Can anyone CONFIRM elimination of non-expiring tickets tomorrow?

[mackeymouse4eva]

I bought 6-day NE tickets from UT several months ago for this trip and I was hoping to add more days at the park this Wednesday, so the timing of this change is really disappointing. I might still ask if here's a way to make them 10-day NE tickets, but I'm not holding my breath...

AMIE416- could you possibly update us with your results on upgrading your ticket this week? It appears that you are the only one dealing with this dilemma that is traveling in the VERY near future (well among this thread). Of course we all know that results may vary, but it would be nice to know what guest relations solution to this is. I'm assuming you were going to use the UCT ticket at least once, have it price bridged , and then upgraded? I did buy a 10 day PH WP non expiring ticket, but had considered getting a "lesser" ticket and later upgrading. The official elimination of non-exp's has made me wonder, can they bridge & upgrade a product that no longer exists. I'm sure they can, but will they.?

I'm sure you will have NO problem, especially because you are traveling so near to this new scenario. I'm sure they have procedures in place to accommodate guests such as yourself , I just wonder how long they will continue to do that for?

 

[Minniekins]

I bought 6-day NE tickets from UT several months ago for this trip and I was hoping to add more days at the park this Wednesday, so the timing of this change is really disappointing. I might still ask if here's a way to make them 10-day NE tickets, but I'm not holding my breath...

I am very interested to see if you are able to upgrade these tickets now! It would be much appreciated by me, (and I'm sure, other dissers, as well!), if you were able to report back here if you are successful in upgrading and bridging these tickets! Good luck! And, either way, have a magical vacation!

eta: just saw after this post after I also posted same request!

 

[Minniekins]

AMIE416- could you possibly update us with your results on upgrading your ticket this week? It appears that you are the only one dealing with this dilemma that is traveling in the VERY near future (well among this thread). Of course we all know that results may vary, but it would be nice to know what guest relations solution to this is. I'm assuming you were going to use the UCT ticket at least once, have it price bridged , and then upgraded? I did buy a 10 day PH WP non expiring ticket, but had considered getting a "lesser" ticket and later upgrading. The official elimination of non-exp's has made me wonder, can they bridge & upgrade a product that no longer exists. I'm sure they can, but will they.?

I'm sure you will have NO problem, especially because you are traveling so near to this new scenario. I'm sure they have procedures in place to accommodate guests such as yourself , I just wonder how long they will continue to do that for?

Yes, I am wondering what to do as well. I just found the 6 day park hopper wpf&m non expiring back on the UCT site Sunday afternoon, after i noticed it had suddenly disappeared when I was buying other tickets from UCT on Sat. I was very excited and quickly bought the 6 day NE pass as it saved $73 dollars! DD24 was planning on using it to upgrade to an AP on her late Sep trip. Now I'm wondering if that was a mistake and just not sure what to do! I'm leaning toward calling UCT and returning that ticket and getting something that's not non expiring, just in case! Not if I'm overreacting or not. I'd hate for DD24 to be stuck with a ticket she needs to upgrade to an AP (and to be able to buy a TIW card, you need the AP), but can't upgrade anymore because it's NE. Wondering what other dissers might do, though it doesn't sound like others are having this problem so much. I also feel like I need to decide pretty quick before they get my order I placed Sun, all set to mail out, and don't want to change my order to a different ticket!

 

[amie416]

Will do. It is possible that the CMs will have some way to make the transition away from NE tickets smoother, but I'm not expecting to be able to add NE days to my ticket. It seems more likely that they'd let one upgrade to an AP though. As my momma told me, "You won't get anything if you don't ask for it."

 

[minniemous]

The $365 price is for 10 days that have to be used within 14 days of the first use. The $710 for 10 days nonexpiring are for 10 days that can be used any time in the future.

This is what I was thinking. If I had the knowledge about the non-expriing tickets a long, long time ago (and the money) it would have been good to take advantage and purchase a large sum of them. Personally, it would make no sense for us to purchase the tickets. We are going frequently now with a child and we go for 10 days one time a year and I just can not see how it would be beneficial to us. We would have to purchase a stack of NE tickets to put away for years down the road in order to pay off. If I had that much money to burn then I would perhaps invest for very future vacations to Disney World.

 

[Mome Rath]

This is what I was thinking. If I had the knowledge about the non-expriing tickets a long, long time ago (and the money) it would have been good to take advantage and purchase a large sum of them. Personally, it would make no sense for us to purchase the tickets. We are going frequently now with a child and we go for 10 days one time a year and I just can not see how it would be beneficial to us. We would have to purchase a stack of NE tickets to put away for years down the road in order to pay off. If I had that much money to burn then I would perhaps invest for very future vacations to Disney World.

It wouldn't be beneficial to you. It is only beneficial to those going for short trips over a long span of time; with the hopper, you need to go less than 9 days in a calendar year for you to even get close to benefiting, unless you're using the 10 NE option to "fill in" days. At one point I used a 10 day NE over the span of 4 years or more, saved me a lot of money.

 

[elaine amj]

This is what I was thinking. If I had the knowledge about the non-expriing tickets a long, long time ago (and the money) it would have been good to take advantage and purchase a large sum of them. Personally, it would make no sense for us to purchase the tickets. We are going frequently now with a child and we go for 10 days one time a year and I just can not see how it would be beneficial to us. We would have to purchase a stack of NE tickets to put away for years down the road in order to pay off. If I had that much money to burn then I would perhaps invest for very future vacations to Disney World.

That's what I decided to do a couple of years back. Given the regular price increases I figure Disney tickets are a better investment than any stocks! So, we bought 10 day non-expiring tickets with WPF&M (and added the hopper for something like $15/ticket). Since I value waterpark tickets at $25/day, it means that to me, my 10 days of park tickets (WITH hopper) are $45/day. I felt it was the WPF&M addition that really gave the non-expiring tickets their best value since I now have 20 days of admission. Of course, if I value all 20 days equally, my admissions average $35/day.

I mostly bought them as an investment figuring the longer we wait to use them, the more value we will get. Also, we know we love Disney and we KNOW we will be back.

However, it has inspired some very short trips. e.g. In 2013, We used 1 park day before our 2013 Disney cruise and 1 waterpark day post-cruise. In 2014, we ended up with a last-minute Christmas week trip. We spent a couple of days in a nice resort and then did 2 park days. While it wasn't a "proper" Disney trip, it was very affordable fun for an expensive vacation season. We might pop in for a day or 2 over Christmas again this year in 2015. If not, we still have 7 park days and 9 WPF&M days. I anticipate these tickets to last me about 5-6 years.

Our typical WDW trips are full-on 10-12 days at WDW on-site with dining. I consider these non-expiring tickets are for the mini-vacays or tack-ons to other Orlando trips. I would absolutely hate to pay for 1-2 day park tickets normally. My dad joined us last Christmas and his 2 day hoppers cost me $250! OUCH!

I'm now debating if I should buy a 2nd set of non-expiring tickets just to have and hold for the future. Again, I would consider it part of my investment budget rather than part of my travel budget. I have a few short days to decide before everyone is out of stock of them forever.

 

[quinnc19]

Hello,
I just bought two NE tickets that I was expecting to use some unknown time in the future. I bought my daughter (7 now) an adult ticket because I was not sure when she would use it. But, I need me some springtime, so I just decided to go to WDW in April for a quick weekend trip. Does anyone know if I can assign that ticket to her, even though she is a child now? I would like to do this in MDE, so I can book Fastpasses, etc. Thanks!

 

[doconeill]

Just a reminder to those who were buying tickets direct from Disney prior to the increase and planning to use in the future (regardless of the No Expiration option) - WDW no longer price bridges tickets purchased direct at full price at the time of purchase, regardless if the ticket was used previously. So hopefully they are the right "size" if you want to preserve the savings.

 

[ninafeliz]

Just a reminder to those who were buying tickets direct from Disney prior to the increase and planning to use in the future (regardless of the No Expiration option) - WDW no longer price bridges tickets purchased direct at full price at the time of purchase, regardless if the ticket was used previously. So hopefully they are the right "size" if you want to preserve the savings.

I'm not sure I understand this. If you bought a ticket from Disney at their prices why would they need to price bridge? What am I missing? If you upgraded to a ticket with more days, wouldn't you have to pay the difference between the ticket you have and the ticket you want? Say 6 days to 8 days, or whatever. Or are you saying that somehow Disney would know you paid less for your 6 days, and make you pay the difference from your less expensive 6 day ticket to the current 8 day price, instead of the current 6 day price to the current 8 day price.

 

[doconeill]

I'm not sure I understand this. If you bought a ticket from Disney at their prices why would they need to price bridge? What am I missing? If you upgraded to a ticket with more days, wouldn't you have to pay the difference between the ticket you have and the ticket you want? Say 6 days to 8 days, or whatever. Or are you saying that somehow Disney would know you paid less for your 6 days, and make you pay the difference from your less expensive 6 day ticket to the current 8 day price, instead of the current 6 day price to the current 8 day price.

That _is_ what I'm saying.

If you purchase the ticket directly from Disney, they know exactly how much it was sold for. Prior to 2012, they still did "price bridging" for them - which means when you went to upgrade a partially-used ticket, they first did an internal procedure to bring the value of the ticket up to the current gate price, then charged you the difference. That no longer applies to separate tickets purchased directly, and you will be charged the difference from the purchase price.

This does not apply to tickets purchased as part of a package (they are considered discounted, even though internally they appear to have the same price), or through third party resellers (Disney does not have direct knowledge of what the guest paid for the ticket, only what they sold it to the reseller for which is less.)

 

[supersnoop]

I'm not sure I understand this. If you bought a ticket from Disney at their prices why would they need to price bridge? What am I missing? If you upgraded to a ticket with more days, wouldn't you have to pay the difference between the ticket you have and the ticket you want? Say 6 days to 8 days, or whatever. Or are you saying that somehow Disney would know you paid less for your 6 days, and make you pay the difference from your less expensive 6 day ticket to the current 8 day price, instead of the current 6 day price to the current 8 day price.

Exactly. Upgrading tickets that you purchased directly is only a problem if you upgrade after a price increase. While third-party tickets will be "bridged" to the current gate price, direct tickets will still be worth what you paid for them. Therefore, you're upgrade cost for direct tickets will include the price increase.

 

[JesstlovesDISNEY]

If you are a member with Working Advantage I heard they still have the non expiring tickets till March 2. My family and I go every 2 years so this is a good deal for me and my family. We just went in October and was able to link everything to our My Disney Experience account.

 

[maccagerl]

Hello,
I just bought two NE tickets that I was expecting to use sometime unknown time in the future. I bought my daughter (7 now) an adult ticket because I was not sure when she would use it. But, I need me some springtime, so I just decided to go to WDW in April for a quick weekend trip. Does anyone know if I can assign that ticket to her, even though she is a child now? I would like to do this in MDE, so I can book Fastpasses, etc. Thanks!

If your 7 yr old first uses the ticket while she is still a child, you don't have to upgrade to an adult ticket when she ages out of the child ticket.
She will still be able to use the ticket as an adult even though it is a child's ticket.
So, you might want to buy your daughter a child ticket and save the adult ticket for your own use at some future time.

 

[Robo]

If your 7 yr old first uses the ticket while she is still a child, you don't have to upgrade to an adult ticket when she ages out of the child ticket.
She will still be able to use the ticket as an adult even though it is a child's ticket.

That's not quite true.
When she ages to the point of looking older than 10 years, she will need an adult ticket.
If there are still assets left on her child's ticket at that point,
she needs to go to Guest Relations or any ticket booth and the CM will exchange the child's
ticket (free of charge) for an adult ticket with the same remaining assets as the child's ticket.

 

[quinnc19]

Thank you and Robo, also. Since I just laid out 2k for tickets, I would like to use what we have currently (although I will lose the $20 savings). Hindsight is 20/20!! I might renew her annual pass instead, which might be a larger savings in the long run.

If your 7 yr old first uses the ticket while she is still a child, you don't have to upgrade to an adult ticket when she ages out of the child ticket.
She will still be able to use the ticket as an adult even though it is a child's ticket.
So, you might want to buy your daughter a child ticket and save the adult ticket for your own use at some future time.

 

[carissa1970]

That's not quite true.
When she ages to the point of looking older than 10 years, she will need an adult ticket.
If there are still assets left on her child's ticket at that point,
she needs to go to Guest Relations or any ticket booth and the CM will exchange the child's
ticket (free of charge) for an adult ticket with the same remaining assets as the child's ticket.

I was told that you buy the ticket for the age of the child, and on the NE tickets they can use them until they are gone even if they are older.

 

[mackeymouse4eva]

That's what I decided to do a couple of years back. Given the regular price increases I figure Disney tickets are a better investment than any stocks! So, we bought 10 day non-expiring tickets with WPF&M (and added the hopper for something like $15/ticket). Since I value waterpark tickets at $25/day, it means that to me, my 10 days of park tickets (WITH hopper) are $45/day. I felt it was the WPF&M addition that really gave the non-expiring tickets their best value since I now have 20 days of admission. Of course, if I value all 20 days equally, my admissions average $35/day.

I mostly bought them as an investment figuring the longer we wait to use them, the more value we will get. Also, we know we love Disney and we KNOW we will be back.

However, it has inspired some very short trips. e.g. In 2013, We used 1 park day before our 2013 Disney cruise and 1 waterpark day post-cruise. In 2014, we ended up with a last-minute Christmas week trip. We spent a couple of days in a nice resort and then did 2 park days. While it wasn't a "proper" Disney trip, it was very affordable fun for an expensive vacation season. We might pop in for a day or 2 over Christmas again this year in 2015. If not, we still have 7 park days and 9 WPF&M days. I anticipate these tickets to last me about 5-6 years.

Our typical WDW trips are full-on 10-12 days at WDW on-site with dining. I consider these non-expiring tickets are for the mini-vacays or tack-ons to other Orlando trips. I would absolutely hate to pay for 1-2 day park tickets normally. My dad joined us last Christmas and his 2 day hoppers cost me $250! OUCH!

I'm now debating if I should buy a 2nd set of non-expiring tickets just to have and hold for the future. Again, I would consider it part of my investment budget rather than part of my travel budget. I have a few short days to decide before everyone is out of stock of them forever.

I use my non exp's essentially the way you do. We will go to MNSSHP/F&W for a long weekend or a few days during the Christmas Festivities season and only use a single day or 2. We will combine them with party tickets, or WaterParks days..maybe Seaworld or Universal. It is PERFECT if you go down a day or two before a cruise etc. I have calculated my savings between $1154-1516, based on if I had either single day hoppers or 5 2day PH trips, and adding in the WaterParks (which will last us at LEAST 5 years). I could NEVER consider going for MNSSHP and Christmas each year without it. It's great to get to experience different events/times of the year but I'm not going to take 3 ten day trips a year, and buying full price 1-2day PH tickets would eliminate these trips for me.

Like yourself, I am also considering buying a 2nd set ( ours are almost used up so I bought a another set for my 3 family members on Sat)before they are gone, and if I can do some fuzzy Disney math, and take a strong sedative, I'll probably bite the bullet and do it. They are that valuable to me...it's just SO much money out of pocket right now.

Hopefully, I'll take the plunge soon, before it is no longer an option.

 

[mackeymouse4eva]

If I DO end up buying another set of 10 day non exp PH & WP tickets ( I just bought some sat, and have WPs from previously), the park tickets will probably last me 3-4 years, BUT I'll be floating in an inner tube for the next 25 years with those WP entitlements

 

[Robo]

I was told that you buy the ticket for the age of the child, and on the NE tickets they can use them until they are gone even if they are older.

You were told confusing information.

While it is true that the child with an active non-expiring ticket (when aging out) does not need to buy a new ticket,
(s)he does need to obtain the free upgrade to an adult ticket when (s)he reaches a certain age.