CFW Sales Tracking - includes all proofed county deeds through 8/31/25

[Patmcpsu]

The new incentives kicked in on 7/15. Using palm tree dates as the reliable data set, sales actually went down afterwards:

	County Deeds	County Points	Palm Tree Deeds	Palm Tree Points
Total before 7/15	14	2301	18	2460
Total 7/15 and after	34	4710	8	1250

 

[maui22]

The new incentives kicked in on 7/15. Using palm tree dates as the reliable data set, sales actually went down afterwards:

	County Deeds	County Points	Palm Tree Deeds	Palm Tree Points
Total before 7/15	14	2301	18	2460
Total 7/15 and after	34	4710	8	1250

Because of delayed closings, I would wait until the September data comes out to compare 7/1-7/14 and 7/15-7/31.

One of those areas where Disney knows these details at the time, it takes us 2-3 months to find out.
(There was a rare instance where delayed closings resulted in a 142 day difference between the palm tree date and the county date. Only Disney and the parties involved know why. Unless they are on the boards and want to share, I doubt we ever find out the story behind it.)

 

[eMoneyBug]

At this rate, the next Cabins inventory declaration will be in 2030 ?

 

[maui22]

Just wanted to mention, August is looking like a significant increase for CFW deeds showing up on the county.
County has not proofed 8/15 and later yet.

8/1/25-8/18/25 deeds, I show 8080 points so far. 8/18/25 3395 points, best day in CFW deeds since sales started.
If the pace keeps up, August may exceed the previous best (March 2024 12,276).

 

[Sandisw]

I overheard quite a few discussing the cabins while on board the Wish this weekend!

 

[maui22]

I overheard quite a few discussing the cabins while on board the Wish this weekend!

Not surprised. Aren't the CFW incentives significantly better than other resorts? I forget where (D23 Gold, Disney+, Disney Visa, or ???) had an even better incentive and only for CFW.

I think they changed and dramatically improved around July 15. Then, Welcome Home Weeks incentives came out last week to make buying even more attractive.

Summer of 2025 is a good opportunity for those looking to buy CFW.

 

[maui22]

This is based on manually gathered data from deeds on the county comptroller website.

Includes all proofed county deeds through 7/31/25.

So far, I have seen a spread of up to 93 days between a CFW "Palm Tree" date and the county recorded date. (PVB data has up to 142 days).
These delays are likely people delaying their initial deposit and then spreading the 3 monthly payments out.

Month/Year	County Recorded Deeds	Points based on Recorded Date	Deeds based on Palm Tree	Points based on Palm Tree Date
2/24	69	7159	136	15351
3/24	94	12276	69	9662
4/24	49	6902	40	5695
5/24	31	3940	25	3680
6/24	35	5351	28	4310
7/24	42	6560	39	6340
8/24	22	3400	37	5445
9/24	43	6445	46	6835
10/24	37	5560	30	5060
11/24	21	3325	16	2300
12/24	37	5985	47	7995
1/25	62	10140	67	10570
2/25	57	8680	55	7920
3/25	46	7065	40	6481
4/25	37	5840	22	2976
5/25	31	4367	39	5475
6/25	30	3950	29	4151
7/25	48	7011	26	3710
Totals	791	113,956	791	113,596

• February 2024
• March 2024
• May 2024
• June 2024
• July 2024
• August 2024
• September 2024
• October 2024
• November 2024
• December 2024
• January 2025
• February 2025
• March 2025
• April 2025
• May 2025 (milestone reached 100,000 points on 5/15/25)
• June 2025
• July 2025

Breakdown by UY

UY	Deeds	Points
FEB	122	16,926
MAR	58	7,791
APR	92	13,317
JUN	119	17,316
AUG	116	15,927
SEP	72	11,402
OCT	76	11,546
DEC	136	19,731

FW

FW#	Unit Type	# Deeds
16	Cabin	1
17	Cabin	1
26	Cabin	1
27	Cabin	1
40	Cabin	1
43	Cabin	9
44	Cabin	2
47	Cabin	1
48	Cabin	1
49	Cabin	2
50	Cabin	1
52	Cabin	1

Edited 8/5/2025

Quoting my original post so everyone can see how the overall resort looked after July 2025 data. (Original post will be updated to reflect data after August).

 

[maui22]

August 2025 data....

Includes all County deeds proofed through 8/31/25

FW # 50 Cabin appeared in county data on 8/28/25 (bringing # 50 to two)

Date	County Deeds	County Points	Palm Tree Deeds	Palm Tree Points
8/1/25	2	450
8/2/25			3	500
8/3/25			1	150
8/4/25	3	425	4	850
8/5/25	3	500	6	1020
8/6/25	4	650	2	350
8/7/25	4	500	2	350
8/8/25	3	300	1	150
8/9/25			2	250
8/10/25			1	200
8/11/25	10	1435	2	400
8/12/25			2	450
8/13/25	3	425	5	560
8/14/25
8/15/25			1	300
8/16/25			3	550
8/17/25			3	425
8/18/25	22	3395
8/19/25	4	650
8/20/25
8/21/25	5	775
8/22/25
8/23/25
8/24/25
8/25/25	6	950
8/26/25	3	360
8/27/25	3	450
8/28/25	8	1700
8/29/25	5	925
8/30/25
8/31/25
Totals	88	13,890	38	6505

Edited 9/4/25

 

[DonkeyHoTay]

FW # 50 Cabin appeared in county data on 8/28/25 (bringing # 50 to two)

One of those is me.

 

[Carouselofplanning]

I overheard quite a few discussing the cabins while on board the Wish this weekend!

Do you think people are buying on speculation that this is going to end up being a backdoor into owning Lakeshore Lodge?

 

[Sandisw]

Do you think people are buying on speculation that this is going to end up being a backdoor into owning Lakeshore Lodge?

The ones I heard and a few I talked to no…they were not deluxe people already, thought the cabins would work, points charts are great for the spaces and allows stays elsewhere!!

In all honesty, I don’t think many DVc owners outside forums even think about it.

I was on the boat from WL to CR…with a stop at FW first,,and there were a few DVC owners on it who had no clue what was being built or that it would be part of DVC.

 

[DoubleBaconBLT]

The ones I heard and a few I talked to no…they were not deluxe people already, thought the cabins would work, points charts are great for the spaces and allows stays elsewhere!!

In all honesty, I don’t think many DVc owners outside forums even think about it.

I was on the boat from WL to CR…with a stop at FW first,,and there were a few DVC owners on it who had no clue what was being built or that it would be part of DVC.

Those dues though...

That's the biggest hurdle for me. On my spreadsheets, CFW could be free up front and still not be the cheapest price per point over the life of the contract. As rising annual dues approach the cost of renting the points, the present value of the contract trends to zero. It's the same reason why Vero Beach and Hilton Head don't make sense to own financially. That said, there are plenty of people who love them and want the availability that comes with owning there. At that point it's not about the numbers, it's about how you personally value the stays you get, which is perfectly legit.

CFW is so hard though because you can buy Poly points direct and still use them at the cabins, paying less per point all-in, and still having decent 7 month availability for the foreseeable future.

 

[Carouselofplanning]

Those dues though...

That's the biggest hurdle for me. On my spreadsheets, CFW could be free up front and still not be the cheapest price per point over the life of the contract. As rising annual dues approach the cost of renting the points, the present value of the contract trends to zero. It's the same reason why Vero Beach and Hilton Head don't make sense to own financially. That said, there are plenty of people who love them and want the availability that comes with owning there. At that point it's not about the numbers, it's about how you personally value the stays you get, which is perfectly legit.

CFW is so hard though because you can buy Poly points direct and still use them at the cabins, paying less per point all-in, and still having decent 7 month availability for the foreseeable future.

That’s why I think there’s a high likelihood of this getting merged into the Lodge. Those dues are too close to being upside down and the place just isn’t selling. That new hotel will open which will push the dues for “the trust” down and it will all make sense somehow. But they can’t/won’t tell you that yet.

 

[DoubleBaconBLT]

That’s why I think there’s a high likelihood of this getting merged into the Lodge. Those dues are too close to being upside down and the place just isn’t selling. That new hotel will open which will push the dues for “the trust” down and it will all make sense somehow. But they can’t/won’t tell you that yet.

That seems to be the consensus. Which begs two questions:

1. What happens to people who bought CFW direct prior to the Lodge swooping in and saving the day? Will they be grandfathered in, or somehow left with just what they purchased? Does the trust format even allow for that? I know with the deeded interest structure, they had to keep everything uniform (e.g. like Poly and the Island Tower).

2. Will the prices be higher or lower after the Lodge saves the day? One can only imagine they go way up, and incentives way down, but man that feels like a risk to buy CFW now hoping for everything to magically work out.

 

[Sandisw]

Those dues though...

That's the biggest hurdle for me. On my spreadsheets, CFW could be free up front and still not be the cheapest price per point over the life of the contract. As rising annual dues approach the cost of renting the points, the present value of the contract trends to zero. It's the same reason why Vero Beach and Hilton Head don't make sense to own financially. That said, there are plenty of people who love them and want the availability that comes with owning there. At that point it's not about the numbers, it's about how you personally value the stays you get, which is perfectly legit.

CFW is so hard though because you can buy Poly points direct and still use them at the cabins, paying less per point all-in, and still having decent 7 month availability for the foreseeable future.

Yes, the dues are higher than others but again, those that find owning at CFW a plus, can overlook it.

I don’t think the vast majority of new buyers analyze things the way that some here do.

We did not. I just know that for the people who I heard or talked to, it sounded like their interest was piqued enough it might be something they would buy.

No idea who did or did not.

 

[DoubleBaconBLT]

Yes, the dues are higher than others but again, those that find owning at CFW a plus, can overlook it.

I don’t think the vast majority of new buyers analyze things the way that some here do.

We did not. I just know that for the people who I heard or talked to, it sounded like their interest was piqued enough it might be something they would buy.

No idea who did or did not.

Spot on. Sometimes I have to remind myself that according to the spreadsheets, I should only ever eat beans and rice...

 

[maui22]

How many people buying really focus on dues? Most buyers are exactly as @Brian Noble has described over the years. Having a good time with family and want to repeat it for decades to come.

A smart guide may show them a comparison of dues for various 1BRs. People may disagree, but there are two different rooms for sleeping accommodations with CFW.

• Riviera 1BR
• Polynesian IT 1BR
• CFW (which is a smaller 1BR but no W/D).

Here's a comparison for December 21-28, 2025

• Riviera 1BR resort view 357 points = $3234.42 ($9.06/pt)
• Polynesian IT 1BR resort view 406 points = $3219.58 ($7.93/pt)
• CFW cabin 190 points = $2257.20 ($11.88/pt)

There is no reason for a guide to talk about savings vs a hotel booking. That's a detail a sales person will avoid.

Good sales person now has a more economical resort to sell to customers.

 

[Carouselofplanning]

Yes, the dues are higher than others but again, those that find owning at CFW a plus, can overlook it.

I don’t think the vast majority of new buyers analyze things the way that some here do.

We did not. I just know that for the people who I heard or talked to, it sounded like their interest was piqued enough it might be something they would buy.

No idea who did or did not.

Or maybe this suggests not everything at Disney needs to become a DVC resort.

 

[Sandisw]

Or maybe this suggests not everything at Disney needs to become a DVC resort.

Ifthe plan is to make those part of LSL like the treehouses are part of SSR, then it become just a unique addition?

But, I do agree that right now, the sales certainly support the group who might want them as a home resort is pretty small.

 

[tidefan]

Ifthe plan is to make those part of LSL like the treehouses are part of SSR, then it become just a unique addition?

But, I do agree that right now, the sales certainly support the group who might want them as a home resort is pretty small.

But it's really hard to judge that in light of the dues disparity.