Casey Anthony Trial Thread #3

[Belle0101]

Sad story from our local news:

http://www.wndu.com/hometop/headlines/Young_boys_rescued_from_trunk_in_New_Carlisle_124109004.html

UPDATE: Child dies after being pulled from trunk in New Carlisle
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One of two boys pulled from the trunk of a car parked outside a New Carlisle home Friday night has died.

County Metro Homicide officials say Jacqueline Wilk found her sons, 2-year-old Isaac Dunner and 4-year-old Dominick Wilk, in the trunk outside her home in the 300 block of Ada Street around 3 p.m.

Emergency crews rushed the boys to Memorial Hospital, where Isaac Dunner later died.

Dominick Wilk is in critical but stable condition.

How the boys got into the trunk, how long they were there and whether foul play was involved is still under investigation.

Officers are talking to Jacqueline Wilk. Police have not ruled out foul play, but they say at this time the situation appears to be a tragic accident.

An autopsy for Isaac Dunner has been planned for Saturday.

Tune in to NewsCenter 16 at 11 and keep checking WNDU.com for updates on this story.


ETA: It was just reported that this happened at the home of the grandparents. Our temps hovered just shy of
90F today and it was sticky (a wee bit humid) too.

 

[Seahunt]

Watching Nancy Grace, she says that the defense expert today admitted that he was hired by the defense BEFORE Caylee's remains were identified. Did anyone else notice this? How much trouble could Baez be in for that?

The defense team called Dr. Huntington the day Caylee's body was DISCOVERED, 8 days before it was identified as her. I find that suspect.

Yeah and it was the lovely Linda Kenney Baden who called them.

Now she's a regular on the talk shows, and even admitted there was no nanny back in April (!):

Casey Anthony lied about a nanny taking Caylee, a former Anthony attorney tells CBS’ ”48 Hours Mystery.”

CBS affiliate WKMG-Channel 6 shared that revealing interview last night. When asked about the nanny, Linda Kenney Baden says, “I think everyone knows that that was a lie.”

Uh, hey Linda ya think you could have passed that info along to the people who were still searching for her

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...inda-kenney-baden-tells-48-hours-mystery.html

My opinion it always comes back to the smell of decomposition in the car. At least 6 or more people have testified to smelling it, including Casey's parents. There was a dead body in Casey's car and no one will ever get me to change my mind about that fact.

I agree. I remember exactly when I really knew for sure (to me) that it was decomp was one day at lunch when I was watching a local news report. The reporter was standing clear outside the fence of the sheriff's garage bay that stored the car (and the door was down) and she had to hold a hankerchief against her mouth to report or she would gag from the smell, which in turn made me quit eating right then

I was just reading something about KC texting today?!?! For anyone rewatching the trial can you keep an eye out for that. They said she has the phone in the binder.

No wonder they wanted the defense table turned with their backs against the wall.

Yes it has been a long week, but drink? I hyavent eaten dinner yet.

You can share some of my chips

I sometimes wonder how this case even moves forward at times. Like today, the NO bugs...I mean, if a body was in a laundry bag.

And remember the laundry bag had a waterproof vinyl liner (Whitney design #2516

the car seat

I remember the stains on the car seat and the test on them that eerily ended up looking like Caylee's face looking back:

Cindy said that when she got the car back Caylee's doll was sitting in the car seat, and other people posted on WS that it looked like the car seat straps had been adjusted to fit the doll

I always think how Beyond Awful it must be for the parents and brother. Imagine what they must be living thru, because in their heart of hearts they know, A) that the child did not drown B) their daughter lies about everything c) they have the same missing items, the laundry bag, the plastic bag, the duct tape, that just happen to be with their dead grandchild D) they smelled DEATH in that vehicle, and nothing can justify or explain that..it is beyond comprehension and I pray that They can somehow survive thru what is to come........for Casey is still their daughter, regardless. Tragic

CNN correspondent Gary Tuchman was interviewed on HLN's 'In Session,' telling host Vinnie Politan, that he saw the couple looking extremely sad as they exited the courtroom.

“I went up to George and Cindy and said 'I'm sorry for what you're going through...” Tuchman recounted.

He noted that Cindy said, “Thank you very much.”

He then entered the elevator, riding down more than 20 floors with the emotional couple.

“We walked into the elevator – the courtroom was on the 23rd floor of this very tall building – it was a long elevator ride, and for 23 floors, they just held each other and they cried and she put her head in his chest and he put his head down towards her...” said Tuchman.

He continued, “It was a very tender moment, it was very poignant, it was very sad to watch this... I've never seen people who have to go through so much in any legal case... George has been accused of molesting Casey. That's part of the defense.”

Politan added, “And that George was there when this alleged drowning took place... That elevator ride, I've got to imagine on most days has to be a cathartic moment for them, cause they're in there together... They have each other. They don't have their daughter and they don't have the shining light of their life, which was Caylee.”

Tuchman said, “I think what was notable about watching them hug each other tenderly for these 23 floors is that if Cindy had any belief whatsoever that George had molested their daughter, there's no way she would be acting that way, hugging him like a loving couple. It's clear she supports him 100 percent.”

Politan noted Cindy likely does not believe the things said about George in the defense's opening statements.

“... I can't imagine that she believes that George would dispose of their granddaughter in the woods and allow her to decompose in the trunk, decompose in the woods, have animals chewing on their Caylee's remains. I can't imagine she believes that either if she's able to lean on George an be there for each other,” Politan said.

Tuchman stated, “I'm staring at these two people and I know that the defense attorneys are trying to convince the 17 members of the jury – the 12 jurors and five alternates – that this man molested his daughter and then callously let this little granddaughter be buried in the Woods... If this is true... if these jurors believe it, he would be one of the most horrible men on earth... That's what it comes down to.

He added, “One thing that's clear, George Anthony, if he wanted to go all out to get his daughter acquitted could agree with the characterization...but they're not. Their family lawyer is making it clear that they are going to tell the truth and the truth is he never molested his daughter Casey and that he had nothing to do with any drowning... yet they're still supporting Casey because it's their daughter. I mean, think about it as a parent, you support your children no matter what... Even if you think she may have killed her granddaughter.”

 

[hellokitty86]

Belle, what a horrible story. It just makes me sick to think about it...so sad.


Here's a link to George Anthony's 911 call regarding Leonard Padilla being at their house:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...onard-padilla-returns-20110616,0,173641.story

 

[LisaR]

CNN correspondent Gary Tuchman was interviewed on HLN's 'In Session,' telling host Vinnie Politan, that he saw the couple looking extremely sad as they exited the courtroom.

“I went up to George and Cindy and said 'I'm sorry for what you're going through...” Tuchman recounted.

He noted that Cindy said, “Thank you very much.”

He then entered the elevator, riding down more than 20 floors with the emotional couple.

“We walked into the elevator – the courtroom was on the 23rd floor of this very tall building – it was a long elevator ride, and for 23 floors, they just held each other and they cried and she put her head in his chest and he put his head down towards her...” said Tuchman.

He continued, “It was a very tender moment, it was very poignant, it was very sad to watch this... I've never seen people who have to go through so much in any legal case... George has been accused of molesting Casey. That's part of the defense.”

Politan added, “And that George was there when this alleged drowning took place... That elevator ride, I've got to imagine on most days has to be a cathartic moment for them, cause they're in there together... They have each other. They don't have their daughter and they don't have the shining light of their life, which was Caylee.”

Tuchman said, “I think what was notable about watching them hug each other tenderly for these 23 floors is that if Cindy had any belief whatsoever that George had molested their daughter, there's no way she would be acting that way, hugging him like a loving couple. It's clear she supports him 100 percent.”

Politan noted Cindy likely does not believe the things said about George in the defense's opening statements.

“... I can't imagine that she believes that George would dispose of their granddaughter in the woods and allow her to decompose in the trunk, decompose in the woods, have animals chewing on their Caylee's remains. I can't imagine she believes that either if she's able to lean on George an be there for each other,” Politan said.

Tuchman stated, “I'm staring at these two people and I know that the defense attorneys are trying to convince the 17 members of the jury – the 12 jurors and five alternates – that this man molested his daughter and then callously let this little granddaughter be buried in the Woods... If this is true... if these jurors believe it, he would be one of the most horrible men on earth... That's what it comes down to.

He added, “One thing that's clear, George Anthony, if he wanted to go all out to get his daughter acquitted could agree with the characterization...but they're not. Their family lawyer is making it clear that they are going to tell the truth and the truth is he never molested his daughter Casey and that he had nothing to do with any drowning... yet they're still supporting Casey because it's their daughter. I mean, think about it as a parent, you support your children no matter what... Even if you think she may have killed her granddaughter.”

Thanks for posting this.

 

[Belle0101]

Belle, what a horrible story. It just makes me sick to think about it...so sad.


Here's a link to George Anthony's 911 call regarding Leonard Padilla being at their house:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...onard-padilla-returns-20110616,0,173641.story

I've never believed that Casey was repeatedly keeping a drugged Caylee in her trunk so she could party. This report from our local news backs that up for me.

Also, I worked in a vet office for a time and we had a couple bring in their dog that they had left in their car on a summer day. We worked as hard and as quickly as we could and the dog still died in front of us. It's a horrible death and not something I believe a person or pet could survive easily.

 

[Kurby]

I wonder the same thing. She was probably doing a happy dance when she found that card in the apartment office! She totally "lucked out" on that!


True story! She always sounds like she's about to cry over this. I don't know if that's her speech pattern/voice or whether she's choking back tears.

Nancy can come back from the washroom and sound like shes about to burst into tears because they are out of toilet paper.

personally i think it's an act - i mean emotion is one thing but every single time??? did she burst into tears when she was asking defendants questions? is that why she's no longer a prosecutor?

 

[Aisling]

I just want to go on record and say that Casey Anthony WILL be called to the witness stand by Jose Baez as his last witness.

 

[redlight]

I'm sure someone has said this before. Casey looks like Jennifer Love Hewitt.

 

[LisaR]

I just want to go on record and say that Casey Anthony WILL be called to the witness stand by Jose Baez as his last witness.

I hope you are right. I can't imagine what Jeff Ashton will do to her but I definitely want to watch it unfold. I would love to see someone get truly tough with her. The one detective (Muri??) pressed her a bit and she didn't back down and stuck to all her lies. I think part of Casey's problem is that nobody ever confronts her for more than a few minutes and then they back down.

 

[Wadecool]

It's typed--lol

I was just reading something about KC texting today?!?! For anyone rewatching the trial can you keep an eye out for that. They said she has the phone in the binder.

Just got news that I will be with you guys on Tuesday My surgery has been postponed because the anesthesiologist wants me to see a cardiologist for all new testing prior to surgery to make sure I can make it thru.

Stinks because I've waited years for this surgery and have been nervously anticipating it. For it to be squashed just days before it happens has me upset.


Just noticed I have the date he was hired wrong in the above quote--that
should say December 2008 NOT 2009

Wher did you hear that? Judge Perry is so in control of that courtroom, I can't believe he would allow her to have access to a cell phone.

 

[Seahunt]

In case you didn't see this, here's Caylee in her "Big Trouble" shirt that Cindy says she never saw (but found with Caylee's remains )
Taken at Ricardos apartment:

January 28,2008

March 19,2008

Maybe this shirt was only used when sleeping over elsewhere, and that's why Cindy had never seen it?

 

[Aisling]

I hope you are right. I can't imagine what Jeff Ashton will do to her but I definitely want to watch it unfold. I would love to see someone get truly tough with her. The one detective (Muri??) pressed her a bit and she didn't back down and stuck to all her lies. I think part of Casey's problem is that nobody ever confronts her for more than a few minutes and then they back down.

I'm related by marriage to a lawyer who has worked with baez and he says he'd bet the dog that Baez is going to shock everyone and put her up there. I hear he has someone going over the questions with her already. She's being coached to act like a scared innocent child as a way to counter the grilling she's going to get from Ashton and to make the jury see her as a real person instead of just a face and name sitting there. They're going to play down the molestation accusations and use the George helped her hide the accident and that she was so sad and grief-stricken she went along with it, eventually repressing it all as if it never happened. That's why she isn't able to show emotion as a grieving mother would. Be ready for a lot of objections by both sides while she's being questioned.

 

[Seahunt]

I thought this was strange. Per WS the only photo that was added to Casey's photobucket between June 15 to July 16 that was Caylee related was this photo with a heart added:

Everything else was Tony L. or music related.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

Didn't get to watch today and THANK YOU IRISHBOSOX for your fantastic play-by-play!! I will need your recaps Saturday and Monday too!

Might have missed this, but is the defense still going to call Vasco Thompson as a witness after what he said in his press conference?

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Awesome baseball game! We won!

Thanks for saying the thoughts I couldn't put words to.

Thank YOU.

And while we're winding down, let's have a look at some of Casey's facebook posts for fun. I thought this one stood out:

May 26

Amy Huizenga wrote at 10:18am
You lost my duct tape! I was excited to have so much left! Thats why I get for giving you my purse... Stupid costume that didn't work the way it should have.... what a waste of gaff tape...

http://www.dreamindemon.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-7752.html

Yikes!

Dr. Tim was on the stand all day, and the only thing I took from it was him admitting that there was still an odor in the car 2 years after the trash was removed. Forget pigs in a blanket, stains on a carpet, he admitted that there was still a smell in that car 2 years later.

I also LOVED when Ashton took the garbage out and made him own it. There was NO food in that bag!

Ditto! And Ashton was awesome.

There was a dead body in Casey's car and no one will ever get me to change my mind about that fact.

Agreed.

Yes, and Casey knew there had been a dead body in the car, tried to cover up the smell with garbage, and tried to ditch the car when the smell wouldn't go away.

We keep coming back to the question that if it was an accident, what was the duct tape for?

Agreed.

That Sonny Holstin on HLN annoys me. I can't explain it. Her personality irks me!

Me too. She's mellowed out a bit since the beginning of the trial. In the beginning, she tried to play devil's advocate, which is fine, but in a mocking gleeful way. Now, she seems a bit more serious with her opinions, so she's grown on me slightly. My fave is Casey Jordan. I like her on Facebook...she actually comes back and comments to people sometimes.

With all the lakes and retention ponds around here, I am shocked that George didn't dump that car in one as soon as he smelled decomposition. I am also surprised that Casey didn't take that route. She could have said the car broke down and when she went back for it, it was gone. It would likely have taken months for them to find the right lake where it was dumped and all signs of decomposition would be gone.

Were you the one I was discussing this with before?? Three local RI/MA went missing in Florida years ago, and were found in a lake in Celebration? That's when I learned how common it is to have cars sitting at the bottom of lakes in Florida.

I was just reading something about KC texting today?!?! For anyone rewatching the trial can you keep an eye out for that. They said she has the phone in the binder.

Just got news that I will be with you guys on Tuesday My surgery has been postponed because the anesthesiologist wants me to see a cardiologist for all new testing prior to surgery to make sure I can make it thru.

Stinks because I've waited years for this surgery and have been nervously anticipating it. For it to be squashed just days before it happens has me upset.

Maybe Casey and Baez text each other, since it appears he was texting today too (per Ashton). And I'll be all sorts of polite and respectful and unbiased here and say that maybe that's just the way things are done between an attorney and the client these days, with technology being what it is.

I am SO sorry about the surgery delay! I'll bet you're upset. Well, we'll definitely be here on Tuesday for you, and throw in some extra hugs and maybe a few chuckles to keep your mind off things.

I really try hard to keep an open mind too, but the ridiculousness of it makes it so hard. I would have been very open to an accident and a panicked mother but when you throw in all the other crap, it is hard for me to keep an open mind.

I agree. With all the drama before the trial of the big defense, I thought just MAYBE there was something we didn't all know that WOULD explain it all? But I'm not buying it.

I am not trying to trivialize any one's opinion. I said I understand where you are coming from. I just see nothing on this thread that ever gives any sort of pass to the defense. Baez is referred to as Bozo. No matter what he says or does, he is stupid. I don't agree with everything he does, but he is trying to do his job. Yet, everything the state does is great. From this, I got the message that, emotionally, people on this thread are so vested in the case against Casey that they will never admit to anything that could point to anything positive presented by the defense.

When I say that I am looking at it from an academic position, I am simply trying to say that I only care about the mechanics of the case. In the end, my opinion on her guilt or innocence means nothing. I am not the one who will be deciding.

Am I interested in the case? Absolutely! I just don't hate anyone over it. Sorry. I realize that it is an unpopular stance. There has not been a single day in the past three years that I haven't had to hear about this case. So, I guess I have been over saturated and just don't care enough to hate anyone.

I will now depart from this thread. While I've been told that other viewpoints are welcome here, when I post something from another viewpoint, I feel like I am very unwelcome. I don't want to rain on any one's parade.

For the record, I do think Casey is guilty.

It's not your viewpoint I have an issue with...it's your approach, which I have explained and my opinion remains.

You certainly are welcome to stay on this thread, but it's your choice, if you don't feel welcome. I've been on the DIS for over 10 years, and there have certainly been threads where I have not felt welcome. I made the choices that felt comfortable for me.

As far as hating Casey, I never said that, because I don't. I specifically stated in another post, in another thread, that I kind of feel sorry for her, and I know I quoted somewhere along the way, below, someone who put into words what I feel. I know that there were people who were quick to jump in and say that they didn't feel that way, there are people who strongly want her to get the death penalty, and those who don't, and gray areas in between. That's fine. No one has to agree with me, altho there are certain people on this thread that I feel a certain bond with because I feel we're on the same page.

About Baez and the defense team. I think I quoted Joviroxx about Baez, and I agree with her. More down post. And I do think that Mason has shown himself to be a condescending SOB. I thought he did a great job with the motion to acquit, but do believe JP was right not to grant it. Simms stroking Casey like a puppy creeps me out and was even an issue for Perry.

Well, the majority of the people on this thread are in favor of the prosecution, and therefor will criticize the opponenet (the defense) more often than not. If you are watching the media coverage of this case you surely have noticed that the majority of the commentators are saying that Baez is making a joke of himself and tripping over his own two feet.

Just because the bulk of this thread are posters who are criticizing and or poking fun at Baez and his team doesn't mean that we as posters are being unwelcoming, flaming or trivializing toward your opinions, we simply don't agree. When you are in a minority opinion it may often feel like you are unwelcome or trivialized, but that simply is not the case. The fact of the matter is that your opinion is outnumbered by those who disagree.

I am actually surprised at how civil and friendly these threads have remained in light of the controversy and media coverage this trial is having.

Agree, on all counts. And I've sat back and looked at these defense lawyers as objectively as I can, and asked myself if I didn't feel so strongly about my belief that Casey is guilty, would I still not like them as strongly? And the answer is a resounding "yes"; they have personalities traits that I do not like. I've watched many other cases of over the years, and have never felt so negatively (once again, for the reasons I've quoted below) for the side I don't agree with as I do this case. Other cases have been ALMOST as emotional (but "smaller" cases), but I've never seen such bumbling before as I've seen in this case.

Is it possible that Baez actually IS a bozo, and the prosecution IS doing great?

Well, that's a nutshell if I've ever seen one!

I guess we are not only watching two different trials but we are also reading two different threads.

I guess so!

OK, this is my opinion and my opinion only. Ive been with the case since pretty much the beginning. I watched about 90% of the pre-trial hearings as well. To me, Baez IS a bozo. He came into this case and hit the media running. It was his rocket to fame. Ive seen him have motions rejected because they didn't meet legal standards, Ive seen judges constantly have to walk him through things, I saw him almost charged with contempt of court and have to pay a fine because he kept missed court ordered deadlines. He has no business handling this case and the life of this girl. He makes a mockery of the legal system, so yes, I don't respect him as a lawyer.

I know his job is to do the best for his client and I have no issue with that. He has had his moments but I still believe he is in way over his head. Who stands at the podium, in front of a judge, and texts??????

Regardless, I think these threads have been great and friendly and I don't see anyone being told or jumped on for having any kind of opinion I had no idea people were feeling unwelcome

Well, you speak for me too, and I think many others. Many of the commentators were saying today...as lawyers themselves...how the texting was just so inappropriate and a mockery of their profession. And in addition to the things listed by joviroxx, there's so much more. Let's not forget Baez needing to be told more than once to quit hugging his client in jail. I mean, really! And, Baez has a pretty skanky background too.

You know FeralPeg, SOMETIMES, just maybe, there's a reason why there's "a crowd", and it's not because people just want to jump on a bandwagon. Just maybe there's a whole lot of reasons to back up being part of that crowd. If you don't agree with the majority, then that's fine. But I do get the feeling that you feel that if one is part of the majority, then one hasn't thought for him/herself.

I dont think she will get the death penalty either. I think the question will be if they charge her with felony murder or aggravated manslaughter but I don't see them finding her guilty of capital murder. (although I think she deserves it.)

I am very PRO death penalty, in that I believe it should exist. I have questioned over my many years (ahem) when and why it is applied. I have not always agreed. But, it's not up to me to agree...it's up to the prosecutors to pursue it, and the jury to recommend it (or not). If it were...no, I don't think she should get the death penalty. I think there are other crimes worse (as much as we've all come to adore Caylee) than this.

That's one of the questions that just has me stumped. I keep thinking that its just Cindy covering but I just can't quite figure if anyone else remembers the name as well.. And it can't really be years, can it? Caylee was only 2 1/2. We just don't know a lot about her life before about Mar 08 when she started meeting all these new people.

I'm pretty sure Cindy had said she had first heard about Zanny the Nanny about a year and a half before Caylee's death.

I was out all day so I'm still working my way through all the posts but I couldn't let this particular comment pass without a reply. I personally don't hate Casey. It may be difficult to believe but it's the God's honest truth. Probably what I most feel towards her is pity.

My pity towards her, it's hard to explain. But I do believe, however messed up our current justice system is, and I do believe it's messed up, if found guilty by a jury of peers, she needs to do her time.

However, I feel the most sorrow for Caylee. She didn't deserve to be dumped like trash.

I've had strangely maternal feelings towards Casey at times. I guess partly because I just want to understand what happened and why...like if I could, I'd reach out to her, like I reach out to my own children and say "talk to me." And on the other hand, I do NOT want her to get away with the murder I feel she committed.

No one--including maryann, wants or expects anyone to leave the thread.

Isn't that odd? With the technology we have today, you would think people would be on Facebook or Twitter talking about knowing Casey "back in the day." This is where those people that crave their 15 minutes of fame tend to come out of the woodwork but they haven't in this case.

They're probably afraid they'll get dragged into it somehow, and get vilified, esp if they ARE looking for their 15 minutes; I'm guessing it would backfire on them. I do wonder about that old friend of Casey's and the pet cemetery, and selling her story to a rag...I bet if she could have been recognized as a reliable witness, she'd offer some interesting insight into who Casey was/is. Or could she?? Can anyone? Does ANYONE know the "real" Casey? I can only imagine what her parents run through their minds...over and over and over again.

Had to share this tweet from "Judge Perry"

My lingerie party for the jury was a hit. Everyone seemed to love my one-piece ensemble


I always giggle to myself when he asks the jury about their evenings or lunch, or special delivery like he did today. He seems so please by himself that he is able to do something neat for them, he seems to genuinely have fun and enjoy his job.

Awesome tweet. And I so agree with your last line!

However the additional stuff is rather weird and suspect if you ask me. When does a customer for a BASIC (I.e. Not a Kat Von D creation) tattoo throw a pizza party? Weird and abnormal!

I got the impression, perhaps from prosecutions questioning the tattoo guy (who, BTW, I feel sorry for since so many people, including me, don't seem to like his work!) that it was party-ish atmosphere, with Casey footing the bill for the pizza.

I keep thinking of that movie, The Usual Suspects. Casey really reminds me of the character that Kevin Spacey played in that movie. If you've see that movie near the end when the police finally start putting it together, you'll know exactly what I mean.

On a different topic, I just LOVE Judge Perry. He is such a hoot. He has now moved onto my list of "People I'd Like to Eat Dinner With."

I have got to see that movie! But I don't think I can take a crime movie right now. And if I could pick a dinner guest right now, it would be Judge Perry. Or Mr George. He doesn't scare me like Linda Drane Burdick and Jeff Ashton. (Yup, I admit it...I like the prosecutors better than the defense.)

Sad story from our local news:

http://www.wndu.com/hometop/headlines/Young_boys_rescued_from_trunk_in_New_Carlisle_124109004.html

These stories just break my heart. I remember a few years ago, a story about a mother backing over one of her twins. I have NEVER backed up without a certain fear after that...of just not knowing if there's someone/something behind me.

Crap, I hate long over-quoted posts.

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[Crazy4Disney72]

I'm related by marriage to a lawyer who has worked with baez and he says he'd bet the dog that Baez is going to shock everyone and put her up there. I hear he has someone going over the questions with her already. She's being coached to act like a scared innocent child as a way to counter the grilling she's going to get from Ashton and to make the jury see her as a real person instead of just a face and name sitting there. They're going to play down the molestation accusations and use the George helped her hide the accident and that she was so sad and grief-stricken she went along with it, eventually repressing it all as if it never happened. That's why she isn't able to show emotion as a grieving mother would. Be ready for a lot of objections by both sides while she's being questioned.

Yep, this is how I think it will play out too. If opening statements aren't evidence, then somehow they have to get the supposed molestation into evidence, how else to do that except through Casey herself. She thinks she's so clever, I'm sure she thinks she can act her way right out of this, and Baez doesn't seem like he has the experience to know that this is really not a good idea.

I 100% believe Casey Anthony alone is responsible for the death and disposal of Caylee, but I have a bad feeling that she could somehow get an acquittal.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

I just want to go on record and say that Casey Anthony WILL be called to the witness stand by Jose Baez as his last witness.

Maybe we should just repeat the poll from thread #1 and see where people stand now? Back then I voted "yes" she would take the stand, and now I think she HAS TO take the stand, yet I (and commentators were saying today too) can't see her surviving Ashton's cross. Altho, maybe I'm thinking of myself...*I* wouldn't survive being questioned by Ashton! I would have been in a ball on the floor begging for forgiveness if I had been questioned by Melich, but Casey just kept spinning her tales. It will certainly be interesting to see if she does take the stand, and how that will play out.

I thought this was strange. Per WS the only photo that was added to Casey's photobucket between June 15 to July 16 that was Caylee related was this photo with a heart added:

Everything else was Tony L. or music related.

Casey DID seem to really have a thing for hearts.

Yep, this is how I think it will play out too. If opening statements aren't evidence, then somehow they have to get the supposed molestation into evidence, how else to do that except through Casey herself. She thinks she's so clever, I'm sure she thinks she can act her way right out of this, and Baez doesn't seem like he has the experience to know that this is really not a good idea.

I 100% believe Casey Anthony alone is responsible for the death and disposal of Caylee, but I have a bad feeling that she could somehow get an acquittal.

I agree with everything you said. The thing about the jury vs us is we've seen the commentators, read articles, heard proffered testimony, etc...sometimes it's hard to remember what THEY'VE heard and seen. Like today, when some of us weren't sure if the jury was there or not for Ashton's grilling of the poor bug guy.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

Wher did you hear that? Judge Perry is so in control of that courtroom, I can't believe he would allow her to have access to a cell phone.

Maybe Casey and Baez text each other, since it appears he was texting today too (per Ashton). And I'll be all sorts of polite and respectful and unbiased here and say that maybe that's just the way things are done between an attorney and the client these days, with technology being what it is.

I am SO sorry about the surgery delay! I'll bet you're upset. Well, we'll definitely be here on Tuesday for you, and throw in some extra hugs and maybe a few chuckles to keep your mind off things.

Respectfully snipped

I read about KC possibly texting at WS. So tomorrow everyone keep your eye on the Casey Cam and see if she hids it in a folder/binder to do it. If she is I think it needs to be stopped.

Didn't get to watch today and THANK YOU IRISHBOSOX for your fantastic play-by-play!! I will need your recaps Saturday and Monday too!

Might have missed this, but is the defense still going to call Vasco Thompson as a witness after what he said in his press conference?

CH--You're welcome but I'm not a morning person so you may be out of luck for tomorrow! Monday I'm free all day so you should be good!

I doubt the DT would put him on now after someone doing the research and finding out that VT didn't get that number till 2009 but after today I can't really be sure.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

I found a funny over at WS and thought you all might enjoy it!


Irish_Eyes

Who doesn't need a little humor after today's fiasco?

TOP TEN JB COURTROOM TEXTS:

10: @icaseyomarie Yes, Juror 10 does have nice eyes, but I'm in the middle of questioning this witness, can we do this later?

9: @PocketSquares.com Thanks for reminding me. I actually mailed that check yesterday. I swear.

8: @OrangeCoLibrary Sorry to bother you again. Can I also have the definition for "specious" ? Thanks.

7: @Zynga.com I just got up to do a cross examination, and when I sat back down at my computer, all my Texas HoldEm chips were gone. Can you look into this for me?

6: @GeraldoRivera: Cool, bro. See you there. Hey, I've been meaning to ask you, what kind of gel do you use?

5: @DogPsychics.com I don't care if he doesn't like the car, my butt is on the line here and I'm running out of options, so you'd better make sure Scruffy is available for deposition tomorrow.

4: @ABCBachelorette: I know! Shocker! I can't believe she sent West home and kept Ryan! Whatever!

3: @Cheney Mason: Yeah, him. Third row, blue shirt, nerdy looking. Ask him if he's a chemist. Where's a freaking chemist when you need one?

2: @icaseyomarie For the tenth time, no, I will NOT ask if Juror 10 is free in 2031. And get out of my chair.

1: @JeffAshton I know you are, but what am I. Hahahahaha!


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140765&page=2

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

You certainly are welcome to stay on this thread, but it's your choice, if you don't feel welcome. I've been on the DIS for over 10 years, and there have certainly been threads where I have not felt welcome. I made the choices that felt comfortable for me.

Let me just clarify because re-reading this, it sounded *****y to me. I've felt unwelcome, or uncomfortable, on threads not necessarily because anyone made me feel that way. There are threads where my opinions are in the minority, and I've chosen to 1) not care and express them anyway, 2) stay away from those particular aspects of the topic and keep posting about other things, or 3) just remove myself from the discussion. There's one particular thread where I chose option #3, and thinking about it, no one ever specifically made me feel not welcome there, altho my opinions were very much in the minority. I don't recall anyone welcoming my opinions with loving open arms, but rather just expressing their own opinions as strongly. And yup, there were plenty more of theirs than mine, so it just wasn't worth it to me. No biggie. But that was my choice, in that particular situation. It doesn't have to be anyone else's.