Casey Anthony TRIAL THREAD #1

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Forgive me, I don't know... Was Casey bonded out? I understand she bonded out for one night at one point before being re-arrested.... was she up for bond again only didn't have the money and has stayed in? The last three years was their potential for bond?

As for how this woman kept her details straight, I have no idea, I cannot remember my own relatives information in such depth... I need lessons I suppose...

Somehow I still have this feeling they will come back as not guilty as with OJ.... Maybe it will be like Scott Peterson with the death penalty... I feel trepidation over it.

Leonard Padilla (black cowboy hat) posted her bond as long as she helped to find Caylee. She never did help and he never did revoke the bond. She was subsequently arrested for the theft charges and then while their, they were able to keep her there once evidence built up over Caylee's case, IIRC.

I have the OJ feeling as well--but so far, as evidence gets presented, all it does is provide more and more reasonable doubt to their theory.

 

[Uncle Remus]

Probably because it was all a lie and irrelevant at this point beyond that she was lying.

It also may be why the child neglect charges are included. But I Am not sure.

I know what you're sayin', but I'm thinkin' the detectives wanted to give Casey enough rope to hang herself, especially after Melich gave her every opportunity to explain Caylee's death by accident.

Gawd, I'm not sure I can watch much more of Casey at this point, but I have to admit I'm fascinated with her, she's a real true psychopath.

 

[plutotek]

I was just reading Richard Hornsby's blog and he brings out a good point and one which makes me nervous about his trial. There is a big possibility that Casey can file an appeal based on inneffective counsel. Baez has repeatedly missed deadlines, makes cross examination erros, doesn't file motions on time. I wonder if Judge Perry will just allow it in order to avoid more for this possiblity.

That's what I've been saying since opening statements. However, I think the experience of co-counsel might mitigate the issue. I don't think anyone can be that naturally inadequate.

 

[NCRedding]

I was just reading Richard Hornsby's blog and he brings out a good point and one which makes me nervous about his trial. There is a big possibility that Casey can file an appeal based on inneffective counsel. Baez has repeatedly missed deadlines, makes cross examination erros, doesn't file motions on time. I wonder if Judge Perry will just allow it in order to avoid more for this possiblity.

It really does look like he isn't doing a very good job. However, I have reviewed cases involving allegations of "ineffective assistance", and it is not an easy burden to meet. My favorite was a case out of Texas in the mid 80s where the Texas courts held that even though the lead attorney "slept through approximately 60% of his client's murder trial", that was not ineffective assistance of counsel.

 

[Kurby]

It really does look like he isn't doing a very good job. However, I have reviewed cases involving allegations of "ineffective assistance", and it is not an easy burden to meet. My favorite was a case out of Texas in the mid 80s where the Texas courts held that even though the lead attorney "slept through approximately 60% of his client's murder trial", that was not ineffective assistance of counsel.

seriously?????



what if a jury member sleeps through 60% LOL

 

[ilovepete]

Maybe he didn't miss the deadline. Maybe he didn't, at that time, want the tapes not to be shown, because back then they didn't have the drowning defense, and were still going with the kidnapping thing. So he didn't object because he wanted those seen, and now that that has changed, he wants them edited out.

 

[LisaR]

It really does look like he isn't doing a very good job. However, I have reviewed cases involving allegations of "ineffective assistance", and it is not an easy burden to meet. My favorite was a case out of Texas in the mid 80s where the Texas courts held that even though the lead attorney "slept through approximately 60% of his client's murder trial", that was not ineffective assistance of counsel.

I just read a couple books about some death penalty cases. In one of them, the lead attorney slept through parts of the trial and when the defendant tried to get a new attorney, the judge said he couldn't because his attorney probably wasn't sleeping through the important parts! The defendant was eventually put to death.

 

[chris1gill]

Leonard Padilla (black cowboy hat) posted her bond as long as she helped to find Caylee. She never did help and he never did revoke the bond. She was subsequently arrested for the theft charges and then while their, they were able to keep her there once evidence built up over Caylee's case, IIRC.

I have the OJ feeling as well--but so far, as evidence gets presented, all it does is provide more and more reasonable doubt to their theory.

How long was she actually out and how long has she been back in?

 

[Disney_Dreaming]

Top 10 Lies of Casey Anthony:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/casey-anthony-top-10-lies-13747027

 

[DWGal210]

Top 10 Lies of Casey Anthony:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/casey-anthony-top-10-lies-13747027

Wowzer - to see it in those clips is really chilling. What a monster.

 

[usnuzuloose]

How can any person claim Casey is greiving? As Perry said greving comes after you find a body. During the interview with the detectives Casey says she spoke with Caylee and she was fine. So how can you grieve if your child is alive and fine and speaking to you? Did baez forget about just hearing that?

 

[Seahunt]

Top 10 Lies of Casey Anthony:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/casey-anthony-top-10-lies-13747027

It's funny to me that this is from ABC News because they had previously paid $200,000 to Casey for photos and video of Caylee

Were you stunned by the $200,000 that ABC paid to Casey Anthony for photos and video?

Network insiders were, too.

The licensing of such material is a standard industry practice. But the usual amount is far less, said several network insiders who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The more likely sum is $5,000 to $10,000, one said.

Networks pay such amounts for several reasons. They want the images to help tell the story in a visual medium, and they’re asking people to give up rights to photos and footage for eternity.

The money paid to Anthony, long rumored and confirmed by Anthony attorney Jose Baez in court Thursday, was “absurd and troubling,” said one insider.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...-200000-to-casey-anthony-and-gained-what.html

 

[sorcerormickey]

What? Not everyone grieves like this?

The photos of her at this party are the ones that make me the most angry. Yeah, I killed my kid/my kid is 'missing' but sure, I'll attend a party where NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO WEAR CLOTHES!

Watch Casey checking out the cute deputy in this video

http://youtu.be/4Mgev4NnUNA

I guess old habits die hard

I really wish I could use the words I do IRL to describe her, but I would be kicked off the DIS instantly.

 

[diznygirl]

MaryAnn got me thinking - I think we need to get this for the duration of the trial.....

 

[Conservative Hippie]

Everyone's getting in on the twitter fun... @DickTracyOrlndo and @ZannyTheeNanny

DickTracyOrlndo
This would be funny if there weren't a dead child. #CaseyAnthony

If we forget about Caylee and make it all about Casey, Casey wins.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

What? Not everyone grieves like this?

Maybe that's normal, and what the rest of us do when we grieve is crazy.

That's what I've been saying since opening statements. However, I think the experience of co-counsel might mitigate the issue. I don't think anyone can be that naturally inadequate.

That's what I was thinking.

MaryAnn got me thinking - I think we need to get this for the duration of the trial.....

That's what I need!

BTW...THIS THREAD WILL BE CLOSED AT ABOUT 250 PAGES which I suspect will be today, Friday. I'll start a new one with a link to here (and the jury selection thread), and vice versa, and transfer all the pertinent info and links from the first post. Also...at some point add a new poll. Any suggestions? I think we'll get through at least a couple more threads before approaching the end of this trial and having a poll asking "guilt or not guilty".

 

[woodkins]

Side bar:

Wouldn't have believed such a thing happens in real life and it just did!

A neighbor found a child roaming the neighborhood whose family knew she was missing, but didn't report it or go looking for her. From the time my neighbor spotted her, my 3 calls to 911 (due to confusion--the girl had a handful of mail from a house that ended up not being her house--so she stole mail, too!), the police showing up and us finally doing our best to help her find her house (She spoke no English, was afraid of the officers and did not know her address)--an hour had elapsed.

When we finally found her house--you would have thought we were door to door sales man trying to sell them a vacuum. They were so indifferent.

When the officer came back to my house to pick up his car--he let us know that the mother was going to jail. My neighbor, since she found her would get a subpoena to testify.


I just don't get it.

The reason they did not report her missing or look for her: They were afraid.


It has been over 2 hrs...and the other police car is still in front of my house.

Girl was only about 4-5 years old.

They were probably afraid because one or more of them may have immigration issues. Also, many parents wouldn't call the police if a child is "missing" for an hour or two. I am a crazy mom & we live outside NYC so I am hypre vigilant, but I know of friends in other states that are more rural who let even their 4-5 year olds go off bike riding etc. on their own for hours at a time.

 

[EMom]

It really does look like he isn't doing a very good job. However, I have reviewed cases involving allegations of "ineffective assistance", and it is not an easy burden to meet. My favorite was a case out of Texas in the mid 80s where the Texas courts held that even though the lead attorney "slept through approximately 60% of his client's murder trial", that was not ineffective assistance of counsel.

That is actual case. It is incredibly difficult to be granted an appeal based on ineffective assistance of counsel, let alone win an appeal. Having a sucky attorney isn't usually enough. And let's not forget....Baez is NOT her only attorney.

As for her "unusual" behavior and pathological lying being caused by molestation.....I call BS on that. She acted and continues to act in a perfectly normal fashion....for a SOCIOPATH!!!!!

 

[EMom]

I have had another dark thought over the past few years, to do with Casey hiding her pregnancy until her 7th month. A friend of hers has said that once Casey announced her pregnancy, she also expressed an interest in adoption and this friend was looking into adopting Caylee. I believe the story goes that Cindy would have none of this.

I have wondered.....if Casey had been able to hide that pregnancy for just two more months, would anyone have EVER known about the baby? Or would Caylee have been another newborn who wound up in a dumpster?

 

[Conservative Hippie]

Found this on a board about Narcissistic Personality Disorder from a poster "warkittens":

What I found intriguing about the phone call she allegedly received from Caylee is how Casey portrays Caylee as talking about her shoes and a story she is reading. As the detectives point out-Caylee, if this story is true, has not seen her mother for 5 weeks but shows no dismay, tears or whatever over missing her mother. The thing is-this is Casey's fantasy of course-and I think the reason she can spin it this way, is because that is how SHE feels-she has no feeling for anyone. She doesn't know what it means to "miss" someone, to care, to love, to be close and to relate--no empathy at all.

I thought that was very telling, and I bet Casey was not expecting the detective to pick up on that detail. Caylee is fine on the phone means she is ok, the hunt is still on, the charade can continue, and Casey had no idea it would sound strange to other people.