BWV rooms are larger than BCV and VWL rooms - At least according to DVC website.

[Shamus]

Don't look now but BWV GVs are listed as being larger then OKW GVs on the DVC site!!!!!

Gee thats just like something I tried to point out a few years back in this Thread.

In fact all the room sizes for BWV match what I posted back in this Thread.

So these numbers can't be correct .....can they????




Stop Rolling Over Rich ....... OKW still has the largest 1 and 2 Bdrms and will always be the original DVC!
Rest Peacefully my good friend.


Shamus

 

[Disney Doll]

Since OKW & BWV were bult pretty close together, it doesn't surprise me that BWV units are a little bigger than the rest of the "hotel-style" units.

When we bought in 1997, they were selling both OKW & BWV, so they probably had to make BWV a smidge bigger to compensate for OKW's size...you know "BWV is only slightly smaller in size than OKW, and look at the location".

By the time they got to BCV, folks were "sold" on that area of WDW (being on the Boardwalk, walking to MGM & Epcot), so they were able to downsize BCV's units a little. I would guess that VWL was probably the same theory...slightly smaller unit, but look at the access to the MK!!!!

BTW, I think that all the units in all the different DVC resorts are very amply-sized for vacation condos. BCV, BWV, & VWL may be smaller than OKW, but they still aren't too shabby either!!!!!!!

 

[dvc_john]

FWIW, that website indicates that the BWV studio is 22 sqft larger than an OKW studio, and an OKW 2-br is 63 sqft larger than an OKW studio + 1br!

 

[Caskbill]

It's http://www.touringplans.com , not what you might expect.

In the 2005 edition of the UOG I thought there were a few anomalies. but I would hesitate to call them "errors" for several reasons.

-- They've probably put more effort into this than other sources.

-- Just because their figures are different from other figures that have been around for several years doesn't make them "wrong".

-- Dealing with the "average size" is tricky. Suppose there was a resort where 80% of the standard rooms are 400 sq ft and 20% of the standard rooms are 450 sq ft. How do you report this in a single figure? If you say 410 sq ft, the weighted average, then your figure is wrong for ALL the rooms! Perhaps better to just say 400 sq ft, which at least is right 80% of the time? But if you report the percentage and size for each room style, what about the resort with six different room styles? And this is assuming they have complete information, which may not be easy to come by.

At least they're trying!

In statistics, there are three common numbers used concerning a statistical distribution: The Mean, Median, and Mode. (Mean is commonly referred to as the average)

In your example,
Mean = 410 sf.
Median = 400 sf
Mode = 400 sf

Seems to me using 400 sf is the best descriptor.

 

[CRSNDSNY]

In your example,
Mean = 410 sf.
Median = 400 sf
Mode = 400 sf

Seems to me using 400 sf is the best descriptor.

Is it possible that the average sf is also the most commonly occuring sf? Is that statistically possible?

 

[PKS44]

mode means most commonly occurring

Mean is adding up the total and dividing by the number of entries

Median is the middle number in a list of the numbers from smallest to largest..

 

[dianeschlicht]

LOL, this thread is WAY too much math for me!! I just know what my impression is, and my impression is that the OKW 1 and 2 bedroom villas are larger than BWV, VWL , BCV, or SSR. I also have the impression that the studios at BWV and SSR are larger than the OKW ones. I think the BWV single level GV is probably larger than the OKW 2 story ones, but the OKW 2 story's are larger than the BWV 2 story. Anyone agree?

 

[fwm]

mode means most commonly occurring

Mean is adding up the total and dividing by the number of entries

Median is the middle number in a list of the numbers from smallest to largest..

To expand on this, the median is the unit size that 50% of the units are larger than and 50% of the units are smaller than.

 

[JohnNJ]

I just checked the member webite and I can't see the sq. ft. listed under accomodations. It may have been removed.

Maybe it's just me. Anyone else see it? Link?

 

[bcvillastwo]

I can't speak for BWV 1 or 2 bdrms but we have stayed in BWV and BCV studio's and frankly if BWV is bigger, you couldn't prove it by me as they both seemed about the same size.

Perhaps others have a much more discerning eye when it comes to these kind of things.

 

[jarestel]

We've never given much "weight" to room sizes since we can physically occupy only a finite amount of space at one time anyway. But as I think of it, as the years go by, and a few extra pounds appear, we can stay at the DVCs with the "larger" rooms in order to compensate.

Thanks for the info!

 

[m4travel]

I just know what my impression is, and my impression is that the OKW 1 and 2 bedroom villas are larger than BWV, VWL , BCV, or SSR. Agree?

Agree. The Disney website lists the OKW 1-bedroom villa as 942 square feet, well over the 814 for BWV (and 714, 727, & 726 for SSR, VWL & BCV).

Gosh, my partner and I are going to feel a little lonely there by ourselves, but we love space. Why else would we have a 3-bedroom villa in Cabo?

 

[LisaS]

I just checked the member webite and I can't see the sq. ft. listed under accomodations. It may have been removed.

Maybe it's just me. Anyone else see it? Link?

You need to go to DVC's public website at www.disneyvacationclub.com which redirects you to http://dvc.disney.go.com/dvc/index the link posted in the original post.

Once the page has finished loading, the "See Our Resorts" drop down lets you select a resort. Once that page loads, click on "Accommodations" at the left side of the page. Room sizes for the resort you selected are shown there.

 

[drusba]

The information on the Disney website is simply wrong. BWV room sizes are comparable to the others except OKW which has the largest one bedrooms. Disney has previously published room sizes which put BWV studios at 359 to 360 and 1BR at about 714 to 720. That 412 sg ft studio size Disney is now giving on the web-site would make it as large as rooms at the Polynesian and many at the Grand Floridian and anyone who has been in those knows the rooms are larger than BWV. Moreover, the BW Inn, Yacht Club and Beach Club rooms are 370 to 380 and if you been in those you know they are not smaller than the BWV studios.

So where did the error come from. Some clerk undoubtedly pulled some of the orginal Disney official documents for BWV particularly ones that provided room dimensions that were made with some state filings when BWV was being registered and first went on sale. Those provided room dimensions for BWV that are now shown on the website but apparently the clerk doing the latest entries on the site missed that those dimensions were based on complete perimeter space allowed for the rooms, meaning outside dimensions; internal dimensions are really in the same range as VWL, BCV and SSR.

 

[JohnNJ]

The information on the Disney website is simply wrong.

How do you know the information is incorrect? Did you measure the rooms in all of the resorts?

Your post is pure speculation.

 

[goofy4tink]

All I know is that when we stayed in a BCV studio in June, my dd, almost 12, walked in and said.."Is this studio the regular size? It looks smaller than BWV." Then dh walked in and said..."it sure looks a tad smaller doesn't it?" I really think it's not a lot smaller, but there is a difference. The area by the table/chairs is tighter than at BWV. But, I have to ask...why would it make any difference? WHat's so important about maybe 9", if that much? Sure isn't going to make me not want to stay in BCV. Sure, I like BWV much more, that's why I bought there, but BCV sure aren't too tough to take.

 

[Simba's Mom]

This is purely a guess, but I wonder if the BWV studios looking bigger has anything to do with the fact that there's no coffee table, making a larger floor area. If so, I still want my coffee table! DVC promised them almost 2 years ago-why none yet (Can you tell this is a sore point with me?)!?

 

[gppnj]

Hi folks,

With respect to room size, we usually carry a tape measure when doing WDW hotel inspections, and measure to the nearest inch. If there's a question on a specific room or resort, let me know and I'll ensure we check it in the next 60 days.

As far as room *counts* go, there are some resorts for which there's no consistent answer, even within Disney's own publications. In those cases where readers have identified discrepancies, we simply called up the hotel manager and asked for their best estimate. As they're closest to the resort, we thought they'd have the most accurate numbers. IIRC, the DVC resorts were particularly difficult, since those rooms can be partitioned different ways.

Hope this helps.

Len

When I started to read your post, I thought you were joking. Bringing a tape measure to check room size? Then I saw in your signature that you're affiliated with the unofficial guide. Cool. That's a great book. I especially like the restaurant reviews.

 

[PKS44]

The information on the Disney website is simply wrong. BWV room sizes are comparable to the others except OKW which has the largest one bedrooms. Disney has previously published room sizes which put BWV studios at 359 to 360 and 1BR at about 714 to 720. That 412 sg ft studio size Disney is now giving on the web-site would make it as large as rooms at the Polynesian and many at the Grand Floridian and anyone who has been in those knows the rooms are larger than BWV. Moreover, the BW Inn, Yacht Club and Beach Club rooms are 370 to 380 and if you been in those you know they are not smaller than the BWV studios.

So where did the error come from. Some clerk undoubtedly pulled some of the orginal Disney official documents for BWV particularly ones that provided room dimensions that were made with some state filings when BWV was being registered and first went on sale. Those provided room dimensions for BWV that are now shown on the website but apparently the clerk doing the latest entries on the site missed that those dimensions were based on complete perimeter space allowed for the rooms, meaning outside dimensions; internal dimensions are really in the same range as VWL, BCV and SSR.

Saying something is "simply wrong" when you back it up with nothing but your own speculation is SIMPLY WRONG...The Disney numbers previously posted were the odd piece of information --now Disney's published numbers coincide with other sources all pointing to the fact that there is a difference and it is not inconsequential (9 x 9 feet in a 1BR) that is easily enough room for a mattress for that 5th person--- LOL!!!

 

[PKS44]

someone who is clever with computers...cut and paste the room layouts for the rooms from the DVC website and post them on a reply here..like BWV room layout next to BCV layout...then eveyone can see the difference themselves unless you just want to print them out and hold them up to a light overlapping each other....