Bush resists immediate probe into Katrina response

[Southern4sure]

Let's see... he had to meet with the national voluntary organizations because he's trying to save his reputation. He had to meet with the education minister because people are very angry with him and if he continues to show the same incompetance as he did in the beginning, there will be an uproar the likes of which he has never seen.

Preparing for the funeral of a dead person for which he has other people to do that.

The crisis of the gulf coast far outweighs some dead persons funeral. Sorry but it does. National crisis... hmm... or a dead persons funeral... national crisis or a dead persons funeral...

National crisis is far more important.

As for Iraq, Iraq is part of the problem. Dealing with it. Dealing with it how? Diverting yet more cash to bringing democracy to a nation of people that don't want it when his own country is in much more dire need of attention?

Seems like his priorities are a little messed up. Your own people first. Screw everything else.

And surveying is not helping. Its a PR stunt.

Every post I have read before and after Hurricane Katrina from Totalia is negative towards the American People and the American Govt. That is fine..it is your opinion. What I dont understand is why are you trying so hard to get into America? I read you have a fiance..thats great and I do wish you well. But how long have you been trying? Two years I think..I might be wrong. Why would you want to come to a country that you hate so much? If your Visa is ever granted, how are you going to live day to day in the US with all this hatred? Can you name a few good things about America (besides your fiance)?

 

[WDWBetsy]

But lets save lives in NO and worry about blame later.

You asked what we Dems wanted, so I gave you some examples.

But don't forget - hurricane season is not over.

I'm not blaming, and I want as many lives saved as possible. But in honor of those who have died because some idiot(s) didn't know what he was doing (not to mention the local/state issues, I want those who are incompetent out of the picture now and some other EXPERIENCED person(s) in charge. I certainly don't feel like Mike Brown can handle an additional or the next hurricane disaster, not to mention any terrorist attack.

Or I guess we can just let things blow over and hope for the best for the future disasters...

 

[wvrevy]

Every post I have read before and after Hurricane Katrina from Totalia is negative towards the American People and the American Govt. That is fine..it is your opinion. What I dont understand is why are you trying so hard to get into America? I read you have a fiance..thats great and I do wish you well. But how long have you been trying? Two years I think..I might be wrong. Why would you want to come to a country that you hate so much? If your Visa is ever granted, how are you going to live day to day in the US with all this hatred? Can you name a few good things about America (besides your fiance)?

In other words...America: Love it or Leave It.

Sorry, but I don't think it's too much to ask that the president not be doing this:

while Americans are stranded and dying. Do you ?

(Pic was taken as Bush partied on Tuesday)

 

[WDWBetsy]

Every post I have read before and after Hurricane Katrina from Totalia is negative towards the American People and the American Govt. That is fine..it is your opinion. What I dont understand is why are you trying so hard to get into America? I read you have a fiance..thats great and I do wish you well. But how long have you been trying? Two years I think..I might be wrong. Why would you want to come to a country that you hate so much? If your Visa is ever granted, how are you going to live day to day in the US with all this hatred? Can you name a few good things about America (besides your fiance)?

I don't see her views as negative or full of hate. I think she's seeing it without the blinders that so many have on. But that's my opinion.

 

[totalia]

I don't hate the United States. Far from it. Sometimes the things about it drive me batty. But I don't hate it. Hating an entire country for the actions of a few is just completely idiotic.

Other than that, I refuse to defend myself against anything thrown at me like that because its deliberately intended to be inflamatory.

This conversation is NOT about me. Don't try to make it so. This conversation is about BUSH.

 

[Southern4sure]

I don't hate the United States. Far from it. Sometimes the things about it drive me batty. But I don't hate it. Hating an entire country for the actions of a few is just completely idiotic.

Other than that, I refuse to defend myself against anything thrown at me like that because its deliberately intended to be inflamatory.

This conversation is NOT about me. Don't try to make it so. This conversation is about BUSH.

That was and is not my intent. I really would like to understand why....is that wrong? If I wanted to flame you I would...but that is not my nature!

 

[totalia]

I don't see her views as negative or full of hate. I think she's seeing it without the blinders that so many have on. But that's my opinion.

Thank you. I don't have blinders on about my own country either. No one has ever bothered to ask me about my own gvt.

Just because someone isn't blind to the things their leaders and people do doesn't mean they hate someone.

I hate only one person in existance. And that is because he was 16 years old, drunk, and ran his car through a pole killing two of my cousins and scarring my sister for life.

I don't hate people. I hate actions.

 

[shelby_36]

Do you really think the President should be so brainless that he can't figure it out for himself that allowing his own people to die on a rooftop for 4 days is NOT acceptable?

If he can't get that AHEAD OF TIME then he shouldn't be in office.

The hurricane hit Monday and no one could get in or out.
On Wed. FEMA requested ships and helicopters to move in.
on Thurs evacuations began. Doesn't sound like 4 days to me. Now the two it took was two too many..but don't exagerrate to make Bush look bad.

 

[shelby_36]

Every post I have read before and after Hurricane Katrina from Totalia is negative towards the American People and the American Govt. That is fine..it is your opinion. What I dont understand is why are you trying so hard to get into America? I read you have a fiance..thats great and I do wish you well. But how long have you been trying? Two years I think..I might be wrong. Why would you want to come to a country that you hate so much? If your Visa is ever granted, how are you going to live day to day in the US with all this hatred? Can you name a few good things about America (besides your fiance)?

I was thinking that too. She should be glad she's not here. Maybe her fiance will move to Canada.

 

[M:SteveO]

I think we've discovered that it's completely useless to debate the issues involved in the situation when many simply won't look at the facts. The fact is that the federal gov't asked Gov. Blanco to order an evacuation on Friday, she resisted. What totalia and peole like him may not understand is that here in America, disaster relief is coordinated initially by the local and state gov'ts and backed up by the federal gov't. This from a military official at USNORTHCOM:
"USNORTHCOM was prepositioned for response to the hurricane, but as per the National Response Plan, we support the lead federal agency in disaster relief — in this case, FEMA. The simple description of the process is the state requests federal assistance from FEMA which in turn may request assistance from the military upon approval by the president or Secretary of Defense. Having worked the hurricanes from last year as well as Dennis this year, we knew that FEMA would make requests of the military — primarily in the areas of transportation, communications, logistics, and medicine. Thus we began staging such assets and waited for the storm to hit.

The biggest hurdles to responding to the storm were the storm itself — couldn't begin really helping until it passed — and damage assessment — figuring out which roads were passable, where communications and power were out, etc. Military helos began damage assessment and SAR on Tuesday. Thus we had permission to operate as soon as it was possible. We even brought in night SAR helos to continue the mission on Tuesday night.

The President and Secretary of Defense did authorize us to act right away and are not to blame on this end. Yes, we have to wait for authorization, but it was given in a timely manner"

Now we all know that the response was not big enough, it was there, just not enough of it was there (this is a fact - see Chertoff, General Honore press conferences over the past few days). What some of you on the left can't acknowledge is that quick response is the responsibility of the local and state gov't. You just want to blame Bush. Remember before the levees broke, you were blaming him for the hurricane, then for the levee break, then for purposely leaving all those people to die. I mean if he really didn't care as many of you suggest, why did he order troops in there now. I mean if he didn't care then, why does he now?

 

[Charade]

In other words...America: Love it or Leave It.

Umm.. not really. I don't like Iran or North Korea or France. So why would I want to move there?

 

[shelby_36]

In other words...America: Love it or Leave It.

Sorry, but I don't think it's too much to ask that the president not be doing this:

while Americans are stranded and dying. Do you ?

(Pic was taken as Bush partied on Tuesday)

know isn't it awful! I saw rescue workers...eekk... reading to kids!!!... and some were even playng bowling!!!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!! They should do nothing but cry and moan and grieve...DON"T SMILE IN THE SOUTH! And definately don't play music!

 

[WDWBetsy]

The hurricane hit Monday and no one could get in or out.
On Wed. FEMA requested ships and helicopters to move in.
on Thurs evacuations began. Doesn't sound like 4 days to me. Now the two it took was two too many..but don't exagerrate to make Bush look bad.

Here's the problem. Bush appointed some individuals (not all - some do know what they're doing) who happen to be his buddies and who are not experienced, and thus - our country is now suffering. And he has previously been stubborn to get rid of those same buddies.

Now if I hired some of my friends to work where I do, and they didn't know what they were doing - and messed a bunch of things up, I would be expected to let them go or give them jobs they are actually qualified to do. Not keep them in the same job or promote them.

 

[totalia]

Why are you people being so hurtful? Especially right now Just decided to take potshots at me?

I didn't say ANYTHING mean to you to start you in on me. Why now? Can't you see this is wrong?

 

[shelby_36]

Just wondering why you'd want to come into a country you obviously don't agree with the present govet. Maybe you'd be happier if you waited until Bush is out of office.

 

[wvrevy]

Gee...I wonder if people defended Nero, too.

Is there anything this clown could do that some people wouldn't defend ? i honestly think the guy could light the original bill of rights on fire, and people would applaud him for providing light that they could read by.

 

[M:SteveO]

Here's the problem. Bush appointed some individuals (not all - some do know what they're doing) who happen to be his buddies and who are not experienced, and thus - our country is now suffering. And he has previously been stubborn to get rid of those same buddies.

Let's say the relief efforts had been absolutely perfect (which I'm positive would have happened if a Democrat had been president). Here's something that will shock you - thousands of people still would have died. This notion that the suffering is directly and SOLELY the result of the response is nonsense. People were still stranded in their homes, and in the Superdome. They are still rescuing people from houses today. They've been doing that since Tuesday, contrary to popular belief. People are forgetting that this was the biggest natural disaster in our history. If you have seen the pictures of the complete devastation of the coastline of three states, you'd realize this. It is not easy to get to these people, they are suffering and stranded. The U.S. military and NO police are doing the best they possibly can. If the rescue operation was so bad as the left believes why have we evacuated more than 182,000 people. Pretty remarkable if you ask me.

 

[shelby_36]

Here's the problem. Bush appointed some individuals (not all - some do know what they're doing) who happen to be his buddies and who are not experienced, and thus - our country is now suffering. And he has previously been stubborn to get rid of those same buddies.

Now if I hired some of my friends to work where I do, and they didn't know what they were doing - and messed a bunch of things up, I would be expected to let them go or give them jobs they are actually qualified to do. Not keep them in the same job or promote them.

And that is what the probe will show. Everyone in every job you choose your own employees what to choose people they know or trust. Its human nature. If Bush made a bad call and these people are inept then fire all their butts. I just think this argument (not just here but all over the net and news) is just being used for Bush hating fodder. I think some repub are getting sick of every negative thing in the US is Bushs fault. It seems unbelieveable to me that for a man so many people think is stupid, inept, uncaring, could hold SO much power as to control events in the World so easily.

 

[Southern4sure]

Why are you people being so hurtful? Especially right now Just decided to take potshots at me?

I didn't say ANYTHING mean to you to start you in on me. Why now? Can't you see this is wrong?

Totalia I am not taking shots at you. I asked a honest question because I really am interested in knowing. I always hear about foreigners who want to live in American for whatever reason. But I always read you posts about American and it is always negative in some way so why would you want to live in a place that you constantly criticize? I dont think that is taking shots at you...Im just curious...thats it...honestly.

 

[totalia]

I don't agree with my gvt either. But that doesn't chase me away. Would you leave just because you don't happen to like the current gvt? Gvt is not the be all and end all of all things.