BW Views reserved for DVC points users!

Do you agree with limiting BW view rooms to Points stays?

  • Yay DVC! Keep those sweet BW views for us members!

  • Disagree: Limiting BW view to points stays is not fair.

  • Disagree: I still want to get my DVC discount for those weekend nights, even for BW view.

  • Unsure: some positives, some negatives.

  • Don't believe this is actually the case.


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Well, at the 11 month mark, we reserved our first BW views, a 2BR over Columbus Day weekend. Of course given the high points cost for weekend nights, I am inclined to see if I can;t get those weekend night for cash using the DVC discount. The last couple of times I asked, I was informed that these nights would never be available for cash, and that from now on Boardwalk View rooms were reserved for ppl staying on Points.

Well, Bravo to that! I imagine that if for some reason one of these rooms were going to be empty for a night or two, they might rent for cash, but the CMs were pretty emphatic (and I have asked at least three different CMs about this) that they would not be releasing BW views to CRO and would not be renting them to members for cash either; only points stays. It certainly clarifies things, and might help prevent misunderstandings from those who might rent thru CRO expecting a BW view.

So another benefit of membership. Well done DVC.
 
I was still able to get Std view and pool view rooms for cash over the weekend. So this is just BW view.
 
I think people staying on points should get preferance for all requests. They are the owners and they should get first pick.
 

I'm just now buying into DVC, so to me I think that it's another small incentive to become a DVC member or rent points for the BW view. I know, that at some point, I'll probably miss not being able to mix weekend cash stays with S-Th point stays for a BWV room, but realize that it's better for DVC members overall to have another incentive to become members or rent points. Great idea!

Now, what can they do at the other DVC resorts?
 
Member cash discount nights come from the points pool of rooms so I think they should be eligible too. The rule for member cash discount nights is they are offered if they anticipate the room will not be booked for points. So it would probably rarely be available, which is probably why they put the rule in.
 
I can see where people are overwhelmingly voting for limiting the BW view rooms for point stays, but I think this shouldn't necessarily be the case. The thought process on DVC's part should be slightly amended to state that those rooms are reserved for DVC members only. In this scenario, even if you wanted to pay cash for the rooms, you'd still be able to get a BW view because you are a DVC member.

If you simply limit it to points stays, then there is the possibility that non-DVC members could get a BW view room (via renting points) over a DVC member that wants to pay cash. This somewhat defeats the purpose in my mind of a DVC "perk". In my scenario the DVC member on the account would have to have the room reserved in their name, whether it be a cash or points reservation, in order to obtain the BW view. This way renters would not be able to secure these rooms.

Now, maybe everyone doesn't mind letting "renters" get hold of these rooms. I was just trying to point out why the first choice in the poll might not necessarily indicate a true DVC "perk".

Brian
 
pplasky said:
I think people staying on points should get preferance for all requests. They are the owners and they should get first pick.


Absolutely !!!!! :cool1:

I own @ the BC and would certainly like to see a change for us BC owners to be able to have accomodations with a lake "Boardwalk View" !! :worship:
 
They should go one step further, BW points only. :rotfl:
 
They should go one step further, BW points only.

Basically thats what it boils down to. Good luck getting a BWView at 7 months.

They really should do this for the other resorts, especially SSR DTD view.
 
Then again... Im "Not" suggesting this.....

Looking @ this corporately....Think If I were Disney Resort management, knowing now and going forward, that non DVCers "are" and "would" pay top $$$ for the BW view.....why would I restrict it to DVCers only!!
 
DemoBri1 said:
I can see where people are overwhelmingly voting for limiting the BW view rooms for point stays, but I think this shouldn't necessarily be the case. The thought process on DVC's part should be slightly amended to state that those rooms are reserved for DVC members only. In this scenario, even if you wanted to pay cash for the rooms, you'd still be able to get a BW view because you are a DVC member.
I respectfully disagree. If a member is willing to pay points for those nights, he/she should get the BW view over someone paying cash - even if that someone paying cash is also a DVC member.

If all the rooms on a particular night aren't needed for points, let the discounted rooms be from the Preferred View - Pool/Garden category, not from the BW view rooms that a point paying member wants.

DemoBri1 said:
If you simply limit it to points stays, then there is the possibility that non-DVC members could get a BW view room (via renting points) over a DVC member that wants to pay cash. This somewhat defeats the purpose in my mind of a DVC "perk". In my scenario the DVC member on the account would have to have the room reserved in their name, whether it be a cash or points reservation, in order to obtain the BW view. This way renters would not be able to secure these rooms.

Now, maybe everyone doesn't mind letting "renters" get hold of these rooms. I was just trying to point out why the first choice in the poll might not necessarily indicate a true DVC "perk".

Brian
The "non-DVC member (aka "renter") only gets the room because a member called before any other member to reserve the room. We may not like how the member chooses to use his/her points, but I don't see how that makes this perk something other than a "true DVC perk".

FWIW, just having the member's name on the reservatrion wouldn't necessarily stop renters from enjoying a BW view. It would be easy enough for an owner to just add his/her name to the reservation of the renters. How would MS know if the occupants were renting or just friends/family of the owner? It's not currently a requirment that everyone on the reservation check in at the same time or even show up. Would that mean everyone would have to check in at the same time as the member? If so, there would be lots of members traveling with friends and family that would be inconvenienced by that practive and I sincerely doubt that the front desk CMs would want to police anything like this anyway.

Best wishes -
 
senecabeach said:
Then again... Im "Not" suggesting this.....

Looking @ this corporately....Think If I were Disney Resort management, knowing now and going forward, that non DVCers "are" and "would" pay top $$$ for the BW view.....why would I restrict it to DVCers only!!
Maybe because members own/have a right to use approximately 96% of the rooms?

Best wishes -
 
CarolMN...

I agree with your thoughts (Im a DVCer too)..but..obviously Disney resort management doesn't see it that way?? They already have our buy in and money..so why would they really care?
 
CarolMN said:
I respectfully disagree. If a member is willing to pay points for those nights, he/she should get the BW view over someone paying cash - even if that someone paying cash is also a DVC member. -

I'm going to disagree on your disagreement :) . Whether a member is willing to pay points or cash it doesn't matter. If a member wants to pay cash and he ends up with the last BW view room at 11 months, and then another member comes in after that with points, you're saying that the member with cash should be bumped. Not really fair in my book.

CarolMN said:
The "non-DVC member (aka "renter") only gets the room because a member called before any other member to reserve the room. We may not like how the member chooses to use his/her points, but I don't see how that makes this perk something other than a "true DVC perk".
.

Again I will disagree. To have a "true DVC perk", it should mean that it is members only who will be enjoying this privilege. With the ability for a member to rent out points to someone who may not be a DVC member, that would mean that a non-DVC member would be staying in a BW view room.

CarolMN said:
FWIW, just having the member's name on the reservatrion wouldn't necessarily stop renters from enjoying a BW view. It would be easy enough for an owner to just add his/her name to the reservation of the renters. How would MS know if the occupants were renting or just friends/family of the owner? It's not currently a requirment that everyone on the reservation check in at the same time or even show up. Would that mean everyone would have to check in at the same time as the member? If so, there would be lots of members traveling with friends and family that would be inconvenienced by that practive and I sincerely doubt that the front desk CMs would want to police anything like this anyway.

Best wishes -

This I do agree with. It would be very hard to police.
 
senecabeach said:
CarolMN...

I agree with your thoughts (Im a DVCer too)..but..obviously Disney resort management doesn't see it that way?? They already have our buy in and money..so why would they really care?
Because it is in their best interests to have satisfied/happy members. I think the really big bucks for DVC is in the sales, not the renting out of rooms.

If a significant number of BW views were ending up with "CRO - booked" guests, I believe it would generate many complaints - enough to give the managment big headaches. I wouldn't be surprised if someone filed (or attempted to file) a lawsuit. Now I personally don't believe it would have merit, but the publicity would not be good for DVC sales.

I think resort management is capable of looking beyond the short term profit motive and seriously tries to behave in the best interests of the members. JMHO. YMMV.

P.S.
 
Boardwalk may be soldout but SSR is not. If word got around that DVC was being unfair to members it would hurt their SSR sales. After the recent "cm's hate DVC members" thread, there was a thread from a new member wondering if they made a mistake.
 
I reserved a studio for the weekend on cash and I was offered all 3 views..however, I wanted to start my cash stay on the Thursday and there were no BW views available for that night, but there were for Friday and Saturday. I opted for the preferred/pool view, but standard was available too. I was surprised that BW view studios were available for cash. But perhaps, they are still only offered to DVC'ers with the discount and not available through CRO.
 
senecabeach said:
I own @ the BC and would certainly like to see a change for us BC owners to be able to have accomodations with a lake "Boardwalk View" !! :worship:

unfortunately, no such view at the BCV.
 















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