calling all wdw vets... disneyland newbie here.. please help!

Pete.....I walked in your shoes 5 years ago. :)

Very knowledgable about WDW. A planner (& I LIKE to plan). I can work the parks/attractions/dining plans at WDW as good as anyone. :cool2: I asked questions here & was skeptical of what this Hydro-dude & 6-10 others was trying to tell me. By the second day of my first visit I "got it". The DLR strategies are a little different than the WDW strategies

To maximize DLR, have a plan the first 3 hours of each day. (& a general plan of what nighttime event you'll do each day).

To ENJOY DLR, have a plan the first 3 hours of each day. (smell the roses at other times)

To enjoy one's first visit (or any visit)....try to avoid crowds, which means having a plan (& be productive) the first 3 hours of each day ;).... & be prepared to zig when others are zagging (which might include "hopping" once (or maybe twice) a day. Being "productive" imo includes picking up the 3-5 FPs early that you intend to use in the evening when it's crowded.

Other comments below:



The fact that you're commenting & asking will put you ahead of 90% of the visitors.....which means you'll do just fine. :)

& you'll have a great time at Walt's Park. :hippie:

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We're heading for our first DLR trip in a little over a month and I have no plan yet! I'm interested in the ride order for Fantasy Land too. Please help!:scared1:
 
- FL / MM ride order. You mention this...where do I find it? I guess I assumed like MK, you hit Dumbo first, then Peter Pan and go from there. In brief, we arrive on Saturday evening, and Sunday is our first day. I figure being the weekend its best day to take advantage of MM hours, especially since as said before there's a good chance we'll be lying awake at 5 AM.

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I would very much appreciate that Fantasyland ride order!


We're heading for our first DLR trip in a little over a month and I have no plan yet! I'm interested in the ride order for Fantasy Land too. Please help!:scared1:
See these two threads that are focused on Magic Mornings but apply just as well to non-MM days:

"Magic Morning (Early Entry) Super Thread" by DLR29 www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1675403

"Critique of MM/EE" by Hound 109 www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1392671
 
- The Nemo Subs - most of the stuff I've read on this is its very slow loading and builds long lines, though perhaps a lot of that was when it first opened. Are you saying the lines are shorter now? You might consider it boring about I have great childhood memories of 20,000 Leagues at WDW and the idea of getting to show my DD and DW this ride, even though I know it's not the same, but the closest we'll ever get, makes it very high on my list.
Yes, FNSV has calmed down considerably over the last five years. You can often hit in the first hour of the day with 10 minute wait. In the evening it can be 10-20 minutes depending on the day.

FWIW, I think FNSV got a bit of a bum rap in 2007 when it re-opened. Expectations were sky high and FNSV could not live up to those. I was one of the critics at that time. I did not ride it again for about 3 years but have since ridden it another 4-5 times after the lines died down.

Now I find myself defending FNSV as a fun little ride and worth doing. It is not at the level of say Toy Story Midway Mania. I would put it close to and maybe a little ahead of the new Little Mermaid ride. Nice rides. Not spectacular. Make you feel good. Worth doing.

- You mention the strategy of starting in DL and then moving over to DCA in the afternoon. I am not sure that this will be as good a strategy this summer as in the past. We will be getting there a mere 5 weeks after Carsland opens. I would expect to see a large surge in popularity of people visiting DCA versus previously, especially at times that are popular for AP holders. (With a million of them out there, they can't ALL be going the first week its open.) For that reason - my thought was to focus our first day (Sunday) on DL, especially since there is much more we are interested in seeing there. We will use the MM that day, and also take advantage of FPs of course. (I typically have 4-5 sets of FPs in my pocket by noon at WDW, and that's with park opening at 9 AM, so I expect to have a full load of DL FPs by the time I start using them.) I will keep in mind if the park starts getting overly crowded that we could swing across the street for a bit.
You are quite right that once Cars Land opens and DCA starts opening its gates each day at 8AM this summer then everything changes.


- We would then on Monday hit Carsland first thing and work DCA from there, as well as do WoC that night. I suppose we could hop over to DL later that day if necessary.
I think that is a good strategy. I might be tempted though to do the following:

- Get into DCA on Sunday morning early to snag some RSR FPs and then ride it later in the day

- On Monday at DCA you will have more time to hit the new LFT and MJJ rides first thing.

Just a thought.


-I find it interesting you tell me that I shouldn't say I don't need to plan as much at DL, but also that I am overthinking it. Which should I do? Honestly, I pretty much work it by having a strategy for the first few hours of the day, and then remain flexible with the goal of getting FPs whenever I can. (Gonna miss that strategy at WDW going forward.)
I think Hound is more of the mind that if you get a good early start with FPs then it is easier to wing it. How do you know now that you won't just love, love, love Cars Land and need to go there every single day? You may or may not, but you do not need to decide now.

If one goes with the idea "Sunday is DL, Monday is DCA and then Tuesday is DL again" you lose the flexibility to just respond to what the group's sentiment is. If you instead just make sure to get off to a good start each day with FPs, know which shows you want to see, etc., then you flex. Being able to park hop whenever you want just makes this all the easier.

:wizard:
 
If one goes with the idea "Sunday is DL, Monday is DCA and then Tuesday is DL again" you lose the flexibility to just respond to what the group's sentiment is. If you instead just make sure to get off to a good start each day with FPs, know which shows you want to see, etc., then you flex. Being able to park hop whenever you want just makes this all the easier.

:wizard:

OK - first off -- thank you so much for the awesome advice. That MM thread was great - gives me the perfect order. Again, at MK, we hit Dumbo first because its so ridiculously slow and then hit PP with little wait, but I will reverse it based on your advice. Though it's not high on my priority list, it is DDs fav from WDW, we usually ride it 4-6 times down there, so I think I'll have to ride it once. Hoping after that to convince her to ride other things.

I don't want to imply that I am as structured as only to say "Sunday is DL, Monday is DCA" but my reasoning really is sound. I am very strongly inclined towards DL - of the probably top 15 things I want to see out there, 13 are at DL. Probably 17 out of the top 20 - and actually as I think it through, it might be more than that. So, while I won't say I won't hop over to DCA, I will only do it if it makes sense to me not just to do it. Your example was to get a FP for RSR on our first day first thing. But the thing is, I'm going into DL for MM hours, so I'm already in DL long before I can go to RSR for a FP. Once I'm eligible for a FP, I could run over DCA and get it for RSR. However, higher on my anticipation list than that is Indiana Jones...AND Space Mountain (your better one)....AND Roger Rabbit....AND BTMRR AND well probably everything but Star Tours. So, why would I run all the way over to the other park when what I really want to ride is right here? Yes I know its close, but if I have something I want to ride MORE right next to me, why wouldn't go over there - even if it only takes me 10 minutes back and forth? I've been waiting 20 years for a chance to ride Indiana Jones, I've only anticipated RSR for about 16 months...it can wait another day. So, perhaps if I've covered all the FP rides a DL I would then hop over and get one at DCA.

There's really probably two rides in DCA that I will need FP for the entire trip - GRR and RSR (maybe ToT). Soarin' we probably will skip completely, and California Screamin' I will go on Single Rider. That's why that first day we will likely stay in DL -> there's just so much there I wanna do over anything in DCA. Now the second day, we might do the reverse, get some FP back at DL and go back there in the afternoon.

But...I promise I will treat it all as one big park...pinky swear!
 

Long time lurker, occasional poster here and have a question kind of related to this topic.

After originally planning a Thanksgiving trip to Disneyland, due to the expected birth of an additional niece or nephew in Florida around trip time, we have decided to go to Disneyworld so they could drive up and make it a full family vacation. I consider myself a DL veteran, but none of us have ever been to WDW. This site has been a wealth of information for all our trips to DL going back to 2003 and helped me appear to be quite the expert amongst my family and friends. I was hoping there was something along the lines of Hydroguy’s guide for WDW vets going to DL, in the opposite. I went to the forums and search around for awhile, but couldn’t find anything like it.

Is there something? Can anyone point me in the right direction? I’m sure I will be posting over in the WDW side of the forums as November gets closer.

Thanks for all the help now and in the past.
 
Long time lurker, occasional poster here and have a question kind of related to this topic.

After originally planning a Thanksgiving trip to Disneyland, due to the expected birth of an additional niece or nephew in Florida around trip time, we have decided to go to Disneyworld so they could drive up and make it a full family vacation. I consider myself a DL veteran, but none of us have ever been to WDW. This site has been a wealth of information for all our trips to DL going back to 2003 and helped me appear to be quite the expert amongst my family and friends. I was hoping there was something along the lines of Hydroguy’s guide for WDW vets going to DL, in the opposite. I went to the forums and search around for awhile, but couldn’t find anything like it.

Is there something? Can anyone point me in the right direction? I’m sure I will be posting over in the WDW side of the forums as November gets closer.

Thanks for all the help now and in the past.
It really needs updating and that is next on my list of "to do's" now that I finished a dining thread for DLR - but here is a good starting point:

"An Introduction To WDW For DLR Vets" www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=16541636

:wizard:
 
Long time lurker, occasional poster here and have a question kind of related to this topic.

After originally planning a Thanksgiving trip to Disneyland, due to the expected birth of an additional niece or nephew in Florida around trip time, we have decided to go to Disneyworld so they could drive up and make it a full family vacation. I consider myself a DL veteran, but none of us have ever been to WDW. This site has been a wealth of information for all our trips to DL going back to 2003 and helped me appear to be quite the expert amongst my family and friends. I was hoping there was something along the lines of Hydroguy’s guide for WDW vets going to DL, in the opposite. I went to the forums and search around for awhile, but couldn’t find anything like it.

Is there something? Can anyone point me in the right direction? I’m sure I will be posting over in the WDW side of the forums as November gets closer.

Thanks for all the help now and in the past.

It really needs updating and that is next on my list of "to do's" now that I finished a dining thread for DLR - but here is a good starting point:

"An Introduction To WDW For DLR Vets" www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=16541636

:wizard:

As stated before, I am not a DL vet, but I AM a WDW vet. I perused HydroGuys Intro Thread, and as you expect it is a great summary with only a few very minor inaccuracys (such as saying Spectromagic is the nightly parade at MK - currently it is MSEP). From from my view, the biggest differences are these:

1) The size of WDW is massive, making getting around a major part of your day. It also means their is way more to see and do than can be done in any reasonable period of time. (We find a 9-day vacation the right length for us, not because we've seen everything we want to, but because we are at that point too tired to go on.)
2) Because of #1 and Dining Reservation requirements (if you are going to eat Table service - and especially with parties of 5 or more), the structure of your vacation is best to be planned out well in advance, as much as 180 days if you want certain meals at certain times. By "structure" I mean planning what places to go to what days, and what restaurants to eat in. If you don't care about what restaurants, that advanced planning is less critical.

There's obviously lots of stuff on these boards, but I'll just re-iterate that Hydroguy's thread looks like a brilliant place to start. My other comment would be with WDW, if you can afford it I would highly recommend staying on-site. Much like at DL, by staying off-site you can save quite a bit of money, but on-site at WDW is extremely immersive experience that you simply can't get staying off-site.
 
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Thanks for the advice - even though I sort of took over the OP thread - I think the advice applies to him to.

Because of the thread title there will be dozens of people reading this thread. Because of your knowledge of WDW, & because of your style of planning, you ask LOTS of good questions. When we answer, we're answering not only for you, but for folks who hadn't thought to ask.

So, a couple of points you bring up that I wanted to talk about:

- The Nemo Subs - most of the stuff I've read on this is its very slow loading and builds long lines, though perhaps a lot of that was when it first opened. Are you saying the lines are shorter now? You might consider it boring about I have great childhood memories of 20,000 Leagues at WDW and the idea of getting to show my DD and DW this ride, even though I know it's not the same, but the closest we'll ever get, makes it very high on my list.

The lines are nowhere what they were when it opened. But it remains a slow loader & a relatively long ride. If you were on the first boat, you'd still kill 35 min. minimum. Which is why i recommend not riding it first thing...(especially if you only have 3 days....& probably only 2 early mornings at DL). But then again, i admit I'm not a fan.

I'm a believer in HGs "rules"....i follow them....we agree on 95% of all things DLR. But Nemo is one of those we agree to disagree on. :laughing:



- FL / MM ride order. You mention this...where do I find it? I guess I assumed like MK, you hit Dumbo first, then Peter Pan and go from there. In brief, we arrive on Saturday evening, and Sunday is our first day. I figure being the weekend its best day to take advantage of MM hours, especially since as said before there's a good chance we'll be lying awake at 5 AM.

Peter Pan is first (always first) & be one of the first on. THEN Dumbo. & you know the rest. :)

The best day is the earliest possible MM day. (for lots of reasons) & Sunday is a great day. :thumbsup2 In the summer I would recommend getting to Security at 6:20 for a MM 7am opening. (you can munch Bfast at the turnstile since you're one of the first couple in line). :)



- You mention the strategy of starting in DL and then moving over to DCA in the afternoon. I am not sure that this will be as good a strategy this summer as in the past. We will be getting there a mere 5 weeks after Carsland opens. I would expect to see a large surge in popularity of people visiting DCA versus previously, especially at times that are popular for AP holders. (With a million of them out there, they can't ALL be going the first week its open.) For that reason - my thought was to focus our first day (Sunday) on DL, especially since there is much more we are interested in seeing there. We will use the MM that day, and also take advantage of FPs of course. (I typically have 4-5 sets of FPs in my pocket by noon at WDW, and that's with park opening at 9 AM, so I expect to have a full load of DL FPs by the time I start using them.) I will keep in mind if the park starts getting overly crowded that we could swing across the street for a bit.

You're right. Carsland will likely change everything. The 3 things that will affect touring strategies most will be the new hours of DCA, the MM being offered & the AP offerings. Once these items are KNOWN, the strategies of those who post often here will be Conventional Wisdom within a week.

But it won't change the big picture strategy of getting to one of the parks early (every day), & possibly hopping when THAT park gets to crowded. I'm guessing that for the 3 day visitor you'll want to start 2 days in DL & one day early at DCA.....but it might be 2 days in DCA & one day at DL. But we won't know for sure until the hours/MM & AP confirmations are known....& might not know until Carsland actually opens up.



- We would then on Monday hit Carsland first thing and work DCA from there, as well as do WoC that night. I suppose we could hop over to DL later that day if necessary.

-I find it interesting you tell me that I shouldn't say I don't need to plan as much at DL, but also that I am overthinking it. Which should I do? Honestly, I pretty much work it by having a strategy for the first few hours of the day, and then remain flexible with the goal of getting FPs whenever I can. (Gonna miss that strategy at WDW going forward.) I would very much appreciate that Fantasyland ride order!

I mis-spoke. You're not over thinking it. But know that your "plan" after the first 3 hours will likely change. By all means plan.....but know that you'll need to refine the "plan" after the info on how Carsland affects everything.

Also, leave "blocks" in the day (probably in the afternoon) for rests, touring the GCH & DTD, watching Aladdin, watching a parade etc. Plus, As Hydroguy said:

I think Hound is more of the mind that if you get a good early start with FPs then it is easier to wing it. How do you know now that you won't just love, love, love Cars Land and need to go there every single day? You may or may not, but you do not need to decide now.

If one goes with the idea "Sunday is DL, Monday is DCA and then Tuesday is DL again" you lose the flexibility to just respond to what the group's sentiment is. If you instead just make sure to get off to a good start each day with FPs, know which shows you want to see, etc., then you flex. Being able to park hop whenever you want just makes this all the easier.

Exactly. :hippie:

We see SO MANY people who stroll into DL at 10:15am & state "whatcha want to do?". By 10:15am, I'm FINISHING my morning at DL. Rode 9 rides during MM, picked up 4 FPs (5 if slid by Roger Rabbit or if BTMRR is disconnected), & rode another 7-8 rides (4 of the E ticket). While the hordes are walkin UP MAIN ST......I'm strolling out & 100 yards (not across a street.....across an esplanade) over to DCA to pick up a Soarin' FP, check out Crush, ride Monsters (or ToT), ride Soarin' (with the FP) hop on Griz (if there isn't much of a line) or go ride Screamin' single rider (if there is a line at Griz), snag a second FP right there at Screamin'.....all by noon thirty.

:cool2:
 
:We see SO MANY people who stroll into DL at 10:15am & state "whatcha want to do?". By 10:15am, I'm FINISHING my morning at DL. Rode 9 rides during MM, picked up 4 FPs (5 if slid by Roger Rabbit or if BTMRR is disconnected), & rode another 7-8 rides (4 of the E ticket). While the hordes are walkin UP MAIN ST......I'm strolling out & 100 yards (not across a street.....across an esplanade) over to DCA to pick up a Soarin' FP, check out Crush, ride Monsters (or ToT), ride Soarin' (with the FP) hop on Griz (if there isn't much of a line) or go ride Screamin' single rider (if there is a line at Griz), snag a second FP right there at Screamin'.....all by noon thirty.

:cool2:

My touring instincts tell me this is a fantastic plan when DL has 7 AM MM hours and DCA opens at 10 AM, but it might not work so well if what seems likely occurs, and DCA opens for AP holders at 8 AM and has MM hours as well, regular open at 9 AM. The crowds may distribute much more evenly between the parks, or even skew towards DCA up through noon. As you point out, until it actually happens how it affects crowds won't be known. It's good for me I suppose that it will be open a few weeks, because I am sure people will be posting frequently about the crowds and how to deal with it.

I really do suspect that with the 7 AM MM hours that we will be sort of crashing by shortly after noon-time and needing a mid-day rest. (We land at John Wayne @ 7:45 PM on Saturday night, so probably will be rolling into bed about 10 PM exhausted - yet still waking up at 5 AM because of the time change. As I said before, it will make for hitting 7 AM MM hours - assuming that's when they are - a breeze.)

So - one last point to WDW vets that are used to the hours being posted 6 months in advance - DLR doesn't seem to post the park hours until about 6-8 weeks prior, which is another reason that advance planning may be harder. (As of today, Park hours are posted through June 5th - which is 6 weeks away.) There's been rumors of DCAs summer schedule, but nothing official.
 
So - one last point to WDW vets that are used to the hours being posted 6 months in advance - DLR doesn't seem to post the park hours until about 6-8 weeks prior, which is another reason that advance planning may be harder. (As of today, Park hours are posted through June 5th - which is 6 weeks away.) There's been rumors of DCAs summer schedule, but nothing official.
This is true. But it is also true that - except in rare cases like June 15 with new lands opening and a DCA "Grand Re-Opening" - knowing park hours, etc., 6 months in advance would be of little value at DLR. They do not change much from year to year. You do not need to make ADRs that far in advance. You do not need to park commit 6 months in advance. The night time entertainment is pretty stable. You can easily park hop to catch anything you want to see.

The other thing at DLR which is usually missed by WDW vets is that when DLR does release entertainment schedules, they do so for all of the secondary entertainment as well - generally 6 weeks in advance - but at least 4 weeks.

At WDW they release major fireworks-type entertainment 6 months in advance but you never find out about secondary entertainment for sure until you arrive and get a Times Guide - or look at online sources each Saturday.

So at DLR you get the information well enough in advance to do something with it.
 
It really needs updating and that is next on my list of "to do's" now that I finished a dining thread for DLR - but here is a good starting point:

"An Introduction To WDW For DLR Vets" www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=16541636

:wizard:

The thread above was invaluable to me as I planned our family's first trip to DL. I am a big planner and I about have a panic attack thinking of going to DL without a 'plan'. I'm slightly flexible about those plans but when we go to DL, or WDW for that matter, there is a huge outlay of our hard earned vacation dollars and we want to get the most for our money.

We can sit around and sleep at home :goodvibes. I must say now that our little boys are grown men we do spend a few days getting up later and staying at the parks later knowing the lines will be longer...
 












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