Breastfeeding in the parks

[KathyTX]

Nope - she means present tense - why do you think we don't let he bring Katie to the podcast

 

[jediobiwan]

Nope - she means present tense - why do you think we don't let he bring Katie to the podcast

Now we really know why Pete is so passionate about it

 

[ratherbeatdisney]

I'm surprised that you dont see that you are actually being offensive when you keep using that analogy.

You are comparing a few snide remarks or eye rolling to my being legally denied the same rights as you.

When your wife's legal right to breastfeed is denied, then feel free to use the analogy.

Until then, you have no idea what persecution is or how it feels.

Ever been beaten up for breastfeeding? Ever been thrown out of your home by your parents because you breast feed? Ever thought of suicide because society doesnt understand your wanting to breastfeed? Ever felt like you were in danger because you were breastfeeding?

Talk to any gay adult and I'm sure you'll get an earful of how it feels to be persecuted.

I have a feeling that no mater what I or anyone else says.....that you will continue to be angry about this subject.

You win !

 

[15isto2]

Its about modesty and consideration for those arround you, the comments on breast feeding in the podcast were to an extent in a similar vein to thise about wearing a speedo in a previous podcast

 

[Emiel]

 

[999ghostslover]

I sent a voice email about this issue and I really hope it plays. I, by no means, want to lump all of the podcast members together but Pete's couple of comments were like a punch in the gut. And he is the main podcaster. I find people who walk around the parks half naked way more offensive than a woman showing a couple of inches of skin even a nipple. I get more embarrassed walking by the posters at Victoria Secret in the mall with my 6-year-old than I do when we sit next to a nursing mom at church. If you wonder why some women don't cover up I suggest you try having a meal with a blanket over you head and see how long before you rip it off or at least ask to bottle feed a friends baby and put a blanket on the baby's head. The baby is the one who does the uncovering most of the time. They don't see the need and it bothers them. Or watch this video.
I think that the transition to the Egypt question was totally appropriate--I was glad you were moving on-- and I agree the treatment of gay people around the world isn't in the same ballpark. Women are not in danger to breastfeed.
But I think it is extra disappointing to hear people who would like most Americans to butt out of their business if they do not agree and at least look away if offended try and espouse any advise on the appropriateness of something they have no direct knowledge of us. But like I said in my email. I still love you. I hope I can help along your tolerance a little more but more importantly I PRAY that any moms and dads-to-be listening get to hear a different perspective.

 

[Swank]

Stay out of the damn lakes!

and

Keep off the bare breasts!

 

[jcb]

But I think it is extra disappointing to hear people who would like most Americans to butt out of their business if they do not agree and at least look away if offended try and espouse any advise on the appropriateness of something they have no direct knowledge of us.

I won't speak for Pete - he does that much better than I - but this is where I get baffled by the tone of this thread. Whatever your views on the subject of breastfeeding etiquette, my problem wasn't with someone disagreeing with Pete's views (or Kevin's views, etc.) but with how they disagreed. We all can't agree about everything but attacking people with whom you disagree (by saying they should "butt out" because they have "no direct knowledge") or making comparisons that are overstated is what concerns me.

The whole point of this discussion board is to discuss, not fight.

 

[SydneyFalco]

I get more embarrassed walking by the posters at Victoria Secret in the mall

Hey, hey now... let's leave the good folks at Victoria's Secret out of this. They do good work.

And I get the feeling Pete wouldn't "approve" of them, either.

 

[4orm]

I'll be whipping them out to feed my little one in less than a month at WDW.

 

[jcb]

Someone didn't read th OP. I never said I was being persecuted, I said breastfeeding moms have. I also never said I overstated. I stand by the fact that I felt Pete (and the crew by silence) judged how some women breastfed and how they should breastfeed in the parks, then with the next email said they wouldn't associate with a country who judged how they lived their lives, I found it hypocritical then, and I still find it hypocritical.

The problem with common sense is that it's not that common.

Perhaps I misunderstood the part of the your post I quoted. I apologize. My problem with your post wasn't that I necessarily disagreed with your basic point but with how you said it. I said nothing until, so I thought, you asserted you were being persecuted for disagreeing with Pete and the podcast crew.

 

[darrengs]

I must have heard a different podcast. I didn't hear Pete saying he was against breast feeding,. The way I heard it was that when breastfeeding one should use common courtesy and try to be discrete about it. As far as the urinating in public that was stated as an answer to the "it's natural" argument.

BTW do not watch the movie Grown Ups as there are jokes about breast feeding and you may be disturbed by them.

 

[jaysonleah]

Perhaps I misunderstood the part of the your post I quoted. I apologize. My problem with your post wasn't that I necessarily disagreed with your basic point but with how you said it. I said nothing until, so I thought, you asserted you were being persecuted for disagreeing with Pete and the podcast crew.

You are 100% correct, my tone was abrupt and harsh and I could/should have stated my opinion better and without the anger. I was upset at the time and should have just stopped and taken a breath.

Darren and everyone else who maintains that it was a joke, Pete must have thought it was so funny that it beared repeating because he said again, "just like I don't want to see you go to the bathroom" later in that segment. I have no problem with Pete's sense of humor (see his Beach Club review and the tool who took his "unwashed masses" comment seriously), I just don't think it was said in jest. If I am wrong, it was a bad joke.

 

[mjaclyn]

This is kind of off topic, but if someone ever DID 'whip it out' and urinate on Main Street in WDW would they be banned for life?

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

I agree with the OP a little in the extent that the breastfeeding/urinating comparison is really, really not a good analogy. Unless it was a joke.

I'm not offended if women breastfeed in the parks. It's not my business.

 

[jcb]

This is kind of off topic, but if someone ever DID 'whip it out' and urinate on Main Street in WDW would they be banned for life?

if you believe the grossest things you have seen at WDW thread, it happens all the time. (Please don't take this link as comparing breastfeeding to the events in the linked thread.)

 

[DisneyKevin]

But I think it is extra disappointing to hear people who would like most Americans to butt out of their business if they do not agree and at least look away if offended try and espouse any advise on the appropriateness of something they have no direct knowledge of us.

I dont want you to "butt out" of my business. I'd like you to call your congressmen, representatives, senators and anyone else who will listen and tell them that you think it's wrong that I dont have the same legal rights that you do.

But....I'm guessing that you are not nearly as passionate about my equal rights as you are about how I feel about breastfeeding in a theme park.

I've explained my thoughts in a way that I think is fairly clear.

I dont particularly care if you trot through the park nipples to the wind, but please keep in mind that others have children as well and Main Street might not be the place that parents want to have the "breast feeding conversation" with a 4 year old.....no matter how freakin natural it is.

Modesty and decorum rule the day.

 

[ScotteHansen]

I am a minister in a large church. So in my little microcosm of existence I know all too well the reality of making a statement where someone takes offence beyond reason. The staff here gets a letter nearly every Sunday taking issue in one way or another with something.

To the OP, you are being oversensitive. This comment said in a group of your closest friends would not have been offensive to you. Even if it was a bit abrasive you would have worked it out quietly because you are among friends.

It was unfair to "call them out". If anything you should have written Kevin privately. Just a cursory reading of the boards will tell you that if anything he answers his emails, and certainly would have responded immediately.

The Podcast team broadcasts in a public arena. The reality is that they will "offend" someone's sensitivities every podcast.

My challenge in this thread is to consider forgiveness and just let it go. Everyone can admit what they could have done better and move on, and I think that the heart of the DIS community is creating friendships based on a mutual love of Disney.

Can we get back to that?

 

[Sugardimples]

I dont want you to "butt out" of my business. I'd like you to call your congressmen, representatives, senators and anyone else who will listen and tell them that you think it's wrong that I dont have the same legal rights that you do.

/QUOTE]

Go, Kevin!

 

[wishspirit]

Do I think breastfeeding is beautiful and natural? Yes
Does it bother me? No
Does it bother me in public? No
Does Pete saying he dislikes seeing it bother me? No, he has his right to his own opinion
Does what Pete says change my attitude towards breastfeeding in public? No
Are you still allowed to breastfeed in public? Yes
Therefore should I take what anyone says with a pinch of salt and my own judgement? Yes

I could of been offended by some of the things they say on the podcast, but I choose not to. You have as much a right to be offended as he has a right of saying how he feels. It isn't a deliberate attempt to rile you up, so just ignore it.

I can understand in the heat of the moment, you might want to put your point across, but what will it achieve? Will Pete change his mind? I doubt it. Just make it your mission to be supportive of those who do breastfeed, and make life as easy for them as possible.