BWV/OKW & Relatives & Rant

[jonestavern]

Hmm..need some ideas & opinions, be gentle, what with stress at 'work' & with the following..

Feb/March 2005 we had a wonderful extended family trip.
We stayed on site--VWL--& the rest of the family chose to stay at the, then still under re-hab, Nick Hotel. Nick was not a good experience for them~

All were enthusiastic about returning to WDW! --but wanted to join us on site. We were happy--we are gung-ho WDW/DVCers!

Fast forward over the next few months--no one can commit it's too far ahead--DH carefully explains--many times to each party-- how far in advance we must make reservations if we are to get the room we need. Now he's having this conversation with his DB, his DDad, DB, & my DSis--everyone is always monumentally indecisive--but they all want to go--but..er..um..gee..uhh... ad nauseum! for at least 3 months!
DH says to each, well, maybe another time.
We adjust our expectations & everyone is happy~

At 7 months out we book BWV for a 1 bedroom, I make my plans--restaurants, order of worlds --don't have to explain this to DISers All of the family knows we're going, know of our plans, everyone is happy for us. Not a word on the subject for months-

LAST WEEK--DH's brother says they're 'in' & is there a pull out for my DFIL to sleep on?
Over a year ago DH told his brother they would have their own room & evidently, this is how it is going to be.
This past year at HHI I slept on the pull out so DFIL, in his 70's, would not have to do so--I just am not comfortable having DH's & DBIL's 72 year old Dad sleeping on the pull out when he wants to nap--no privacy or peace to take a breather from the rest of us.

DH & I discussed, that a family trip ---would be better at OKW for the spaciousness. Since DH & I basically have no time to talk, I was thinking OKW if DBIL & DSIL brought their 3 children, too. DH thought I was on the only DBIL/DSIL wavelength. I was not.

the group will consist of: DH, DS17, DFIL72, DBIL, DSIL & me

So DH cancels our BWV ressies & has us at OKW, 2 bed--he will not pay for a 3 bed, I have tried, but he is adamant--problem there is DFIL loves to galavant in the mornings & DBIL & DSIL like the nightlife. I thought we would all be better off at BWV, which also gives DS17 a lot to do. We have never been to BWV & love OKW, but we agreed to try all the DVC properties

Now, as of this morning we are waitlisted for 2 bedrm at BWV, standard or preferred--
What are our chances?
We are going Nov 12-16 this year.
We will spend the 10th/11th at POP & our last FR/Sat at VB for cash.

All in all, I am so bummed over having to sleep on the sofa again & most likely not going to BWV, that I really am considering not going at all.

We all get along just fine, we all do WDW at our own paces, so no problems there.

But I had my heart set on BWV--we had it reserved, they had their months of chances.
Now it's either I sleep on the pull-out(no privacy, cannot really 'set up' my things, wait for the bathroom to get dressed in) or I put a sweet, worked-very-hard-all-his-life 72 year old man out there!
DBIL had DFIL sleep on the pull out at Nick last year, so they have no problem with it. DH thinks I am being monumentally dense & his Dad's just fine on the pull out. I say at his age & his sweet nature, & everything he's done for all his kids, sorry, he's earned more. DFIL never complains about anything, though. He is extremely polite

I believe DBIL/DSIL's going is important to DH & their going hinges on a private bedrm
In the party--gee, I think, because knowing those concerned--well, who does really know?! -- DBIL, DSIL, DFIL, DH, DS17 & me.
We are paying for the rooms. I know I will be cooking with some help from DH~

At this point I am thinking if I am just going to be Grumpy about sleeping on the pull out I should make the decision not to go. DH will be put out & DS17 prefers me to go. I am really trying to work on myself to 'get in the spirit', but am not having sucess so far.
I know I am acting 'spoiled', but I live in a 'construction zone' house & I really look forward to the luxury of our DVC--or any--vacations!

Cheer me up. Can I shake this mood? Do we have a shot on BWV waitlist?
Am I being hopelessly old fashioned in not wanting DFIL to sleep on the pull out? Will this fat lady learn to frolick in the living room whilst dressing for the day in front of those whose lives would be ruined should they catch a peek?
Should I skip this one? I'll be brokenhearted, DH will be p*ssed, DS17 will be momentarily bummed--but if I can't get on the Happy Train that would spoil everyone's trip!


Jean

 

[LadyyRedd]

Maybe I'm a horrible person, but in all honesty, I would put DBIL and DSIL on the pull-out. They hemmed and hawed for months and made the last minute decision to go. Plus, they love the nightlife, they love to boogie. Let them get into the pull-out when they boogie in at all hours of the night!

Kimya

 

[SC Minnie]

Let them sleep on the pull put. Your FIL can do his galavanting in the mornings without disturbing others.

 

[jonestavern]

Maybe I'm a horrible person, but in all honesty, I would put DBIL and DSIL on the pull-out. They hemmed and hawed for months and made the last minute decision to go. Plus, they love the nightlife, they love to boogie. Let them get into the pull-out when they boogie in at all hours of the night!

Kimya

Well, then I'm horrible, too!
I have thought of that, but apparently they are interested only in a private bedrm or will not go. Their going will make DH very happy as well as DS17. I like them, too,
Maybe my real gripe is with DH for not just saying the ressie train has left the station?
He works so hard at a job he doesn't like, so I feel I've said all I can. He knows my feelings & simply feels I am being 'obstructionist'

Meanwhile, I got a big break at my volunteer work--after a big blow last evening--so I am bucking up on that front.
The kicker is that it involves folks being indecisive, too.
One artist promising she'll show up for an event & then, after the major publicity has been just put out, telling me, she may be going to another event--& thanking us for being so welcoming & kind to her.

As Earl would say,"Karma is trying to tell me something".

Jean

 

[sgtdisney]

If it were me, I would let your father in law sleep on the pullout. He has already said it was ok with him, your husband has said it was ok for his dad to sleep on the pull out, his other kid, etc.. Let them do that. Maybe the father in law is just thrilled to be going and doesn't care where he sleeps. As long as they are ok with it, I would be too. It's not like you are telling him to sleep on the balcony or in the car. It's not like you are telling him anything, it sounds like the dad and his sons have made the decision. I mean, after all, he will have a bed. If he needs to nap during the day, why can't he just lay down on one of the beds in the bedroom, but still sleep in the living room at night?

Personally, I think your brother in law is being a little rude, after all it's free accomodations, but it sounds like you all get along and it's important to your hubby and son for all to go. Just relax, let the dad sleep on the sofa so he can wander about in the AM and sleep in a bed. At least that is what I would do.

We took my in-laws, and BIL down one year and I had fully intended him to sleep on the couch. He decided to sleep on the floor in the 2nd bedroom with his parents. I thought it was silly but hey, if that's what he wants, he didn't put me out of my bed. I was just happy to be there and so were they.

 

[barkley]

i would'nt hold out for bwv-it's one of our home properties and we could'nt book for that period in '05 because it's the tail end of "jersey week" and the begining of "soap weekend".

so you'll have a 2 b/r at okw? if that's the same set up as at bwv and some of the others it's basicly a 1 b/r with an adjacent door to the studio next door. i'm kind of confused how this will accommodate all the players (you, dh, your son, fil, bil/spouse and their 3 kids) there are what-2 double beds in the one room, the double pull out in the l/r and 2 beds in the studio (i think they are doubles) so that sleeps 10 if everyone doubles up but it seems like someone is either going to end up with fil in their bedroom or the other's persons kids. does'nt seem like it would do much for privacy (and esp. with a teenaged son-esp. if the cousins are younger or girls).

now setting aside my personal feelings that since YOU are the dvc owners and should get the master b/r-if i HAD to go on this trip, i'de probably put dibs on the studio and camp in there with my teen son (you would have the luxury of locking the door and having the 2nd bathroom), and letting the rest of the bunch figure out who is sleeping on the pull out with grandpa (or mom or dad or whoever). you can use the kitchen jointly as well as the washer/dryer.

if "they" are'nt up for that i would tend to borrow points from the following use year and book JUST MYSELF and perhaps teen son in a studio or 1 b/r at the dvc of MY choice.

 

[budbeerlady]

You are very nice, and even attempting to be okay with the pull out. They waited too long, You had your ressie, it worked fine for you. I am crabby lately, I would have told them your plans are made. If they wish to come they can book their own room, either full price at your DVC resort or any other resort. You are paying for the room, cooking (sounds like) for them. You at best are not sleeping on the couch, let the last min. people sleep on the couch. They waited, then changed their mind, too bad. Couch or stay home. (And just because I am crabby I would not be very quiet when I got up at 7:30am to get ready for the parks)

Obviously I have had too much family trip planning interaction (or non-interaction so I just made the decision). You need to do what will keep the peace between you and your Dh. (But if the dbil and dsil might make a decision faster next year (if you bravely offer again) if they sleep on the couch.

 

[rigs32]

Your *choice* to give up the bed, as DVC owner is just that - a choice. He decided, late, to join you. You are choosing to subjugate yourself to him because of a perception that he is entitled to it. You're welcome to make that choice, but you can't really complain, as there is another solution.

 

[jonestavern]

sorry, double post!



Jean

 

[jonestavern]

Yep, so far it is just:
DBIL & DSIL, DFIL, DH & DS17 & me.

I don't really see myself as 'subjugating' myself to DBIL's request, rather going along with it because it is important to DH to have his brother along. You are right, we do choose our own happiness or misery!

But I see what you mean by I've made a choice to go along with the program. Keeping the peace w/DH has to be important to me, though.

I was so totally unprepared that DBIL would assume after being told, more than once & in detail, how tough it is to get a room, that all would be well. In a way, I think DH's changing our plans around to suit the latecomers just reenforces more such behaviour.

I am not holding out much hope for BWV. It would make the whole situation more palatable--to me--to be there.

Yes, sgtdisney, maybe you are right! I have thought of saying to DBIL that Pa will sleep on the sofa, but he will spread out his things, nap & seek peace in the master!

So far it is no kids (but my DS17) & I don't think it's too much of a possibility as DNiece 8, will be going to WDW with her Mom (ex-SIL) in Sept--so too much time out of school.
If DBIL decided to bring their kids ( two 8 yr olds & a 14) then we'd have to go for the 3 bed & even DH would see that.

Older, but still have a ways to go on the wiser!
Jean

 

[PaulaSue]

Maybe I'm a horrible person, but in all honesty, I would put DBIL and DSIL on the pull-out. They hemmed and hawed for months and made the last minute decision to go. Plus, they love the nightlife, they love to boogie. Let them get into the pull-out when they boogie in at all hours of the night!

Kimya

DITTO

 

[lowie]

Jean, you are just WAY nicer then I am... if I had to pay for their rooms I'd have put them all up at one of the All Stars and kept my DVC all to myself OR i'd put them all in the 2 bedroom and go find myself a studio ALONE!

but then again i'm not a huge fan of any of my in-laws