BREAKING NEWS....Joran van der Sloot Confesses to murder of Stephany Flores in Peru

[Tuffcookie]

You want our opinions about the tennis racket?

Peruvian jail inmates + Joran Van Der Sloot = Love/Love

TC

 

[Handbag Lady]

Sooooooooo, can we please get the information this poor girl found on his computer to the authorities?

 

[FergieTCat]

He likes to confess doesn't he. He told a few times how he killed Natalie. Hopefully, the police in Peru will do what Aruba wouldn't do. Lock this guy up for a very long time!

And he keeps info on how he killed Natalie on his netbook? Gee, why didn't Aruba think of that?

I'm sure Van der Sloot Sr. used either influence or money to make sure that the netbook was not checked.

 

[happybratpack]

And he keeps info on how he killed Natalie on his netbook? Gee, why didn't Aruba think of that?

I think this part of the story was hokey. She just all of a sudden grabbed his laptop and googled him out of the blue? That makes no sense.

 

[TiggerTails57]

You want our opinions about the tennis racket?

Peruvian jail inmates + Joran Van Der Sloot = Love/Love

TC

I was hoping we might have a DIS phycologist here on staff.......
I find that very interesting.

I agree Van Der Sloot should do his time in a Peruian jail........

 

[TiggerTails57]

I think this part of the story was hokey. She just all of a sudden grabbed his laptop and googled him out of the blue? That makes no sense.

He's trying to blame the victim suggesting she did something to make him mad.

 

[SC Minnie]

I wonder if he will admit to Natalee's murder and try to get to serve time in Aruba since her murder happened first. ???? I'm sure he would be better off in prison in Aruba where is family had influence than in Peru. He has been working the system so far.


I seriously hopes he rots in a Peruvian prison.

 

[wdwmom0f3]

Funny, that's exactly how I feel about CNN.

Me too!!

I really hope that he rots in Jail. I also wonder if he just did this because he was wanting to get caught for what he did to Natalie. Either way, if the jerks in Aruba had done what they should have in the first place, this girl would be alive today. There is no telling what else he has done in his past. I bet there are more victims of this creep, maybe even before Natalie.

 

[TiggerTails57]

I wonder if he will admit to Natalee's murder and try to get to serve time in Aruba since her murder happened first. ???? I'm sure he would be better off in prison in Aruba where is family had influence than in Peru. He has been working the system so far.


I seriously hopes he rots in a Peruvian prison.

He confessed twice in Aruba..........he had Daddy to protect him.
Not anymore!!

 

[bigtinkfun]

Wonder how they got him to confess? Maybe he fell down the stairs by accident, oh, 20 or 30 times...

From what I hear, Peruvian prisons are awful. They don't have enough guards to maintain control over the place, so the guards patrol the outside to make sure on one gets out and the prisoners basically run everything on the inside. And it's the law of the jungle in there.

Like season 3 of Prisonbreak.

I just hope the Dutch government doesn't try to pull any strings for him.

 

[Imzadi]

He will be back on the streets in a few months if he gets convicted in the US. The US an the Dutch Government have an agreement that states that prisoners convicted in the US will return to The Netherlands and there the punishment will be reviewed to the Dutch law.
He will be free in a half year.

Pray that he dies in Peru.

Wonder how they got him to confess? Maybe he fell down the stairs by accident, oh, 20 or 30 times...

From what I hear, Peruvian prisons are awful. They don't have enough guards to maintain control over the place, so the guards patrol the outside to make sure on one gets out and the prisoners basically run everything on the inside. And it's the law of the jungle in there.

Like season 3 of Prisonbreak.

I just hope the Dutch government doesn't try to pull any strings for him.

Van der Sloot is only 22. Even if he gets the maximum sentence of 35 years, he will get out at 57. Now, I know Janet Hill, on another thread thinks that's an "old person," but really, unless the Peruvian prisons are extremely bad. . . or umm, he suffers an accident, (Stephany's father is rich and influential,) he will most likely live through prison and be released.

That would be ironic. Van der Sloot's own father was rich and influential and kept him out of prison. Then he ends up in another country and suspiciously dies in prison, after killing the daughter of a man who was a rich and influential father.

Here is the explicitly brutal account of how Jeffrey Dahmer ended up dying in prison:
Warning, gruesome TMI!
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/11/29/us/jeffrey-dahmer

Maybe someone should show that article to Van der Sloot and get him to fess up about Natalee, for her mother's sake, and for the hope that his down demise is less brutal.

 

[TiggerTails57]

Van der Sloot is only 22. Even if he gets the maximum sentence of 35 years, he will get out at 57. Now, I know Janet Hill, on another thread thinks that's an "old person," but really, unless the Peruvian prisons are extremely bad. . . or umm, he suffers an accident, (Stephany's father is rich and influential,) he will most likely live through prison and be released.

That would be ironic. Van der Sloot's own father was rich and influential and kept him out of prison. Then he ends up in another country and suspiciously dies in prison, after killing the daughter of a man who was a rich and influential father.

Here is the explicitly brutal account of how Jeffrey Dahmer ended up dying in prison:
Warning, gruesome TMI!
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/11/29/us/jeffrey-dahmer

Maybe someone should show that article to Van der Sloot and get him to fess up about Natalee, for her mother's sake, and for the hope that his down demise is less brutal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Anderson
and Anderson died too......

 

[EMom]

From what I am hearing, he's setting up mitigating circumstances. He was high (so he says) and that is...unbelievably....a mitigating circumstance in Peru. So he gets time taken off the 35 year max. He's saying she drove him to it by searching on his laptop....setting up a "heat of passion" rather than premediation. Let me say, I take that story with a HUGE grain of salt. I think he plain old killed her. And in the US, premeditation can be formed quickly. Can't say what Peru requires, but I'm betting he's going for crime of passion/I snapped, etc. He's also confessed and that gets time taken off. So he likely won't get 35 years.

But even if he DOES get 35 years, they give 2 to 1 time off for good behavior. So he could very well be out in less than 12 years AT THE MOST. A 15 year sentence could see him walking free in 5 years. That leaves him decades and decades to murder more women. I still say there is no way Natalee and Stephany are the only two he's ever killed. He's been globetrotting and it's not that hard to kill anonymously if you have no known connection to the victim.

I seriously pray some Peruvian inmate becomes indignant that this Dutch sociopath murdered a local celebrity's daughter and decides to rid the world of him. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

[Irish9697]

Aruba is one of the places I USE to always want to visit. They will never see a dime of my money with the way they handled this case.

I totally agree!

 

[southernbohemian]

Can someone who has followed the Natalee case answer this for me?

Was it ever possible for the Holloways to sue Van Der Sloot in a civil trial for wrongful death like the families did against O.J. Simpson? Can they not do it because it happened in another country? Not that money would have brought Natalee back, but it could have definitely curtailed his lifestyle. And I don't think U.S. courts would have thrown out his confessions so quickly.

 

[Imzadi]

Can someone who has followed the Natalee case answer this for me?

Was it ever possible for the Holloways to sue Van Der Sloot in a civil trial for wrongful death like the families did against O.J. Simpson? Can they not do it because it happened in another country? Not that money would have brought Natalee back, but it could have definitely curtailed his lifestyle. And I don't think U.S. courts would have thrown out his confessions so quickly.

I *think* because of the way the Aruban police botched every situation of this case, no one was ever able to prove Natalee was even murdered. I think that's how the rumors and speculation of slave trading even got started. Which, Joran, the arrogant, smug, narcissist that he is, happily capitalized on that mythology and later used that speculation himself, (part of narcissism,) to keep himself infamous while in Thailand.

On the Joy Behar show yesterday, someone said the Aruban police are once more looking into the locales around Aruba - since Joran confessed - and now that his dad is dead and no longer has influence over whomever he possibly bribed before to overlook finding the body. They might suddenly come up with something now.

The FBI, at the time of Natalee's disappearance, offered and insisted on their assistance on the case, especially because it involved a U.S. citizen. But, according to the TV show, Criminal Minds, unless a case falls under federal jurisdiction, the FBI has to wait to be invited to participate on a case - even in the U.S. If the U.S. police do not want them in on a case, and it's not a federal case, they won't go in and help.

With the Aruban police and Van der Sloot, the father, being an influential judge doing his thing, then the Dutch authorities bungling the case, the FBI wasn't able to do much when they went down there. Even if the FBI fell over Natalee's body, ultimately they don't have jurisdiction or any power in Aruba. I doubt they could bring back any evidence to file any kind of charges here. (I'd love to know what they know.) They eventually went home.

I don't see how the Holloways could have done anything with the Arubans/Dutch not really "cooperating." I don't know if they even have wrongful death type cases there for Beth to file. (Disneyadore might know.) At the time of Natalee's disappearance, I remember the news saying murders/disappearances are extremely rare in Aruba. That reasoning was originally thought to be why the Arubans botched the case so much. They weren't used to investigating such homicides.

 

[portocall]

I have been to Aruba. It is a small island so I would imagine that murder investigations isn't something they get a lot of practice in. Most of the island isn't populated. I thought at the time Natalee went missing that she would have been pretty easy to find. I wouldn't be surprised if parts of his "stories" are true.. it is a shame that he was able to evade jail time and moved on to kill again. I really hope that Peru handles this case much better and he is able to remain behind bars for a long time.

 

[happybratpack]

From what I am hearing, he's setting up mitigating circumstances. He was high (so he says) and that is...unbelievably....a mitigating circumstance in Peru. So he gets time taken off the 35 year max. He's saying she drove him to it by searching on his laptop....setting up a "heat of passion" rather than premediation. Let me say, I take that story with a HUGE grain of salt. I think he plain old killed her. And in the US, premeditation can be formed quickly. Can't say what Peru requires, but I'm betting he's going for crime of passion/I snapped, etc. He's also confessed and that gets time taken off. So he likely won't get 35 years.

But even if he DOES get 35 years, they give 2 to 1 time off for good behavior. So he could very well be out in less than 12 years AT THE MOST. A 15 year sentence could see him walking free in 5 years. That leaves him decades and decades to murder more women. I still say there is no way Natalee and Stephany are the only two he's ever killed. He's been globetrotting and it's not that hard to kill anonymously if you have no known connection to the victim.

I seriously pray some Peruvian inmate becomes indignant that this Dutch sociopath murdered a local celebrity's daughter and decides to rid the world of him. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Well, he's definitely not stupid. I'm sure he knows exactly what he's doing. It's really scary that he could be out in just five short years. I'm guessing the US could then go after him for the extortion charge.

I don't think they're the only ones either. I'd be curious to see his whereabouts for the past few years.

I'm personally shocked at the Peruvian system. I guess I just assumed it would be harsher for some reason.

 

[happybratpack]

Thought this was interesting, I hadn't realized he received 10k before the 15k wire transfer.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/08/us.van.der.sloot.alabama/index.html?hpt=T3

Van der Sloot and Beth Holloway's representative met in Aruba, where a payment of $10,000 was made to him, followed by a transfer of $15,000 to a personal bank account in the Netherlands, the document states.

In exchange, van der Sloot showed the representative a house where supposedly Holloway's remains were, according to the document. When records showed that the house wasn't even built at the time of her disappearance, van der Sloot admitted that he lied, Interpol said.

 

[Grumpy's Gal]

I don't think Natalie was the FIRST girl he ever killed.........I think it's the first one that got so much publicity. I don't think Stefanie was the next one he killed after Natalie either.