Carthay Circle seating for WOC??? How was it?

[JadeDarkstar]

i know some ppl who leave no tip at all the tip i leave will be what ever my family and I choose 7% is budgeted if i add more fine if not i wont be pressured in to it by any one. you should be more respectful on these boards to any one not just me. This is the friendly side of the dis. Welcome and please try to stay on the nice side or many here will not be so welcoming.

thank you now if i add another 4 bucks to my planed tip that will make it 15 % and ill do that if i can other wise they will be happy with the 7% the cm on the phone said was better then nothing and most ppl leave nothing at all this is what she was telling me today 5% is the least that any one leaves but some leave none 7% is apreciated is how she worded it that's on top the 7.75 tax for the already high priced meal

 

[sand2270]

Respect goes two ways and leaving your server 15-20% at a minimum is a respectful tip. Leaving 7% is cheap and disrespectful. Don't eat at table service if you can't show your servers that level of respect.

(kinda overused the word respect but you get my drift)

 

[sonnyjane]

Respect goes two ways and leaving your server 15-20% at a minimum is a respectful tip. Leaving 7% is cheap and disrespectful. Don't eat at table service if you can't show your servers that level of respect.

(kinda overused the word respect but you get my drift)

Jade, I'm sorry but I have to agree. We had this conversation with you before in an earlier thread. If you can't afford to tip the proper amount, then you really shouldn't go out to dinner. 7% is really a slap in the face to your server. I'd want to warn them in advance! It's just not fair.

 

[JadeDarkstar]

ill leave 10% then no matter what but only 15 if its like grate service.

 

[Mary09]

Most people in America do not leave nothing or 5%, I don't care what the CM told you. People in America who dine out know that 15% is a customary minimum for passable service. Budgeting 7% is cheap and rude. If you can't afford the service, you can't afford the restaurant. If $4 makes a difference to your budget you should not be eating there.

 

[lurpee]

Just FYI, the Federal Government bases their auditing benchmarks as 8% of sales. That means the government is saying "we know you make at least this". So, for every $100 spent, it is assumed that they made $8. If a restaurant's claimed tips fall below 8% it is a supposed guaranteed red flag to the IRS and the servers can be "allocated"--the gov decides what it's been shorted , adds the fines, and then it is divided between all the servers to pay. In my restaurant if a server is making below 15% they are reviewed and can be let go as it is considered a performance indicator.

 

[TheZue]

Most people in America do not leave nothing or 5%, I don't care what the CM told you. People in America who dine out know that 15% is a customary minimum for passable service. Budgeting 7% is cheap and rude. If you can't afford the service, you can't afford the restaurant. If $4 makes a difference to your budget you should not be eating there.

I was thinking the same thing...it's a $100 meal and you are so close in your budgeting that four dollars is a big deal....save the $100 and have a more comfortable trip. I seriously can't imagine having to budget to the dollar and at the same time putting that much money into one meal.

We've done the budget trip thing in the past so I get that. And like all the other threads have said this is not a guaranteed good view for WOC so I think if you are budgeted to the point $4 matters you'd be better off with the fast pass

 

[Harold]

That $4 would be equivalent to $52.80 in 1923 dollars. So just avoid restaurants in Tomorrowland, and you should be fine!

 

[RaceCar]

People need to remember, too, that servers are required to give a percentage of their SALES to non-waiting staff (like bussers, etc.). This is sometimes called a "tip-share". If the server only gets half of their expected tip from a customer, they still need to give the full amount of tip-share to everyone else. The means the server takes an even deeper blow from bad tippers, while bussers, etc. are better protected.

 

[Mazel]

I truly didn't mean to open a can of worms. Where we live wait staff makes under $3 an hour. Their money comes from tips. If I was ever given a 7% tip I would have been upset and wondered what I did wrong.

I waitressed when I was younger and it was a long hard job. I have to agree with others, if someone cannot afford to give at least the minimum amount tip for good service, then they really shouldn't be eating out. I know when we eat out if we've had good service I always over tip, but that's because I've BTDT.

Jade I don't know who told you 5% or no tip, but that is such wrong information.

 

[Swan4Me]

ill leave 10% then no matter what but only 15 if its like grate service.

Actually great service deserves 20%

I can not imagine leaving such a little tip-how can anyone in this day and age think that is ok?

 

[nunzia]

I agree. Disney prices are very competitive in the industry (theme parks/entertainment) and typically the quality is improved upon the competition.

Re: the service offered at the restaurants - my wife has insight into that as she was a manager of a resturant for many years prior the chemical spill that disabled her. I admit that it frustrates me when we eat out that she will critque the methods used by the staff. While at DLR, she didn't find much to fault with the service.

At Blue Bayou, the only thing she noticed was that the host seating the tables would seat many tables at the same time. This can cause the kitchen to get backed up as tables that are seated together often stay in sync with ordering. Of course the tradeoff is that if the host waits to seat to spread things out, you have fewer people going through and more of a wait to be seated.

At Carthay the only thing negative she commented on is that the server covered many tables where he lost line of sight on them as he went behind walls and outside. It makes it harder for them to stay on top of things.

At WCT, our only complaint was the hard walls that reflected all of the noise of the very loud obnoxious guests in the corner of the room back at us.

I was also a Restaurant Manager and if I could stand either place where Disney has a park would love to work for them. The Blue Bayou servers are fine and I'm sure the Carthay servers will improve. My observations..servers we had both visits semed like they were playing at being upscale servers..they tried too hard to make stilted conversation, they did not explain any menu items or give ideas on what we might like, it took forever to have our order taken..tables that came in after us were taken care of before us, water was not refilled and even after asked about was forgotten. It wasn't known who ordered what upon delivery. We were seated by the open kitchen and server station and there was too much pal-ing around and talking going on. Still...Carthay is my new favorite go to place..

ps..on the tip discussion..in NM servers are paid in the $2.00 an hour range since the tips only need to bring them up to minimum wage..ridiculous yes. I hope Disney doesn't make servers pool tips..hate that practice. As for the amount..I agree that 15% is minimum. I almost always give 20% except at buffets.

 

[sonnyjane]

I want to point out that I don't think this should turn into the typical "I tip more and am therefore better" thread that it usually does, but I do hope that Jade comes back and reads these comments.

I think that, based on this thread and other threads where Jade has asked about tipping, she just legitimately isn't aware of what is standard in sit-down restaurants. Jade, I think that you being told by a CM that "7% is better than nothing" is true, because, 7% is better than 0%, however it really is true today, based on my experience in restaurants and the experience of many of my friends that are servers also that anything less than 15% (unless you had really poor service) is not enough. If it really comes down to just a few extra dollars for you, I really, really, really hope you can scrape up a couple of bucks to leave a proper tip. If not, then I really sincerely think that you should skip Carthay. It's not because you don't deserve to go, but if things are so tight that you can't pay for the meal and the standard tip comfortably, then your trip will probably be more pleasurable with the extra money in your pocket.

I also feel that if you already go into a dining experience expecting to overpay and be treated with poor service, you're going to get exactly the experience that you expect.

I hope you take our comments to heart. I just don't want your poor server to bust their butt for your family only to get a 7% or even 10% tip. That's not fair when it's half of what they should normally get.

 

[JadeDarkstar]

ill give 10 or 15 but the service better be good if it sucks nope not going to even try for the 15 THE CM is the one who told me 7% so take it up with the cms on the phone

Then again as we have said recently the cms know nothing any more. It seems Lynn was right in that post. cm's know nothing dis knows more than they ever do.
Dont know why she said 7% but she did so I really thought ok fine that works.

but fine ill budget another 10bucks for tip just in case its good service

 

[Mr Snappy]

Maybe you are from another country?

Here is some useful informaion from a NON-DISNEY site...

http://www.vidaamericana.com/english/tipping.html

How To Tip

For employees in some service industries it is common and expected practice to offer a tip on top of the bill as long as service is not below average. Following are some common tipping guidelines:

waiters: 15-17% of bill before tax, 20% at a 5-star restaurant or for large parties (at a fancy restaurant check to make sure service is not included in the bill)
taxi drivers: 15% of total bill, no less than 25 cents
hairdressers: 15%
shampooer: $1-$2
pizza deliveryperson: $1-2 for short distance, $2-3 for longer distance
airport skycap - $1-2 per bag
bellhop: $10 for carrying luggage, $5 for showing you to your room
room service: 15% of the bill
furniture delivery - $5-10 minimum, up to $20 for very heavy or large items
Useful Links:

For more info, visit Tipping.org, a complete web guide to tipping.

 

[WebmasterMaryJo]

This thread went off topic, and I think people made their point. I would just like to remind people to be courteous when posting.

I'm going to go ahead & close this thread now.