Carpets-What should I know?

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I want to buy wall to wall carpet for a bedroom, what should I ask the salesman? What should I know about weight, durability, stain resistant types, padding etc?


I have 2 cats who, once in a while, throw up. I also have an office type chair that I use in there and I have a mat for it that should be helpful in saving wear & tear on the carpet.
 
In my last house we had a dark green carpet. Every bit of light colored pet hair showed on the carpet. In this house we have a light brown carpet and every stain shows. I miss my dark green carpet because at least I could vacuum before company came and my rugs looked great. Sorry can't help beyond colors.
 
Two words: Stainmaster carpet.

We have an old poodle who occasionally vomits during the night, leaving big yellow stains. We had to have the whole upstairs re-carpeted last fall when he had a blow-out in my DD16s room--it was a toxic waste dump; she couldn't even go in her room for a week. That was the nastiest tear-out I have ever done.

We decided to go with a light creamy beige, fairly dense carpet with a good pad. Minky has vomited about 4 times(don't worry, we're on the vomiting) and we just hit the spots with REsolve carpet cleaner and that does the trick. No odor and no color left in the carpet.
 
I have run of the mill cream colored carpet. I had a carpet cleaner come in and the main hallway still has "stains" from every day wear and tear. The cleaner said that it's because it's a polyester blend and the polyester blends are extremely hard, if not impossible to clean. I don't remember exactly what make-up of carpeting he said to get, but he did say burburs are good. However, I am going to be replacing my carpet within the next week and would go with PP's opinion of getting stainmaster; that is unless you like to change your carpet often.
 

Get a good pad - an upgraded pad is less expensive than an upgraded carpet, but you can feel the difference.
 
Don't get a pad that is too thick for your carpet. The carpet will wear out much faster if you do. Everyone wants super thick luxurious feeling pads, but too thick isn't good.

The more often you vaccuum, especially in high traffic areas, the longer your carpet will last. Dirt in the carpet wears it down.
 
We just replaced all the carpet in our house. After a few months of research, we bought the HomeDepot line of their top rated Stainmaster and added an 8# pad. It was the best bang for our buck. Not a ton of color choices but the price point beat anything else out there and I love the color we chose. It is a low pile super soft carpet, very dense, brown with black flecks. We too have cats that yack and that was one of the factors in the color we chose.

We have already had several cat episodes and you would never know.

Prior to this we had a white tight looped berber. I loved our berber but unless one goes with wool, the berbers by and large are not as highly rated as many of the other carpets available. Our berber was a pain in the butt to keep clean, had PH balancing issues etc. It also is not as soft underfoot and no where near as squishy.
 
We are shopping for new carpet for our basement, so I am curious what will be said here!
 
Okay, been there done that...
Had wall-to-wall replaced in our house.

First, do not go to Lowes!!!!

Here is the lowdown -

PADDING - The padding is MORE important than you think. the cheap stuff can just disintegrate. The cheap stuff will not be good for the life of your new carpet.

Our old carpeting was a medium so-so quality installed by the contractor who built our home. We had it for over a dozen years!!! Better than anyone would have thought. When they took up this old carpet, the padding underneath was still in fair shape too.

Our new carpeting, installed from Lowe's, I can already tell is of a lower quality-durability... It still looks great, of course, but we can already tell that the padding underneath is way less than when it started out, after a couple years.

CRUSHING - I have heard that the true measure of a carpets quality and durability is the crush resistant factor. I believe that most carpets will have a 'crush rating' (under different names, of course) Of course, you cannot really compare the crush rating of a carpet by one manufacturer with the different rating scale of another. But, this along with the padding mentioned above, are two of the most important things to look for. Look for the number of years supposedly guaranteed against crushing and matting.

In our new carpet, the 'crush factor' is not nearly as good as the old.... How you can tell???? When I move furniture, such as dining room chairs, there are semi-permanent marks (crush holes), where this was never a problem with our older carpet. The spot where my son's chair is, which he uses all the time, sits there for home-schooling, etc... is definately permanently 'crushed'. You know, if this is something that you want to be concerned about - bring home the samples, and set something on them for a day or two.... Then remove the heavy items, and see which holds up, and rejuvenates the best.

TWIST - Our old carpet had more of a 'twist'... This is the amount of permanent 'twist' to the actual yarns/fibers. This, in addition to a slightly higher quality of fiber, meant that crushing was not a big problem in our old carpeting, even though it was only a medium so-so price and grade of carpet.

STAINS - You can look for something like 'StainMaster'. And from reputable maker, that might actually be a plus. But, take most claims for stain resistance with a grain of salt. Your carpet can also be treated with the ScotchGuard spray for carpets - available at many places.

FIBERS - Polyester is the cheapest, and, if I am remembering correctly, it can also sometimes be the more stain resistant. (think of how clothing with polyester releases and cleans stains better than many other fabrics/fibers) Nylon is considered to be 'softer' and has many other claims to fame. However, I decided that having 'nylon' was not the make or break factor for me. You might also want to ask a trusted person at your reputable carpet dealer about 'fading' with the nylons. I could be remembering wrong, but especially in my home where the morning sun streams in my big sliding door, bay windows, etc... I am thinking that polyester is more resistant to fading.

WEIGHT - Yes, to me, I wanted, and chose, a carpet with a slightly heaver weight. But, technically, weight is not everything... While you do not want a cheap 'light-weight' carpet... you do not necessarily want to think you should choose a truly super-dense heavy-weight carpet.

Bottom line, after having been there done that - I had narrowed our carpet down to two choices... one from Lowe's and one from a local carpet dealership. I chose Lowe's. I wished I hadn't. While I, personally, like the fact that I chose the more heavy-weight carpet... The other carpet was probably the far better choice as far as durability, crushing, etc... And, Lowe's installed what I now consider to be inferior padding.... The dealership was offering, for a bit more in price, the complete top of the line padding... looked more like a rubber utility doormat, with a smooth dark finish, not the kind made out of chunks of foam.

Also, that carpet was probably the better carpet, even though it wasn't as heavy/dense - I can't remember the maker, but it is the one where the carpet has an additional fabric backing.

I do have the info on the carpet that I chose... (which may NOT have been the best after all)

Maker - MOWHAWK
Name - Artloom (from Lowe's)
Fiber - P.E.T Polyester
Stain - Scotchguard Stain Protector and Stain Release
Density - 4680 (65 oz. weight)

Hope this helps!

Twist - 5.0 - 4.8


PS: No home with carpeting, and especially one with pets, should be without a good carpet cleaner.
After having rented them in the past, we went to Nautavac website and purchased a refurbished unit.
I don't know what I ever did without it!!!!!
 
like most things...you really do get what you pay for...

but cheap carpet, you get cheap carpet...

You only have to pay for quality once...
 
I think with cats you need to keep in mind that as they age they get destructive so you are probably going to have to replace it more than once. Because of this I think a moderate carpet with good backing is the way to go. I don't remember exactly but I think I got a base that was fluid resistant so if the cats ever mess it wouldn't seep into the sub floors, (that is a total nightmare). As for color, I say don't go with something exotic because it won't stand up to repeated washings if your cat 'chooses' a spot. In my experience a nice middle of the road medium shade taupe/beige hides everything. My carpets cost about $4K total from Lowes with that installation pay in 1 year deal and we did 2 rooms on the bottom floor, the steps, the upstairs hallway and the master bedroom. I'm happy with it. When I went I chose a medium cut pile carpet where my nails didn't sink through to the bottom easily when I spread them out pointedly. Too thick to me meant too expensive for a house full of pets and kids who, I expect, will eventually ruin it. But too cheap means it will shed fibers too easily and the rug would look worn in a few years.

Of course, everyone has their own opinions and this is just mine. Good luck!
 
Thanks for the info.

I have such a headache. Who would have thought it would be so difficult to choose carpet. I knew what color I wanted, at least I thought I did until I saw the different shades. I narrowed it down to about 4. Read up about carpets last night & found that nylon is suggested as the best. Went back to one of the stores today with DH & saw that the 2 I liked there are polyester. Salesman, nice guy, not pushy, said it's PET polyester, made from plastic bottles, as good as nylon. So I put down a deposit. Come home & look up PET, says it sheds faster & attracks oily stains.

I would like to take my time & look around but we had a pipe leak & the plumber put holes in 4 different rooms looking for the leak. Now the holes have to be repaired & they are coming tomorrow - they'll have to paint the rooms after replacing the sheetrock or whatever the walls are. So I wanted to pick out a paint color & thought it would be easier to match paint to carpet rather than the other way around.

Now I don't know what to do. Just for this 12x15 room he estimated the carpet & install at over $900.00. Looking up nylon online was upwards of $1,300.00.

I'm so confused. :sad2::confused3:crazy2:

The other carpet store had nylon & it was going to cost about $685.00. Now I'm wondering why so much less? Maybe the padding is lousy. Oh, my head.
 
Ohhh, yes I didn't mention the so called 'shedding' that the salesman mentioned....

Here is the deal... even this carpet is not going to 'shed' forever and become threadbare.

The deal is that the standard cheaper carpets are not 'long continuous fiber'.... This is what means that there will be short 'loose' fibers... Yes, our carpet 'shedded' some when it was new. And, you could tell that the vac was picking up more carpet 'fuzz'. Since then - no problem.

Yes, the long continuous fibers are better - but, again, that would not be a dealbreaker... especially if trying to be cost-conscience.

Yes, it is better, but that does not mean that carpets without this claim to fame are bad. they are not.

Again, a good padding, a good crush-resistance rating/guarantee, are the two big things to look for.

If I were building my big Dream Home, I might consider the very pricey carpets.... But, do know that Polyester and non-continuous fibers do not have to mean an inferior product.

Salesmen will tell you that you need the best and latest to make double the sale.

Go by the guarantee - that will tell you if a carpet is inferior... It really is the only thing you can really go by. You can get a decent number of years guarantee without paying for the 'best'.

Also, take home the samples!!!!!!
Do the crush-test, and see which ones 'come back' the best after having something set on them overnight.... Really see the color in the rooms true lighting, etc...

PS: are your living/dining areas hard flooring???
If I were looking at shelling out nearly a grand just to do one bedroom, I would seriously be considering doing the entire house... but, of course, that's just me.

Also: Shame on them for cutting up your carpet.
Carpet is not permanently glued down.
If it was still good carpeting, I would have had it peeled back from the wall and re-layed.
 
In answer to Wishing on a Star, thanks for all your help by the way, we had most of the house recarpeted a few years ago, so at this time we only have this room to do. The plumber didn't tear up the carpet (our one kitty is doing that for us for free!!!). He just put holes in walls & ceilings in 4 different rooms looking for the cracked pipe.

We did ask for a carpet sample, he didn't have any to give us. We folded the carpet to see how much backing showed & it wasn't much - a good thing. It was decently thick, more so that the other shade I liked. I'm thinking of going back to the other store to torment myself some more now that the contractors are gone for today. The one we choose has a 10 year guarantee but I neglected to ask exactly what the guarantee covers.:rolleyes:

I can't make decisions on where to eat dinner for 30-40 bucks, how am I supposed to make a decision this costly?
 
Do you have the maker and the name of the carpets written down...

I wonder if all the information on the ones you are looking at could be accessed online???

PS: if you are not in a huge hurry, many places will be able to obtain the door-mat sized samples for you. A place like Lowe's might not... but most dedicated carpet distributers can.

Good Luck deciding!!!!

And, remember, if it's just the one room - so big of a deal... pick one you like, no worries!!!!
 


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