Cheerleaders: Respect the Guests! Rah-Rah-Rah!

[dreamscometrue47]

My last reply......

Not all of the Pop Warner cheerleaders are teenagers. My town of Billerica, Ma, had ONE team go to WDW this season and they were a Pop Warner D team...they are NOT teenagers.

I guess that one of the last posters missed my point.....Don't call all cheerleaders punks and give them a hard time for doing a cheer on a bus. I AGREE that continued cheering can be annoying and should be stopped. But one cheer can't be more annoying that fights, arguments, screaming out of control kids, etc. are.

I usually never get involved in these kind of discussions....but in all of my years of attending Pop Warner cheerleading events, I have never witnessed what is being described on this thread, either on the busses, parks or resorts, and I felt strongly about standing up for the Pop Warner teams from New England that I know. Not saying I don't believe what other posters have said happened, but please believe what I say also.

Done.

 

[maddhatir]

I'm sorry if some of you can't stand kids that much. Last time I checked Disney was geared towards kids.

Geared towards KIDS!-- yes- not geared towards screaming teenagers- getting on your nerves!

 

[C.Ann]

My last reply......

Not all of the Pop Warner cheerleaders are teenagers. My town of Billerica, Ma, had ONE team go to WDW this season and they were a Pop Warner D team...they are NOT teenagers.

I guess that one of the last posters missed my point.....Don't call all cheerleaders punks and give them a hard time for doing a cheer on a bus. I AGREE that continued cheering can be annoying and should be stopped. But one cheer can't be more annoying that fights, arguments, screaming out of control kids, etc. are.

I usually never get involved in these kind of discussions....but in all of my years of attending Pop Warner cheerleading events, I have never witnessed what is being described on this thread, either on the busses, parks or resorts, and I felt strongly about standing up for the Pop Warner teams from New England that I know. Not saying I don't believe what other posters have said happened, but please believe what I say also.

Done.

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If you are that familiar with cheerleading, then you will know that when the kids suddenly break out into a LOUD cheer, it can be startling to those who are not expecting it.. No one should have to be startled unnecessarily in order to accomodate someone else's need to "cheer" whenever and wherever they feel lke it.. And if this is done on the bus - and it startles the driver and results in an accident, I assume the Pop Warner Association will be picking up the tab?

It's rude and unnecessary.. Plenty of time for screaming at the top of their lungs during practice and competitions..

 

[marivaid]

in all of my years of attending Pop Warner cheerleading events, I have never witnessed what is being described on this thread, either on the busses, parks or resorts,.

Yes but you also think that cheering in line and in buses is appropriate behavior.. so obviously we don't have the same standards. I've been on school trips with my mom's classes - 12 hour flight to British Columbia with 70 preteens, and whenever the kids got too loud one of the chaperones would get up and remind them that they were sharing the plane with 300 other people. No one is asking for these kids to be throw out of the parks or hotels, we're only asking that they respect the people around them. You know, the ones who are paying $3000 for a week at DISNEY.

 

[dreamscometrue47]

Ok, ok, I know I said i was done, but....

I really do agree with you that Loud and excessive cheering is rude. But if a group of 6 or 8 11- year old girls ( which is what has been my experience ) decide to cheer and NOT loudly and only once, I really don't see a problem with it. As I stated before, I'm going by my experiences as other posters are going by theirs, and I DO realy understand what other posters have experienced.

My main point is not to group all cheerleaders as punks, etc. They aren't.

Thanks and have a good night.

 

[Wendi]

dreamscometrue47, since you are refering most likely to me I too can defend myself. Why is one better than the other? Most of us have stated that it's the repeated, constant and continuous cheering, screaming and chanting that get to you. How is Cheering better or ok from fighting, crying babies or an argument? If it was just "A CHEER" we would NOT be having this discussion. I am tickled that your area does behave better than some, HOWEVER there are many more that make it look like it is throughout the organization. While you can defend your group, you can NOT down play any of the posters experiences. After all they happened to THEM and you where not there to see or hear how the PW's acted. Being as involved as you are you have to agree that a "talking too" would only go in one ear and out the other. What would make them act responsibly in public? If there were to be Rules and Guidelines that MUST be followed in order to participate, then they might stick to them if they knew they would be punished. By all means they should be able to have fun after a very rough competition, but not at the expense of the guests. For some this might be their one and only trip or the guests that are there to relax and get away from things. If they wanted constant Cheering and Dance Routines then they would have gone to your Competitions.
As for it not being fair to call the "Uncontrolled Angels" Punks. WHY? If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck and talks like a duck it must be a DUCK!
We were refering to the "Uncontrolled Angels" doing the mischief as Punks, NOT ALL of the PW's.

 

[dreamscometrue47]

Hi Wendi,

I actually do think we agree on pop warner cheerleading behavior.

And i would never discount any other poster's experiences...just like I don't think anyone would discount mine.

I think I just hate the word "punk".

 

[poohsmommy4]

I agree with dreamscometrue47. I'm done with this argument.

Pop Warner only goes up to the 8th grade.

 

[Mr. Pig]

I may be showing my age but isn't it too bad we have to have signs on attractions and CM's making announcements to please "Supervise your children". We always had "Take small children by the hand" but if we have to remind people to supervise children I think we can see a big part of the problem. It is an issue all year but with large groups together you know there will be problems. That being said, I had no bad encounters with the cheerleaders last week. The ones I saw were acting like kids but not disturbing anyone and were being supervised well. It is sad that a minority will ruin the reputation of the whole group but the fact is they do.

 

[marivaid]

It is sad that a minority will ruin the reputation of the whole group but the fact is they do.

Very well said, and it's not just the guests either. Check out this thread from the CMs forums http://www.stupidguesttricks.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=1550

 

[bytheblood]

Very well said, and it's not just the guests either. Check out this thread from the CMs forums http://www.stupidguesttricks.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=1550

WOW! I just read through a lot of those. Man, I feel TERRIBLE for the CMs that have to put up with that and clean up after those crappy people. Poor CMS.

 

[Tinkerbell424]

Wow.

They should have respected everyone else.If they wnated to cheer,they could have done it quietly to themselves.

anyway,im sorry you guys had a bad time on the bus.

Good Night!

 

[MomofCKJ]

I am not spending thousands of dollars to go hear people cheer in lines, buses and in the hallways of resorts. If I wanted to hear cheers, I would go to a game or competition. They just need to be taught how to behave in public and that guests are there to enjoy Walt Disney World, not listen to their cheering.

Allyson

 

[Corryn]

My sister and her in-law-family went down from the 5th to the 10th. She stayed in All-Star Music. Her neice was down there for a competition (she's 11) and they came in 5th place for her age group. She is really a sweet little girl, even my daughters (teens) say that they can't believe how sweet she is. And I know her mom would smack her from here to the moon if she acted like a bad girl and made her look bad.

I warned my sister beforehand that I had read previously about the cheerleading competitions down in Disney and the bad reputation they had. She expected the crowds and the mayhem. She was talking with a security guard in one of the parks. She said he was about our father's age, and he said he's never seen it crazier, he would be glad when they were gone.


She said she would never go during this time again. I would never attempt it, either.

 

[Madi100]

I read the poster who posted the "rules" of PW. I would be curious to see how many people got sent home. It's always great to see rules outlined and have them be very specific. But, the problem is that they aren't followed through. You save hundreds, thousands of dollars to go on this trip and who really wants to send someone home because they knocked over a stroller running? Well, I'm willing to bet that if they sent some of those kids home, instead of making excuses for them, there would be less and less behavior like that.

When I was in high school we took a few band trips. Our band director made quite certain that we were aware of the rules. She enforced them. She sent someone home one year. She really didn't care that their parents had to make a 14 hours round trip to pick up their child. And, because of that we behaved. Yeah, there was the silly giggles. There was the little pranks, but nothing that was disrespectful. It just was not tolerated.

We all have our pet peeves. We all notice rude behavior. But, the difference is the numbers. People don't enjoy listening to the cheerleaders in places they shouldn't be. People don't want to listen to the group of teenage boys heckling the rides. Most of us who go to WDW love Disney. Most of those kids don't appreciate the gift they have of being able to go.

 

[Yzerbear19]

I'm so sorry that so many people had such bad experiences, especially the poster whose stroller was knocked down. to all you who had a bad experience.

To me its a sad world we're living in. Teenagers and pre-teens do not have the respect for anything. We went to Washington DC in June and there was a large group of school kids at the Holocaust Museum when we were there and they had absolutely no respect for any of the other visitors. They were talking loud, running through the exhibit, making inappropriate comments, playing with the listening devices, etc. I think there was only one group I saw with a chaperone that was behaving properly. I couldn't believe the behavior of these children, especially in a museum. I think I saw one security guard yell at a group of them when they were trying to cut through an area they weren't suppose to. They didn't care if they were cutting in front of people trying to read the text by the pictures. They didn't care about anything. It was all just a day off of school to them. I think that is how many kids view these trips. Just a day off of school. With Disney, you get the added bonus of being at Disney.

It seems that the rules that are in place for these groups needs to be inforced. I was in an organization in high school, Business Professionals of America, and attended the state competition my senior year. If you were caught anywhere outside of the venue without a chaperone you were disqualified from the competition. They enforced the rules. There were also very strict rules about the noise level in the hotel, who could be in the hotel rooms and when. My sister was involved with a different organization, DECA, and competed at the national level in Orlando in 1999 and she was allowed to pretty much go whereever she wanted as long as she told her chaperone where she was going. Very different rules for the two organizations.

I would never behave the way that I have seen teenagers/pre-teens behave. My parents would have whupped our bottoms had we acted like that. Its really a shame what the world is coming to, the complete lack of respect for other people. Everyone is just thinking of themselves and doesn't care that their actions do affect others around them.

There is a time and a place for everything. Cheering does NOT belong on a public bus, in a que line, on a ride, by the pool at 3 am, etc. It belongs at the game or competition.

 

[DizzKneeGeek]

You have to remember these kids work very hard to get here.

So?? That gives them the right to infringe on others enjoyment with their mob mentality?

Cut them some slack.

No

Quit whining about it ruining your vacation.

Why? Just because you're involved with the origanization; we're not supposed to voice our opinions? Just let the dear little darlings do what they wish?

You are letting ruin your vacation.

Wrong! They are ruining it. Not me. I didn't make them be loud and obnoxious.

They are kids being kids in a place designed for kids.

Wrong! A place designed for families.

 

[Disneydreaming6]

It's not just the cheeleaders or pop warner. I was at disney 9/29-10/15, they had softball tourn. going on. These were middle school age children. Unfortunately my sister arrived just moments after the bus dropping off this crew. The chaparone was complaining he had to put the 5 rooms he was in charge of on his cc in case of damages. He refused, so that started a huge problem there, they wouldn't let the kids register without a cc and adult signature. Now if he had 5 rooms, that is 20 kids for that 1 person to be in charge of, noway can he supervise all those kids.
While sitting around the pool at night, they would come down, they would be swearing, running around, little kids were being knocked in the pool due to them racing around the pool. Life guards finally closed the pools because these angels were out of control. The chaparones, were sitting at the bar the whole time, not paying attention. Another night while sitting at the pool, I heard them over talking, boys and girls, no older then 14-15 wanting to do something really "crazy" they were talking about streaking thru the pool area. Once again pool was closed. Should my vacation that I worked all year for be ruined because some spoiled brats who don't know how to behave or chaparones that are only there for the cheap vacation can't watch the kids they are suppose to?
From the op, most of the problem is that kids are only taught we should respect them, they are not being taught to respect other people, especially elders. I'm not the old, but if my parents ever found out that I disrespected someone older then me, I would never be allowed to go anywhere again, til I was able to prove myself. Unfortunately most of the kids today have their parents think the world revolves around their little darlings. so when they are in the real world with others, the kids think everyone just lovessssssssssssss them like the parents do, and they are so precious, that we really enjoy listening to them chant the same thing over and over again until we are finally able to escape our tin prison.
I know all about the competetions, my nieces competed for years, my sister and bro in law coached for years, but if one the the girls on the team acted up, there would be consequences.
My dh has this unique talent of passing gas on command, I wonder how they would like for him to play his talent on that closed in bus?

 

[PrincessTiff]

I did not read every response on this thread but I'm one of those PW people. My dd has been to WDW twice. We went with her last year and had the time of our lives. We stayed at the POR with the rest of our town. They were not loud or disruptive. I saw very few PW people in the parks. the few that were there we just fine.

You have to remember these kids work very hard to get here. A lot of them are not with their parents. Other people VOLUNTEER to bring them. Cut them some slack. Every where you go there are obnoxious people. We saw some that were not PW people.

Quit whining about it ruining your vacation. You are letting ruin your vacation. They are kids being kids in a place designed for kids. What about the parents yelling and screaming and hitting their kids, talk about a downer. Kids having fun, not a downer.

With that all said, kids who are being rude or destructive should not be tolerated. Someone should say something to them or the people they are with. I'll get off my soap box now. Thanks.

Typical PW mom response. Learn to control your children, then we'll quit whining. I don't care how hard they've worked to get there, do you think the rest of us don't have to actually WORK at a real job to earn the money to get there?! Well, we do. Your point is invalid.

 

[marivaid]

DizzKneeGeek, every time I read one of your posts I end up almost crying and/or peeing. You just CRACK ME UP!!!! Everybody, let's line up at Space Mountain and do a cheer for DizzKneeGeek.