BLT Studio for May 2016 - 11 mo or 7 mo booking?

[Deb & Bill]

OP, just be aware that the BLT studios are probably the smallest studios on Disney property. If you have more than two adults or maybe two adults and one small child, it is going to get crowded. Especially if you have any extra equipment like strollers or scooters. Once the sleeper sofa is opened up, there isn't much room in the main area of the studio.

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

hello again,

fyi...the biggest thing i see here repeated more than anything else , are those misunderstandings about the operations
of dvc. i think if there was neutral/separate dvc department , manned by pure owners....then we could see some
really great progress....instead of "lip service." critical thinking is a major part of my life, because when you
are required to make life/death choices....you always wanted to "error" on the side of life. now i am so use of
doing critical thinking..i just naturally apply it to all of my other doings in life, including our recreational activities.
.....dvc current actions have me wondering "out loud" their reasoning for letting so many get by with "costing"
members a "ton" of $$$$$. & making it very difficult for members using their points in too many circumstances.


& to avoid additional misunderstandings....i like to explain the type of measurements i am referring to. the
poster here, was simply trying for getting a blt room cheap as he could, but it is an area that dvc is
failing owners. if you came into dvc to rent points then that defined your primary objective as a rental business.
dvc has a obligation to stop this, because the primary objective ...is for all members to utilize their points for
staying @ wdw resorts. i think, because of the "ssr" situation --when many dumped their ssr points to buy
@ blt....@ lower costs...started many of these professional renters.

* referring to a "self evident" situation.....i was trying to make it as clear as i could, there are some situations
being posting here that should never happen once to a member. some even more than that. ex, like
arriving to an already occupied rooms. to me, there are some dvc internal workers , needing to be fired.

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

con'd.....

while it may seem "liked i am" anti-rci ownership & against renting is wrong. what is needed are some
changes to reduce dues , costs & manage better as to effect any members in a negative way,
getting their rooms. if i was in charge, rci will opened up all their rooms, or bye,bye birdie.
also other changes/quick fashion! ( my previous "comments" were just a reference via
a comparison. )

how many dvc owners you think are putting their points into rci, to rent them out? zero would
be an accurate guess?!

oh, s.snoop, i saw your post...& it is a good point, because blt isn't the same as ssr market.
but who say every resort must be treat the same? all is needed is a lil' tweaking. however,
if you're a blt owner, to get the highest values from a year of renting...you need to rent
from ..blt & not ssr? so not too much is needed.

two friends own rci/hilton. one already regrets "the whole" thing.

reading about some members "seeing" their resorts disappear right before the 7mos period
is why i posted here...do you think non/members seeking renting consider rooms
being taking away from members and/or the rci traders? but what i think is worst,
does dvc care? if you really understand what is going behind the dvc front door,
is why the current dvc needs an overhaul.

oh, i am not guessing....unless the members posting here....are just posting all
their troubles for fun?!

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

here another insight from reading here....when poster bill posted his observations about
dvc...no longer has the "club" feeling --made me think about our dvc /blt stays. and
i realized ....that the dvc members staying on our floor, was way below the
what should 've been..in reality very few. something is wrong, very, very wrong.

 

[buzzrelly]

don't think you process my observations correctly....

I don't think people understand what you are saying because of your improper use of grammar and punctuation. I was trying to read your post and trying to understand it, but to me, it just runs on and on and it's hard to figure out what point you are trying to make.

 

[supersnoop]

i am so use of doing critical thinking..i just naturally apply it to all of my other doings in life, including our recreational activities......dvc current actions have me wondering "out loud" their reasoning for letting so many get by with "costing"
members a "ton" of $$$$$. & making it very difficult for members using their points in too many circumstances.

Critical thinking requires information. You need something to base your claims upon. And you have provided no data to support your claims. Everything you cite is about how you feel and what you perceive. You might be able to form an argument, but anyone else can form a counter-argument based on their own data, or even on actual data.

oh, s.snoop, i saw your post...& it is a good point, because blt isn't the same as ssr market.
but who say every resort must be treat the same? all is needed is a lil' tweaking. however,
if you're a blt owner, to get the highest values from a year of renting...you need to rent
from ..blt & not ssr? so not too much is needed.

Why must they all be treated the same? Because the legal agreement dictates that they are all treated the same. Each resort has a separate condo association, which, I suppose, could opt out of the DVC association. But they can't dictate terms for joining the DVC association. If you want to be able to book anything other than your home resort ever, then everyone in the program plays by the same rules. If you are a DVC member, and not just a condo owner, then you have the same rights and privileges as any other member.

 

[supersnoop]

I don't think people understand what you are saying because of your improper use of grammar and punctuation. I was trying to read your post and trying to understand it, but to me, it just runs on and on and it's hard to figure out what point you are trying to make.

The lack of capitalization and strange line breaks cause me to spend some extra time trying to decipher the text. But I don't think it makes it difficult to figure out the point. I think the point is so far off base that it just confuses the whole situation.

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

sometimes one need to combine little details to create the bigger picture. i don't need to prove anything when others
are reacting in predictable ways. then if you are paying attention , then it is self evident why i am using critical
thinking over common sense. ( critical thinking often goes against common sense , much like statistics trumps
popular opinions...frequently seen here. ) one ex/., giving a person oxygen with a breathing problem can actually
do them " in. " this is why you pay people working intensive care...they rely on critical thinking to take
the right action to keep you alive.

yes, i am not interested in earning an english grade. the bigger points too me, is dvc wasting my money, &
some of the poor services regarding the over all structure. ( there just isn't enough space to outline all
that dvc should be doing & some of the abuses by members posting their problems with dvc ...it just
never occurred to them, liked showing up to their rooms with "guests/non-dvc owners already in the rooms. )
hint/hint.

another observations, when some ask questions about specific dvc issues...like the rci relationships--
those taking full advantages / rci experts with small dvc , do a vanishing act. ( for good/$$$$ reasons).
they want to keep dvc owners in the dark, & used their rci 4/5 x a year @ dvc resorts. why ain't
they spending their time @ their rci resorts? look @ ebay & you will see the "need" for dvc to limited
rci owners to one trade per 2 years...( based on the numbers of rci owners/compared to dvc)
also any rci resort not available to dvc...should not have any way to trade in.

snoop---you are far from accurate in making such a general claim. however, this is the #1
defensive mechanism i see here..over & over.

for instance..how many blt owners wanting to trade to ssr? how many blt owners think if they
trade to ssr they can rent out their points "better-easier/or more $ ? but how many ssr owners
who are constantly trading for blt ? (and if you want data, just monitor this site yourself)

it just like the arguments for buying re-sales vs direct. there are many bonuses for direct that
many don't realized. some things are not always measured in $. we compared the 2, and
by far ( including $$$$) ..direct is a much better option . what i think..many new owners
panic reading here, and forget about looking @ the benefits going forward.

i am not saying dvc is bad..just it easily could be much, very much better!!!

while anyone can "bark up the tree " is missing my points.....just like being accepted to the
"popular" group.....while you got your hands in my pockets...no thank you. exactly is
your rationalizations for any ssr owners being permitted to rent their points for a
non/member, taking a room away from another owner wanting to stay. ( liked the
beach club).

 

[disneynutz]

here another insight from reading here....when poster bill posted his observations about
dvc...no longer has the "club" feeling --made me think about our dvc /blt stays. and
i realized ....that the dvc members staying on our floor, was way below the
what should 've been..in reality very few. something is wrong, very, very wrong.

I don't see renting as a problem, either the owner, friend of the owner, or someone that the owner rented to will be on the reservation. The owner has the right to use their points the way they see fit.

My issue and I think yours is the treatment and lack of customer service after the sale by Disney/ DVC. Owners posting "how bad can it be, we are at Disney" doesn't cut it and owners should not put up with the website, room issues, and refurb decorating and quality.

Life is challenging and I expect that most of us use Disney as an escape from our day to day lives and usually Disney provides a wonderful yet expensive escape. DVC on the other hand is very contrary to the Disney way of doing business. The website doesn't always work, we don't like to keep you informed but we are publishing feel good videos and selling you a membership magic bowling experience?

I don't get it.

Bill

 

[supersnoop]

snoop---you are far from accurate in making such a general claim. however, this is the #1
defensive mechanism i see here..over & over.

What "general claim" did I make? I've been very specific.

for instance..how many blt owners wanting to trade to ssr? how many blt owners think if they
trade to ssr they can rent out their points "better-easier/or more $ ? but how many ssr owners
who are constantly trading for blt ? (and if you want data, just monitor this site yourself)

The owners who are past the 7-month date are more than willing to trade for SSR instead of allowing their points to expire. Whether they use the points themselves or rent them out, SSR is miles better than nothing. How many SSR owners are trading for BLT? No, you can't tell just by monitoring this site. There are over 200,000 DVC members. There are almost 6,000,000 points at BLT. Do you really believe the handful of people posting on this site represent any significant amount of activity? Once again, critical thinking requires data and information, not just wild guesses and intuition.

it just like the arguments for buying re-sales vs direct. there are many bonuses for direct that
many don't realized. some things are not always measured in $. we compared the 2, and
by far ( including $$$$) ..direct is a much better option . what i think..many new owners
panic reading here, and forget about looking @ the benefits going forward.

I'd love to hear why you believe direct is such a better option? In general, the only benefit is getting your points 90 days sooner. On a 50-year contract, that is not significant.

while anyone can "bark up the tree " is missing my points.....just like being accepted to the
"popular" group.....while you got your hands in my pockets...no thank you. exactly is
your rationalizations for any ssr owners being permitted to rent their points for a
non/member, taking a room away from another owner wanting to stay. ( liked the
beach club).

Now, this is just so far off base I don't even know where to begin. DVC is real estate. You buy it. You aren't accepted into any "popular" group. You don't get any special privileges for being "cool." If you actually believe you should, then you need to get out of high school and read the legal description of what you own. All owners are equal and have very specific rights regarding the property they own. An owner has the right to use their points to their benefit. They either stay in a room or they receive payment to allow someone else to stay there. They are entitled to use their asset as they see fit, and you do not get to dictate terms after the fact. Any owner can book from 7 to 11 months out, and nobody can take that away from them. Suggesting one owner should have any extra special privilege after that, or any other owner should be restricted simply based on who's name they put on the reservation, is an affront to every owner's property rights.

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

"woof?!....let's have some fun......you spoke about "data". again/over & over, by t.james comes to mind...
maybe i need to connect the "dots", so other can follow? you are "challenging"- as if "citing facts" are
made up. but on other points, mixing it up via acting as you can't understand the message. it is not
relevant- as my previous posts were based on reading what other members are having trouble with.
did you considered doing what i suggested & re-read what members are posting here?

( for other owners reading....one ex., dvc members posting about arriving to their unit with
"guests" already there----my observations were, thinking how things liked this is happening
especially "hearing/reading" about it happening more than once. )

in general, ....i believe everything another tells me until reality proves other wise. i do
compare previous comments with current ones.

don't know if it was disappointment, anger or delusional ...but i know when we brought blt,
we are not connected to ssr any other home resort. but you never answered my presentation.
instead you distracted via referring to the 7mos. "open season". again, prior to that, ....
how many blt owners are waiting to get ssr? & let's wander & go to the dvc office to check ....
how many ssr owners are planning to get blt. really...to claim all the resorts are the
same under all dvc rules is painting one in a corner. if dvc ( and they have the power because
no resort has legal wording for using other resorts) adopted the policy so no one could
trade, would not bother us in any way/s. in reality, it would make certain resorts go
way up while others would "tank". which is probably "principle" ( play on dvc professional
interests , by dollar!).

ssr..is what i consider a special situation based on many factors. some had to do with blt
hitting the market & large numbers dumped their ssr points , creating very cheap
resales points......& i am saying there should been a better dvc response toward this.

yes, bill..you are correct. this poster asking the question here, had to do my home resort.
in the beginning- i was against david co because it came across as using his own points
to rent/ as a business. but as learn more & more, i now think he is the best offer to
dvc , renters, & owners. then we had some special problems in the beginning, that also
gave me the motivation to start learning. now when i "see/read" threads that are about
dvc ownership , i like to send a message to all the dvc owners here....learning, questioning,
& paying attention to dvc issues...plus feedback....is the best way to get the most out
of your home resort benefits. some of the things i've been reading here is just "shocking"
that dvc is ignoring /taking no action. and as snop pointed out, individual owners do not
hold the power to make changes-no matter how unethical some issues are- stealing for
ex... and i don't think we are going to have any impact until a larger percentage of
owners...are educated on their purchase.

as for snoop, the impression of your comments worry me , in wondering your angles &
exactly what are you trying to prove/protect. worry as in your background & credentials.

oh, bill ..you are sooo right...life is such a blessing to be wasting any time on things not
important..to a person well being-be it physical /mental health. i have been very blessed-
knock on wood. however, one insight i 've had the privilege learning thru my experiences
has to do with "miracles". what i seen...everyone are blessed with the gift of life &
many, many miracles through life...it just many times they are not aware. growing up,
the great outdoors..has always held my fanciness....& this past year, the farm beside
our current property-something i wanted since the early 80's-my very last bid
was the winner! ( it also had near 3,000 road frontage & less than 10 miles from town
so there were 3 developers wanting it too, but for different reason. ) i put my
camera out, & discovered 16 trophies busks-& they were "hanging out"
together. i am most happy, working to take care & protect the wildlife there. in the
last 20 years,cleaning up all the "dumps"--it is amazing to watch how the wild
life has return. there's a red fox, & his tail is long as i can spread my arms. some
of these bucks had the same kind of antlers but only 3/4 years old. but the most
impressive buck i caught on camera was less than one/year old. instead having
"spikes"...he had 4 points....but what was so impressive, were his bases were bigger than
my fists...he is going to be a major trophy in a very big way.

fyi, i though about doing a trip report about our dvc journeys. calling it a "fubu" report-
( for us~by us. ). i think it is off topic, when others, not even dvc members are
doing trip reports on the dvc section..but also s/s of the dvc "condition" , is not
healthy.

 

[spiceycat]

I think SSR is the main problem. I think it was a mistake for Disney to build a humongous resort, way bigger than most of the others, in an undesirable location, so that you've got tons of people buying in there and then not wanting to stay there (OKW was the original and a bit different in that people who purchased there did want to stay there). This puts enormous pressure on the monorail and Epcot resorts for reservations. I could probably get a studio at SSR for next week, lol. If they had built SSR, say for example, where the Swan and Dolphin are, then I feel we wouldn't be having this conversation (I know, I know, not possible because of that stupid lease deal Eisner made, but just for example).

because the land belongs to Disney not the DVC (DVR) -- Disney allowed VWL and BCV - but barely - SSR was build where the disney institue was located. It started out a much smaller resort - but when Disney was doing great they were not willing to give DVC any more land - when the economy went down - got both AKL/V and BLT - they would not have happen if AKL and CR could have rented all their rooms.

Disney finally realizes it makes money with DVC - so it now allowed GF and Polyn.

dvc and wdw resorts were a different section - now I think they are in the same division (not sure)

what DVC can build on and what Disney owns are too different things.

when they got the land for DI to build SSR they were looking where golden oak and the new 4 season is located.

at least SSR is close to DD - if they build where they had originally planned it would not be walkable to anything so count the blessing for ssr

 

[spiceycat]

Good afternoon,

We are interested in booking a studio at BLT, preferably standard view or lake view. Our dates are for 8 nights the week leading up to Memorial Day weekend. We've never been to Disney that time of the year so I'm unsure of how in demand DVC rooms are at that time. We're going to try to rent points.

I'm just curious if we should pay extra to try to book at 11 months, or if we would be okay to wait until 7 months. I would really hate to have pay the extra money at 11 months if there is typically good availability that time of the year. But I also have my heart set on staying at BLT for this trip.

Any help is very much appreciated!

if you want standard view - then 11 months is the only choice. for some reason (not sure why) this year BLT was full in May earlier than it had been - or their is a computer problem and I really believe there is -because when I arrived at 6:00am my room was ready - when I looked at the online system it say nothing was available for that day (the day before I arrived) - guess I just can't imagine anyone leaving BLT before you have too.

Lake view - they vary greatly - sometimes they are available and really believe they might be for May - but with the extra programs that Disney throws who knows?

 

[freediverdude]

because the land belongs to Disney not the DVC (DVR) -- Disney allowed VWL and BCV - but barely - SSR was build where the disney institue was located. It started out a much smaller resort - but when Disney was doing great they were not willing to give DVC any more land - when the economy went down - got both AKL/V and BLT - they would not have happen if AKL and CR could have rented all their rooms.

Disney finally realizes it makes money with DVC - so it now allowed GF and Polyn.

dvc and wdw resorts were a different section - now I think they are in the same division (not sure)

what DVC can build on and what Disney owns are too different things.

when they got the land for DI to build SSR they were looking where golden oak and the new 4 season is located.

at least SSR is close to DD - if they build where they had originally planned it would not be walkable to anything so count the blessing for ssr

That's true, a lot of my deluxe resort stays are from back in the 2002-2005 time period, because they had some pretty good rates during that time/couldn't fill the deluxes at the more outrageous rates apparently. Back in 2002 they were giving away some of the Contemporary hotel rooms for around $100 per night. I paid $121 back then one time, and there were reports of a few people getting a $99 rate. So I guess that must have been when they started planning for BLT and decided to get rid of one of the garden wings. So the downturn right after 9/11 probably affected where DVC got built and what land they used. I still think it wasn't a good decision for the future to put a huge DVC resort in the SSR location.

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

just wanted to "add" some additional input regarding the ssr situation. but first, i like to make
it clear as i can....my observations are never connecting a resort owner with any personal
opinions. i think this is an ongoing challenge seen here....and is a distraction toward
getting more & more owners working toward improving the dvc system.

i have never stayed @ ssr. i have no official opinions in ranking its good/bad points. in
reality & by those expressing their opinions here, my own conclusion regarding all the
dvc resorts have desirable & negative points.

when i referred to ssr as the low-water mark, is only a reference & certain/specific
"conditions" ....that should been better recognized & corrective measures by the
dvc system.

to me, it does not mean that ssr is a lessen resort. but to me, ssr is an illustration
that the whole dvc system is way far out of balance.....that is degrading the dvc
for all owners & is the "problem" behind many different types of issues owners-
are posting here. especially the ones that are repeated, & are the ones that
get my attention. another type of input that i give high consideration to, are
from owners that has been with dvc from the beginning. ( now if i was in
charge of dvc functioning structure, i would seek active input from them ).
the third "measurement" i give merits before posting are things that
should have never happened once. ( one of the biggest factor i feel is
devaluing dvc image, are those things they are letting non-members getting/
getting by with--when they have no right too. esp. since dvc are charging
owners for. )

dvc need to get to work...on corrective measures ..toward rci & putting all the
dvc resorts in balance. as right now, all the responses i see here is dvc
offering verbal reassurances while tolerating the wrong -doings.

* wrong doings is referring to charging owners dues to recovered $$$$ from
e-bay /rci traders & so forth. not one nickel should any owner pay for
non-members.

over a year ago, i submitted a package out lining my concerns over unfair
dues charges, & dvc reassured they would not permit e-bay/rci re-renting
dvc rooms. and yet, not one of these renters posted on any dvc site that
when they arrived dvc cx. their rooms....not matching up.

 

[supersnoop]

* wrong doings is referring to charging owners dues to recovered $$$$ from
e-bay /rci traders & so forth. not one nickel should any owner pay for
non-members.

You really need to do some research on how this all works. Every single reservation available on eBay or RCI comes from a member. The member paid the maintenance fees and then traded out. They covered the dues for that reservation because they benefit from it. Are you saying that an owner who trades out to an RCI resort should be exempt from dues for those points? Because that's a fundamental part of the system, and a point where we'll always disagree.

 

[supersnoop]

"woof?!....let's have some fun......you spoke about "data". again/over & over, by t.james comes to mind...
maybe i need to connect the "dots", so other can follow? you are "challenging"- as if "citing facts" are
made up. but on other points, mixing it up via acting as you can't understand the message. it is not
relevant- as my previous posts were based on reading what other members are having trouble with.
did you considered doing what i suggested & re-read what members are posting here?

"Mixing it up" or "acting as can't understand the message" points out that your message is flawed. You neglect the basic, everyday scenario in favor of the one-off personal reports from folks who either experience a mistake (which is quickly corrected) or have unrealistic expectations.

as for snoop, the impression of your comments worry me , in wondering your angles &
exactly what are you trying to prove/protect. worry as in your background & credentials.

There's no reason to make this personal. Other than owning four DVC contracts, I have no connection whatsoever; and I'm only trying to protect my interest from unfounded accusations and attempts to subvert the language of contracts that over 200,000 people willingly signed.

just wanted to "add" some additional input regarding the ssr situation. but first, i like to make
it clear as i can....my observations are never connecting a resort owner with any personal
opinions. i think this is an ongoing challenge seen here....and is a distraction toward
getting more & more owners working toward improving the dvc system.

This just seems like a rather hypocritical statement. You've clearly drawn lines to individual owners; you just try to mask it as, "in general, these things that individual owners do."

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

where ? was we?....fyi...you responded exactly as i expected. no big deal, because you are not
the focus, no matter how hard the efforts.

hope others are paying attention..as requested, in earlier posts...why wouldn't you provided your
back ground info so we can "see" the group you are from, & therefore, the reasoning bee-hinge
for the motivation that you are currently using as a guide. ( i know , whatever impression you
have for me & how you desire for others to think of you...can't be everything. ( fill in the
rest ). again in simple terms, won't you give your background ---resales, direct,other time shares
renter, renting ...you know? the things connecting your personal interests to dvc . ( not seeking
any personal data. my previous observations were only decided on your presentation. )
however, i understand why the previous "sell" has been forgotten ...so try again.

i am not that important , so get to the real dvc "issues" &
give dvc owners real reasons for dvc wasting owners $. just like the recent posting about
rci owner wanting to sell that timeshare to buy dvc....did you happened to read Jim's
response about trading 4/5 times a year? ( while i am just referencing based on your
earlier "rationalization" for "proof"..."there you go"~ a neutral poster with other
timeshares...making my point. but what i really expecting, if dvc was being
done right...their monitors would report these things,& corrective measures would have been done.

and by accident, this li'post ...also "hit" upon another major concern for all dvc owners....
the fact that dvc failed to recognized this abuse before ever agreeing to any contracts.
why this was over look points directly @ dvc & their top managers that is permitting this.
let' them post their connections to rci ? ( i like to "see" where they really stand---though
their actions are telling all dvc owners.....& exactly why bill posts have the same message
where dvc is heading...

again go back, to the earlier questions..before skipping and ignoring those issues. but
first, give up your background.

 

[supersnoop]

where ? was we?....fyi...you responded exactly as i expected. no big deal, because you are not
the focus, no matter how hard the efforts.

I really wish you would use the quote function so we could tell what you're responding to or talking about.

hope others are paying attention..as requested, in earlier posts...why wouldn't you provided your
back ground info so we can "see" the group you are from, & therefore, the reasoning bee-hinge
for the motivation that you are currently using as a guide. ( i know , whatever impression you
have for me & how you desire for others to think of you...can't be everything. ( fill in the
rest ). again in simple terms, won't you give your background ---resales, direct,other time shares
renter, renting ...you know? the things connecting your personal interests to dvc . ( not seeking
any personal data. my previous observations were only decided on your presentation. )
however, i understand why the previous "sell" has been forgotten ...so try again.

What's your obsession with this information? Will you share your own? Do I need to write a personal ad to satisfy you? I'm in a business completely unrelated to Disney, I do not count them amoung my clients, and I live over 1,000 miles away from either park. I'm completing my fourth resale purchase, all of which you can find in the ROFR threads. I spoke with a guide once. Once. I do not own any other timeshares or vacation properties. I'm heavily involved in my local commuity, where I review, negotiate, and enforce legal agreements as part of my appointed volunteer work.

i am not that important , so get to the real dvc "issues" &
give dvc owners real reasons for dvc wasting owners $. just like the recent posting about
rci owner wanting to sell that timeshare to buy dvc....did you happened to read Jim's
response about trading 4/5 times a year? ( while i am just referencing based on your
earlier "rationalization" for "proof"..."there you go"~ a neutral poster with other
timeshares...making my point. but what i really expecting, if dvc was being
done right...their monitors would report these things,& corrective measures would have been done.

RCI can only trade in because someone else traded out. RCI always seems to get SSR. I doubt it's the only one traded out. As DVC owners, I bet we benefit from that more often than not.

and by accident, this li'post ...also "hit" upon another major concern for all dvc owners....
the fact that dvc failed to recognized this abuse before ever agreeing to any contracts.
why this was over look points directly @ dvc & their top managers that is permitting this.
let' them post their connections to rci ? ( i like to "see" where they really stand---though
their actions are telling all dvc owners.....& exactly why bill posts have the same message
where dvc is heading...

It's not an accident; it's practically the entire basis of the system. You don't get to trade out without allowing others to trade in. That goes for RCI, and, more importantly, for the resorts in the DVC system. Seriously, this "flaw," as you call it, is the basis for all timeshare systems.

again go back, to the earlier questions..before skipping and ignoring those issues. but
first, give up your background.

You're turn.

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

bump~ ( always think of cars when i see people doing this) so i don't give the impression of ignoring you.
also i am asking that you be patient as i think the best way to answer your questions will take a
"2~part presentation".


i was upset over your "personal presentation"- because it gave me the impression you
felt challenged and/or personally connected to my dvc comments. while your personal
resume was/is impressive....i felt mistaken, for giving you the wrong impression. just because
any poster does not agreed/or "see" my point of view .....i see no value to hurt/punish or
force a negative feedback. Bill mentioned shorting life....i believe nothing worst wasting,
than spending a second toward hurting others.

what you will find in most of my postings ...are 2 fact/finding approaches..based on
human dynamics & "different ways of thinking". it is my "hallmark" from work &
the way i live life. take it for what it is "worth", but very successful @ both.

because i believe you are sincere & put true feelings into your principle response, i
will share one example. @ work- using human dynamics to illustrated the value-
of recovery from a life time of "broken dreams/failures". just because there are always
new potential if you don't give up. i was presenting what i like to refer to , "the nuts/bolts
of building a new future for success"....an educational program. he jumped up so fast
it startled me! then he stated "you just changed my life!" this was 20 years ago & he never
been back. most often, all is needed is for someone...to show them the tools for success &
they will respond.

human dynamics..is a term i used to recognized whenever i am referring to a principle/law-
that is effecting a person reasoning abilities especially when connecting ethics, values,beliefs, &
so forth- -- where there are high potential for denial,rationalizations, even desires
resulting...in misunderstandings ...that may result in anger , being hurt, and /or discriminating
against. for ex.; low blood sugars & bipolar behaviors. ( after seeing it repeated over &
over....males who do not accept diabetes , so they are frequently "ignoring" their needs
in diet restrictions often demonstrated bipolar interactions). in order to used a teaching guide -
one needs to have "proof" to back it up....& a good reason for professionals to learn
the values of statistics. i needed a reference to show that "reality in thinking" can be both
a "single point" and /or between 2 margins. why? well it is something...you can "see"
here quite often. esp. leading to anger/hostility....instead of recognizing that in certain
situations, it is possible for 2 different presentations, both be correct. i came up with
a "t-test" while a student. when i shared it with my instructor..she "cut' me off, because
as she said....she didn't want to take credit for using it on some she had. meaning
not only she liked it but gave it high marks for "application". all i am saying, there
are concrete facts of life, that no matter how some will try to manipulate but will
"hold" the same values. then putting them together, it is possible for 2 persons
to observe a single event, & tell 2 different stories...and both be correct. i seen posters
here become hostile because they did not recognize this fact. i have also seen posts
that i didn't think it was meant to hurt but was not written well. and if a reading a post
when not feeling well, have caused me to make mistakes...that i noticed reading
again /later.

why bother learn something...unless yo use it? why in~deeds?! other than wild~life, my
favorite hobby is learning different ways of thinking....especially "human dynamics" because
something i can use in my career. if you "pause", & think about how you do daily routines-
you are relying on your 5 "senses" input. however, most are selecting on one or maybe 2- for
the majority of the time. ( from what i see daily , it is evidence that our schools systems
are failing in educating students in critical developmental areas for entering adulthood.)
if you ever get to observed wild-life, they focus on their most "developed" sensory
perceptions for survival. but it does not mean they won't change if they are feeling
threaten....it is amazing to watch- how they will even "work" together. white/tail
deer have small size brains...but interesting enough, late in the hunting season-
they come out @ night & "tear up" the little trees...anger over their losses. yes, i am
saying there are real lessons one can learn from observations. the point is simple;
"different ways of thinking" is very similar, as using all 5 senses for determining reality.
and the rewards are well worth it...sometimes "life" saving. ( i can give many examples from
experiences )

had a co-worker taking an art class....& had a requirement to write a paper over a famous
painter. she had no idea what to focus on , so she asked me. ( too me, art is just a
different others look @ the world...from their feelings. any~hoot, it just took me a second
to recognized exactly "where" the painter was taking you. ( "what" was not his purpose).
... he/painter- took you "off" the ground and gave you "his" view- as if you was 20 feet off the ground.
i told her, "write" your paper about that....not only did she received an prefect score,
the instructor uses her paper to teach new students. it reminded me....on the first day
of art class, the instructor pro-claimed...."art being so grand,could never be defined by
a single definition." well, one of my favorite coping skill is to rely on simple,easy to remember-
references so i can apply them easily and/or under stress. so isn't it a simple truth, art is
just the ways mankind decorates the world?

one of the biggest/"stuck in the mud"/ challenges for improving mental health is all the
stereo types, quackery, discrimination, & fears that acts toward ignorance. therefore,
one of the best counter measure...is a simple but resisted to manipulation..."reality
orientation". but what is reality?..anything that was true in the past,
that is true today, & will be true in the future. " i won't give the details but i can give examples
how successful "reality orientation" can change life for the better & restore mental
health. in people reality, every single person on earth....has differences, in all kinds of
ways & levels...but underneath the presentations, we are "more" ( stressing the ""more"")-
alike/similar.....especially in our physical needs...thus teaching our youth the value of recognizing/
developing not only their bodies, technical knowledge...but esp. "what" makes up
their value system.....will provide them with the education.....to make better
life choices...& prevent mental illness.. even in physics we continue to make serious mistakes...
human beings are very fragile, no matter how strong we try to make our bodies....because "we"
are the most complicated life forms on earth. for one ex., head injuries from football.
( i read a great article done by "time". ( wow-time does great work like their
2007 article on human addictions). i also enjoy football. however, they are focusing
all their efforts on helmets safety....just look @ the changes. what they need is
to focus on- "all the potential factors" resulting in injuries....instead just preventing the
collisions---they need to look @ the "heating effect" . heating weakens the vessels to
endure the collisions. ( making something as simple as using ice packs to the head
prevent a "bled" from happening ...after any helmet to helmet collision, regardless
if showing s/s or not. )

ok? you did offered "your turn". while i think you are sincere, i also think you are
mistaken,especially about my intentions. any~hooter, this is short version--but why?
just because "these" make up the same way i am looking @ the dvc "is" and the ways it
should be, and "seeing" the corrective measures- for improving the dvc system.
dvc can do better via thru legal agreements, like in the way they are permitting the
rci trading. ask any owner if they think it could/should be better? and why should
just a few rci owners get 4/5 trades while others can't get a single one-even if
their resorts are not on the trading list...add all these things together isn't hard
to see dvc is a sick puppy. so why exactly those in charge are denying dvc
treatments? ( just me thinking out loud...not toward anyone but dvc )
and since dvc "bread & butter, including its jam"...will always be their direct sales/owners...
( reality orientation ),
then they are the same hallmark for their primary goal...if going forward.

again i see no value in challenging you and or any other poster for that matter, but the dvc system.
owners here are posting concerns/problems & some of them are terrible shocking. terrible as
in costing owners $$$ & effecting their quality. the solutions /corrective measures are
numerous & within the structure.....so why isn't the dvc system improving has me (an
owner) wondering "where/who's" their motivation. it's not about the mistakes/problems....it is the
fact, they continue to be "ongoing" & never improving.

nor do i blame this poster for wanting to get the best resorts for the price of a value.
to me, that makes $$$. however, not when disney/dvc keeps making their great
profits as if he was paying top dollar....but the "differences" are being paid by dvc owners/
me,?!!!#! personally, i think it is wrongdoing/tort by dvc to permit when they are
adding $$$$ to our dues.

as for your background, while impressive...i was seeking your "dvc" background~ dvc owner?
direct,resales -other timeshares, how you are using them with dvc, how many years ,
do you do renting? how many resorts you own @ , past history of changing ownership ,
did you keep one resort and added another, direct owner but second dvc via resales...
& so forth. i am saying the ways a person defined his /her ownership also effects
their values of such. i was here, when ssr owners dump /flooded the market. it
sickening that dvc did not respond when some boasted of buying all those points to start a business.
see e-bay.
this is why dvc need to start responding and stop the renting outside the home resort- to redirect
& protect owners who wanted to trade @ 7mos. for their vacations.....i want dvc to
demonstrate they are for dvc owners, not professional renters/renters. bread & butter.

too me, dvc cost way too much monies for them to be so inept ..by choice or not.
( if one apply human dynamics with reality orientation.....demonstrating the sad shape dvc
has become),still the solutions are quite simple & easy...if they are willing to
do different ways thinking.

again the reason for requesting "yours" timeshares background/experiences ....was to seek
your input, not to have discouraged it.