take over the area. You can not tell me that if one or two kids started to scream or yell non stop on a bus or in a line would not of been asked to quiet down, if not by a Disney CM, by others that are around them. When you are standing there and are outnumbered, these punks KNOW they will more than likely be left alone, out of fear!

As far as them "working hard" to get there, what about all the hard working adults who save up to take a vacation to WDW? Who "cuts them some slack"? Certainly not these punks or the adults who are to keep them in line. If Pop Warner tried harder to stress to these groups that disruptive behavior would NOT be tolerated, maybe more of them would take it serious. I am in no way saying that all the groups acted like monsters. It is just that the ones left a really negative impression on the organization. This is the point I intend on making to them.

I also think Disney needs to step up and have a "one strike, you're out" policy. Maybe if they did that once or twice, word would spread and the adults would do SOMETHING! A

 

[beck0321]

I was there last week and heard the SAME EXACT story from some man on a DTD bus. Maybe it was the OP?
Anyway, I never saw any of the cheerleaders on the buses, but I DID see a few groups in the parks. For the most part I didn't notice anything unusual, but a few times a group of cheerleaders would just stop in the middle of the street and burst into cheer and dance. It was odd and they were in the way. You could tell some people were getting annoyed with them getting in everyone's way. I think the chaperones should have told them that was rude and to stop. I saw a couple of bratty Lindsay Lohan wannabes. I almost ran over a group of girls that stopped to cheer in front of me in AK. That was about the extent of my encounter with the cheerleaders.
We did have a few noisy kids on one of our buses. They were chanting a French saying over and over. It was something like "Ca c'est moi" over and over and over...it was very odd.

 

[marivaid]

Or, better yet, why not volunteer with your local Pop Warner organization so that YOU can have a positive influence on the lives of these kids.

Oh wait... that would take more than the 5 minutes it takes to write a letter.

Great idea. I think we should all plan to go during the next Pop Warner week, and if these kids get unruly, we should just all forget about our vacation and offer to chaperone..

Give me a break! I was part of a gymnastics team for 5 years,I was 10 to 15 years old, when we went to compete in another town we would take public transportation and let me tell you, whoever didnt act as a CIVILIZED HUMAN BEING would not be allowed to compete, period. We usually had 2 coaches and 2 parents volunteering to be with us, if someone misbehaved one of the parents would either sit with the child while the rest of us competed, and if it happened during school days, they would actually take the kid back home and straight to school.

These are not NEEDY kids who do not have parents at home to teach them right from wrong, for the most part they are snobby,spoiled girls who think the world revolves around them, and their parents are right there with them doing nothing to keep them from annoying everyone else. While I have never encountered them at WDW, I have had the displeasure of sharing hotels with groups of cheerleaders-dancers-pageant girls several times. Seeing how they act at a simple Holiday Inn motel in the middle of nowhere, I can imagine how they can be at Disney World.

 

[maddhatir]

The sick part of it all is, these self-entitled kids and their equally self-absorbed parents have zero insight into the fact that the rest of the life forms on this planet have rights to anything that might in any way impede as much as a molecule of what the self-important demand 24/7. Raising kids in any way approaching empathy, compassion, self-respect, respect for others and the desire to contribute anything in return for all we are privileged to have is absolutely exhausting today.

 

[maddhatir]

Or, better yet, why not volunteer with your local Pop Warner organization so that YOU can have a positive influence on the lives of these kids.

Oh wait... that would take more than the 5 minutes it takes to write a letter.

I dont have kids- dont really want to be around them....so....ummm. no thanks-- I would rather they just behave in my presence!

AND! why should another adult feel they should have to VOLUNTEER to be a positive influence ON SOMEONE ELSES CHILD--- I THOUGHT THAT WAS CALLED ........A PARENT!?

 

[Onceler]

Cut them some slack... Every where you go there are obnoxious people... Quit whining about it ruining your vacation... They are kids being kids in a place designed for kids...

No, I don't think they should be cut some slack. There are many obnoxious people at the parks but few of them travel in loud packs and they aren't encountered as frequently as the Pop Warner cheerleaders are at the beginning of every December.

Last year, we were on Soarin' with two separate groups of cheerleaders. They decided to have a competition to decide who could cheer the loudest -- while the ride was running. Should the people on the ride have cut them some slack and not have let it ruin their enjoyment of the ride? Unfortunately, that was not an isolated incident. As the day went on we overhead quite a few people talk about how they would avoid going on rides when there were cheerleaders in line.

The unfortunate thing is that the majority of the Pop Warner groups were well behaved and caused no problems at all. But the exceptions were so bad that it tarnished the image of all of the groups.

 

[maddhatir]

where can you find out when the cheerleaders and the football groups are at WDW. We are planning on being there Nov 18th to Dec 1st 2007.

Go above to theme parks and check out WW of Sports- they dont have the Dec 2007 events listed yet- you should be OK- they are usually there the first Sat in Dec for about a week.

 

[disneytraveler]

I agree Robo. I was at Animal Kingdom Park ready to take a picture of the Christmas parade there. I had a great picture of Minnie lined up and then 5 cheerleaders ran right into the front of me. Although they all said, ''Excuse me!', it still was not right.

 

[maddhatir]

I did not read every response on this thread but I'm one of those PW people. My dd has been to WDW twice. We went with her last year and had the time of our lives. We stayed at the POR with the rest of our town. They were not loud or disruptive. I saw very few PW people in the parks. the few that were there we just fine.

But it seems the people that had to tolerate some of POP kids-- -DIDNT!-- remember-- there ARE there people there trying to have a good time also!

You have to remember these kids work very hard to get here. A lot of them are not with their parents. Other people VOLUNTEER to bring them. Cut them some slack. Every where you go there are obnoxious people. We saw some that were not PW people.

YOU have to remember a lot of people SAVE and WORK very hard to PAY for their Disney vacation!- remember those people!- and I am sure not everywhere you turned there were obnoxious people you had to deal with!

Quit whining about it ruining your vacation. You are letting ruin your vacation. They are kids being kids in a place designed for kids. What about the parents yelling and screaming and hitting their kids, talk about a downer. Kids having fun, not a downer.

hmmm- kids being rude! and loud!......is not fun...for ANYONE ELSE!

With that all said, kids who are being rude or destructive should not be tolerated. Someone should say something to them or the people they are with. I'll get off my soap box now. Thanks.

Oh- I have read when people try and say something to the kids-- what are the kids responses-- oh yeah-- F- YOU!.....thats nice.