CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[dvcgirl67]

Because we need herd immunity. Otherwise those of us who did get it aren’t fully protected. And the vaccine isn’t 100%.

If I’m going to hang out indoors and maskless with friends in the upcoming months, they’ll have to be vaccinated. It’s a personal choice with the risk level I’m willing to take.

Same here. In close settings for sure, in the near future and until cases come *way* down I will need to know that people are vaccinated before I'll be indoors with them. I agree with TLsnell1981 that we have made some miraculous leaps with respect to the science and the overall success of our vaccine rollout compared to the rest of the world. According to many reports, the U.S. is going to be swimming in excess vaccine supply by mid-May because those of us who are eager for a vaccine will have received one.

And that's where things get tricky. What is the magical percentage to reach herd immunity? Hitting that percentage isn't enough just here in the United States as borders continue to open in the coming months and the possibility of variants, both here and entering from other nations will continue to plague us until most of the world is vaccinated. And even with our largely successful vaccine rollout to date, cases are going up in 31 states here at home.

Still, I'm more positive than negative for my own personal circumstances. My world will get bigger as a result of receiving the vaccine, and for that I'm grateful. Will it be like it was in 2019. No, I don't think so, not this year anyway.

 

[mom2rtk]

Because we need herd immunity. Otherwise those of us who did get it aren’t fully protected. And the vaccine isn’t 100%.

If I’m going to hang out indoors and maskless with friends in the upcoming months, they’ll have to be vaccinated. It’s a personal choice with the risk level I’m willing to take.

For the short term we're pretty much doing the same. But I'm also very much aware that we might never hit herd immunity. Once we hit that plateau, I'll just jump in with both feet. Because I refuse to keep this up indefinitely.

 

[dvcgirl67]

For the short term we're pretty much doing the same. But I'm also very much aware that we might never hit herd immunity. Once we hit that plateau, I'll just jump in with both fee. Because I refuse to keep this up indefinitely.

Yeah, I mean...we can't keep doing this forever. It's going to be a matter of risk assessment as a vaccinated person. For example....will we go to a 300+ indoor family wedding this summer when we're positive that a fair percentage of the attendees won't be vaccinated? No. Would I get on a flight and go to our favorite resort in Los Cabos, MX when I can wear a mask for 6 hours in flight, and then at the resort be able to go without a mask as all of the restaurants/activities are outdoors....yes.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

For the short term we're pretty much doing the same. But I'm also very much aware that we might never hit herd immunity. Once we hit that plateau, I'll just jump in with both fee. Because I refuse to keep this up indefinitely.

JoCo just extended their public health order which includes the mask mandate until April 30th (instead of March 31st). Given our vaccination rate in our community due to prior supply issues I felt that was more than fair. We're just really starting to be able to get more and more people vaccinated and with MO having everyone eligible as of April 9th (I think that's the date) that will help out.

But the extension of the public health order there's no capacity restrictions and no gathering limits. There's the normal social distancing (so tables in restaurants and such 6ft apart) and other public health guidelines though.

They said they really wanted to give at least a month for those eligible in Phase 3 and 4 to even have a chance at getting their 1st dose which I wholeheartedly agree with especially with how many people in Phase 2 were still waiting on being vaccinated. The number they gave is 30-31% of those eligible in the county had gotten at least 1 dose (~136,000) with 16% having gotten the 2nd dose (~72,000). I don't believe at all that's because people don't want it, it's just because they haven't had supply enough to really get through more and more people.

Herd immunity is something I've always been iffy on so I'm not banking on that. I will always say the more vaccinated the better, the more your community stands to have that protection which helps offset the amount of people who didn't get it.

 

[dvcgirl67]

For anyone eligible in NJ....my husband just told me that he saw lots of appointments open up at Walgreens all over the state. Not sure if they've been vaccinating.....I know Rite Aid and CVS have been. Or perhaps they got a big shipment allotment....just a head's up.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Would I get on a flight and go to our favorite resort in Los Cabos, MX when I can wear a mask for 6 hours in flight, and then at the resort be able to go without a mask as all of the restaurants/activities are outdoors....yes.

I would assume that's provided the resort in Mexico has a vaccine requirement as in you need to be vaccinated for people to stay, dine and be around the resort?

 

[Ariel484]

Ohio is open to everyone 16+ (EDIT) on Monday. More mass vaccine locations announced: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...vid-19-update-after-veto-override/6995343002/

 

[our two princesses]

Ohio is open to everyone 16+ (EDIT) on Monday. More mass vaccine locations announced: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...vid-19-update-after-veto-override/6995343002/

Our daughters, ages 25 and 21, had their names on a list at our local county health department. Both got a call a few days ago and have an appointment for this Wednesday morning.

 

[jlwhitney]

The concept of herd immunity is interesting since what many think it is will probably not Happen with Covid unless the vaccine/natural infection prevents all reinfections or like 99% which is just not known yet.

Think Measals which requires a high percentage to get vaccinated or nautral infection from, right now we have herd immunity for that outside of pockets of areas with strong anti vaccine people which gets under control quick. While maintaining the herd immunity there are no outbreaks and very minimal to no cases of the measals.

But take the flu we don’t have herd immunity but through vaccines and natural immunity to different strains and our bodies generally use to Being exposed to the flu it keeps flu levels at a manageable level where outbreaks don’t occur to the level that hospitals are strained and such. I suspect Covid will fall more like flu than measals but time will tell.

Chances are high Covid will never be eradicated. Small pox is the only one the world has and from a few places I have read one of the biggest reasons it Happened is because the virus can’t jump between humans and animals. Since we know coronaviruses can jump it will make it near impossible since it can always be floating somewhere on some animal.

The other big thing is mutations aren’t always going to be bad in time it could also very well weaken and cause a less serious illness. Viruses don’t want to kill hosts they need them to survive since they aren’t living organisms.

 

[dvcgirl67]

I would assume that's provided the resort in Mexico has a vaccine requirement as in you need to be vaccinated for people to stay, dine and be around the resort?

Currently I don’t believe they have a requirement that you are vaccinated, but you must have had a negative covid test within 72 hours prior to arrival. And they provide a covid test on-site prior to returning to the states. Also they are testing staff weekly. Because they have so little rain they’ve moved many spa treatments and workouts outside....etc.

Mexico has been open for business throughout this whole ordeal. The dicey parts are the airports and transportation between home and airport. Once in Cabo the resort sends a car and driver...presumably tested. But, easy enough to ride with windows 1/2 open for ventilation.

We’ll see how we feel when fully vaccinated, but this is a travel possibility that we’re kicking around.

 

[LynnTH]

MN is also opening up to 16 and over on March 30th. Skipping the entire next group and letting anyone go at this time. Very excited... The # of shots they get starting in April will be doubling from what they are getting now. Approx 300,000 shots a week. We have over 70% of Seniors vaccinated. So, way ahead of schedule.

 

[dvcgirl67]

This could explain why my husband saw all of those Walgreens appointments. NJ alone is getting 500K doses of vaccine next week....a 20% increase. That's great news.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1375468780902617091

 

[Colleen27]

Agreed. I don’t quite get the peer pressure thing to vaccinate. If you (general you) are fully vaccinated and thus protected from covid, why are you concerned with whether or not I choose to vaccinate? If I have covid, you should be protected.

Because the goal isn't just protecting ourselves. The goal is also to get to something more resembling our pre-2020 way of life, and that can't happen unless a significant majority of people embrace the vaccine and do so before a variant emerges that is capable of evading existing immune responses (whether natural or vaccine-induced). But peer pressure isn't the universal negative it is being presented as on this thread. If a whole bunch of people in your social circle talk up a movie or a restaurant, you're probably more likely to try it than if you just drive by it or see a TV ad for it, right? Vaccination pressure works much the same way. When a bunch of people whose opinions and judgement you respect are "bragging" about getting vaccinated (by posting pictures of their sticker on social media or whatever), you're more likely to be receptive to pro-vaccine messages yourself. Unfortunately, it can also work the other way, with anti-science/anti-vaxx sentiment self-reinforcing through group opinions.

ETA: It apparently worked in my family. Last time I talked to MIL about it, in mid-Feb., she was still on the fence about whether or not to get the vaccine. But her sister, nieces, and cousins who make up most of her social world and her friends in her neighborhood and crafting group have been vocally pro-vaccine... and at some point, she did decide to get it, because she just posted "second shot done" with a vaccine sticker pic on FB. I can almost guarantee no one was harsh about it, but having your whole "tribe" talking about something as the right thing to do, the way to get back to wine Wednesdays or whatever, does have an impact. It is also a weight off my mind because I know she's planning for Easter as usual and most of the guest list is only half vaccinated, with two grandkids still too young to get it at all.

 

[DLgal]

This could explain why my husband saw all of those Walgreens appointments. NJ alone is getting 500K doses of vaccine next week....a 20% increase. That's great news.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1375468780902617091

It is worth mentioning that the pharmacies don't get their allocation from the states, but directly from the Federal Government. So, NJ is getting 500k doses and zero of those will go to Walgreens. Walgreens gets theirs from a different supply chain.

 

[piglet1979]

Ohio has 25.91% have at least gotten their first dose. 14.64% have completed. We have 70.9 80+ vaccinated and 69.80% 75-79. Count wise 50-59 have has 532,379 vaccinated. About 200,000 more then any other age. They are at 34.52%. I don't know about shipments amounts but I know we are getting more. We have more mass sites opening up and they are starting mobile sites next week I think.

 

[dvcgirl67]

It is worth mentioning that the pharmacies don't get their allocation from the states, but directly from the Federal Government. So, NJ is getting 500k doses and zero of those will go to Walgreens. Walgreens gets theirs from a different supply chain.

Ahh...ok....good to know. So, this supply will go to State Mega-sites and other organizations I'm guessing? And that's good news....because Walgreens is getting a lot too apparently. NJ also opened up to 55+ and some additional frontline workers...etc.

 

[DLgal]

Ahh...ok....good to know. So, this supply will go to State Mega-sites and other organizations I'm guessing? And that's good news....because Walgreens is getting a lot too apparently. NJ also opened up to 55+ and some additional frontline workers...etc.

Exactly. The state distributes to counties and places like nursing homes and medical providers, clinics, and community based vaccine sites.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Exactly. The state distributes to counties and places like nursing homes and medical providers, clinics, and community based vaccine sites.

It really does seem that by mid-May we're going to have vaccine to spare. I've been critical of the Covid response here, especially early on. But clearly, one of the critical things that the U.S. did was to throw billions and billions of dollars at vaccine makers knowing that some would work, and others may not. Being the wealthiest nation in the world certainly helps. At this point it seems like we're going to be giving a lot of vaccine away, particularly the AstraZenaca vaccine.

It's hard to see Europe in general struggling so badly. Most of France is back in a serious lockdown with hospitals in Paris filling again.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Ohio has 25.91% have at least gotten their first dose. 14.64% have completed. We have 70.9 80+ vaccinated and 69.80% 75-79. Count wise 50-59 have has 532,379 vaccinated. About 200,000 more then any other age. They are at 34.52%. I don't know about shipments amounts but I know we are getting more. We have more mass sites opening up and they are starting mobile sites next week I think.

My state doesn't do 50-59 so it's hard on a state level to see for comparisons sake unfortunately and they use rates/1,000 of the population. Ours goes 45-54 then 55-64, then 65-74. Most of the efforts were to get 65+ and up vaccinated (my county is sure working hard on making sure that +age group gets it) as well.

In mine per 1,000 the 75-84 have the most at 769.93/1,000. Next up is the 65-74 at 695.43/1,000. After that is 85+ at 677.24/1,000. As a whole I'm going to give it more time for numbers after these age groups as those below 65 would have been previously eligible largely due to occupation and just became eligible with medical conditions and other essential workers 4 days ago.

 

[piglet1979]

My state doesn't do 50-59 so it's hard on a state level to see for comparisons sake unfortunately and they use rates/1,000 of the population. Ours goes 45-54 then 55-64, then 65-74. Most of the efforts were to get 65+ and up vaccinated (my county is sure working hard on making sure that +age group gets it) as well.

In mine per 1,000 the 75-84 have the most at 769.93/1,000. Next up is the 65-74 at 695.43/1,000. After that is 85+ at 677.24/1,000. As a whole I'm going to give it more time for numbers after these age groups as those below 65 would have been previously eligible largely due to occupation and just became eligible with medical conditions and other essential workers 4 days ago.

Ohio is open to 40+ now and all adults if there are openings. 16+ officially opens on Monday. Things seem to be moving fast here.