snoopy5512
Earning My Ears
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- Jul 23, 2014
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Hi. How much of a pain agree the buses from Por? I will have my 3 yo and 1yr old. Tia!
We've gone every year for the past 7 years and I have found less and less people willing to give up their seat. I have seen men having to wrangle two strollers while standing on a very crowded bus while wife tries to hold two sleeping kids. I have seen people not give up their seat and I'm too far back to do so (as the crowd between is too great to pass) Having started with young girls who were exhausted by the end, I remember the days of praying someone would give up their seats. Normally they did but I can still remember times when no one did. It really made me mad. What happened to manners, chivalry and class?
Never have had any issues with the busses with little kids. If we don't feel like standing, we just wait for the next bus so we can for sure have a seat. Never a big deal or a problem.
What happened to just waiting for the next bus when you see it is full? When you get on an already full bus with that much paraphernalia you should not expect a place to put it all, plus yourselves and two sleeping kids!
Most everyone is 'very' tired also and were glad to have a seat. The inconsiderate ones to me are the ones that get on a full bus 'expecting' others to make you comfortable - now that's what makes me mad!
My dh has a bad knee that needs rest, but he would give his seat to you even though he is hurting - that's why we got on a bus with 'seats' (we're also seniors).
Wow, such venom. There is nothing wrong with waiting for the next bus but when you have little ones who are either exhausted, asleep or having a melt down, waiting another 20 + minutes can be exhausting. Furthermore, we never even had strollers to deal with so your assumption that there was paraphernalia is wrong. We had exhausted kids and often had to try to hold them while standing. I will tell you I broke my back 3 years ago and still gave up my seat for mothers with kids when we came 5 months later!. I have seen men, young people etc not do the same. It is a shame that this is the way people view life. The right thing to do is how it used to be--give up your seat despite being equally as exhausted (and I am not necessarily referring to you if you are a senior, just people in general) Even as young girls, my girls give up their seats to the parents and to the elderly. That is how it should be. I can well imagine the Titanic now a days--everyone for themselves, no chivalry, no sense of what is the right thing to do.
Civility not expectations is what I am talking about. Many people, especially first time visitors, don't realize what they are getting into when taking kids on the bus as is seen in all of the people encouraging the OP to do it. I never expected a thing but am horrified that people in today's society feel exactly how you do. I am only 48 but see a decline in what used to be compassion in our society as a whole. I have NEVER expected someone to take care of my family but I assure you that I was raised with humanity and compassion for others (as I am doing with my children) so that if I do see others in need, I will care for them as humans just as I would care for my own family. And with that, I give up!! You all have made your point which is why we do drive now to avoid having to watch the inhumanity and lack of civility during our Magical vacation!Here is the thing--each of us has our own family members to care for. If you have family members who should not be standing on a bus, then you need to see to it that they don't. Be it stepping aside for the next bus, or grabbing one of the taxis that are always around, or even renting a car.
I can never understand how people get mad at strangers for not taking care of their family members, when it apparently wasn't a priority for the rest of the family to start with. I would never haul my mom on a bus and expect someone else to give her a seat--that responsibility is with me! And if I don't see to her needs, shame on me, not shame on everyone else.
I think it is nice when people help each other out. But it is not nice for people to expect it, and then get all judgy and complaining about it. Be grateful when someone helps you out, not mean because they didn't take care of your family better than you did.
I have seen men having to wrangle two strollers while standing on a very crowded bus while wife tries to hold two sleeping kids.
There is nothing wrong with waiting for the next bus but when you have little ones who are either exhausted, asleep or having a melt down, waiting another 20 + minutes can be exhausting.
Civility not expectations is what I am talking about. Many people, especially first time visitors, don't realize what they are getting into when taking kids on the bus as is seen in all of the people encouraging the OP to do it. I never expected a thing but am horrified that people in today's society feel exactly how you do. I am only 48 but see a decline in what used to be compassion in our society as a whole. I have NEVER expected someone to take care of my family but I assure you that I was raised with humanity and compassion for others (as I am doing with my children) so that if I do see others in need, I will care for them as humans just as I would care for my own family. And with that, I give up!! You all have made your point which is why we do drive now to avoid having to watch the inhumanity and lack of civility during our Magical vacation!