Biggest disappointment at WDW......

berkshire mike

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was the number of grown men who would not give up thier seat to an older person, woman or small child.
I can't tell you the number of times I saw an eldery women holding on for dear life while a 20-40 year old man sat right next to her. Whats wrong with people???? Same thing happen to my 7 year old daughter on our last night. We were leaving the MK at about midnight a the bus was full, here is my daughter hanging on while this 30ish guy is sitting watch her trying to keep her balance.
My 11 year old son and I gave up our seats many times over the course of the week.
 
I agree with you there. Some people are just not very courtious. I am 20 and know that when someone needs a seat I give mine up. My legs are perfectly fine to stand another 5 minutes on a bus. Some people just dont learn though. Selfishness is what it is.
 
Well not just grown men, basically anyone that's capable of standing should be able to give up a seat to someone who needs it, like an elderly person, a young child, or someone holding a baby.

When my family goes in August, I'm making sure everyone knows that we are all capable of standing and should offer to give up our seats to anyone who needs it more. August is a very crowded month and almost every bus trip some people have to stand. Besides my parents, the rest of us are 17-21, so I know we can deal with 20 or so minutes of standing in a bus.
 
I'd call it rude!!!
My mother would kick my you-know-what all over Disney if she saw me do something like that.
 

berkshire mike said:
was the number of grown men who would not give up thier seat to an older person, woman or small child.

Before I get too much into this topic, let me make it clear that as a healthy 32 year old woman, I would (and do) offer my seat to elderly people, people holding children, pregnant women, etc. My husband and I have both done it many times and we will teach our son to do it as well. It is the polite thing to do in that situation, no question.

However, I wouldn't every expect anybody to give up a seat for me, just because I'm a woman. :confused3 And I wouldn't expect my husband to get up and give his seat to a healty woman who had no problem standing.

And, I will also say that, if I was carrying a little one - or had little ones with me - and it looked like we would have to stand, I would wait for the next bus. Yes, it would be polite if someone would offer up their seat - but the safety of my child on the bus is ultimately my responsibility, not some strangers. So, I'd wait for the next bus. And, we've done just that many times on the two trips we've made with our little guy. We wanted to be able to sit with him, so we just didn't get on the bus if there were no seats. Seems pretty simple to me. I wouldn't get on and just hope that someone would be kind enough to hop up and let me sit. Sure, it is the polite thing to do, but honestly, if you get on a packed bus and then don't have a spot to sit - you really have only yourself to blame. If you get on a bus that is standing room only, you should be prepared to stand. If some kind, considerate soul is there and offers you their seat, that's wonderful, but I wouldn't get on expecting it.
 
Yes, it's annoying... yes, it's rude... but can I offer another perspective?

Back in Thanksgiving November 03, we had only a limited amount of time to tour the World, and we were going commando at the time. Well, by day 2, DH who is 6' 3" and 230lbs hurt his foot to the point it was difficult to walk. He trudged on but we would have to do lots of stops along the way. During the bus ride back to the resort he more often than not sit down because he would have never made it standing up in a swaying bus. He just couldn't.

Now... if anybody was in the bus saw him... you'd think he was a heel. But he wasn't. He'd gladly give up his seat for people. But that trip he just couldn't do it, and you couldn't see that he couldn't do it because he wasn't wearing a cast or had crutches or wasn't in a wheelchair.

We've gladly given up our seats many times but there are other situations too, you know.
 
Also a #1 pet peeve of mine too! I have seen pregnant women, women holding infants, eldery, etc, trying to stand on the bus while people just sit there oblivious. Once when I was pregnant my dh actually asked out loud if anyone would give up their seat for me... after a few moments of silence nobody did. So dh had us get off and wait for the next bus.
 
I guess my biggest disappointment are the trams from the parking lots. I like riding them but people with these mammoth strollers always hold everyone else up. It would seem to me Disney could add another tram car for JUST strollers. You'd put the stroller in the "baggage car" and retrieve it once the ride is over. It would free up a lot of space on the trams and might save some time by not having to wait for someone to fold up a stroller. Some of the strollers I've seen are about the size of a lawn mower...that's just too big to try and squeeze into a row. :rolleyes:
 
I can see the elderly people, but a 7 year old? I don't think so--her legs are younger than mine!
 
I don't think people are raised with that courtsy. We were up North watching a parade, behind me was a gang of elderly women. Two were very old and sharing one chair. We did'nt have any chairs to offer but I noticed the people next to us weren't using there's and they were all under 30. So I ask if I could us one(i'm a flirt). The man thinking he was going to get a bit of conversation let me have one of the chairs. Boy did he look upset when I gave it to the womam to sit down. My children allways give up there seats if someone else needs it more. Sometimes I think its not that there not willing to go out of there way, people just have a way of not noticing. Tina
 
On a brighter note, both times I had to stand on a bus a nice man offered me his seat. Once I politely thanked him but still stood (he was pretty elderly, so there was no way) but the other time my dd 8 wasn't feeling well and I took him up on it and put her in my lap. Sometimes I think people are just so tired and sick of standing and waiting in lines that when they do get that seat at the end of a long day they just sit down and zone out. And a note to TiggerLvsPooh: That is awful! I can't believe a whole bus would sit there in silence. My thing is that when the buses are crowded at the very least I put smallish 8 year old on my lap to make more room for somebody else. DH and our 10 year old always give up their seats to somebody else.
 
I guess one of my pet peeves is seeing a 1 or 2 year old taking up a seat when they could very well sit on a parents lap. We always have our kids sit on our laps to save room. Our 8 year old doesn't anymore as he is to big but you bet your bottom dollar he will stand if someone is in need. (as would the rest of us of course)
 
pearlieq said:
I can see the elderly people, but a 7 year old? I don't think so--her legs are younger than mine!

DD was 2 weeks shy of 7 on our trip, and she had a very hard time finding something low enough to hold on to. DH & I both held on to her, but it was a very difficult 20 min. ride. After that, we never got on a bus that was SRO.
 
cobbler said:
Our 8 year old doesn't anymore as he is to big but you bet your bottom dollar he will stand if someone is in need.


I think that's part of the problem. People have different ideas of who "needs" a seat and who should give up seats to whom. Here's someone saying their 8 year old would always stand to give a seat to someone in need . . . and the op is complaining that no one gave up their seat to his 7 year old. :confused3


angel's momma said:
DD was 2 weeks shy of 7 on our trip, and she had a very hard time finding something low enough to hold on to. DH & I both held on to her, but it was a very difficult 20 min. ride. After that, we never got on a bus that was SRO.

And that makes perfect sense. If you don't want to risk standing, just wait for the next bus.
 
While I've been the lady they offer a seat to (I always decline..although I realize a person in their 50's looks old to some LOL), I've also been in a seat that I've waited 2-3 buses for. After a really long day, I'm just not always ready to give up my seat:(
I think if it was really important to me, that I have a seat (older, pregnant), I would just wait for the next bus, and not expect someone who may be exhausted, or have an unseen reason, to give up a seat for me or mine. Obviously, if someone is having a problem getting on the bus in the first place, and it's obvious they have to sit (I was climbing mountains through most of my pregnancies..I'm talking about a handicap or age), that is something different, and I have seen the bus driver tell the people in the front seats to please get up, that those seats are needed. After all, most people do walk Disney all day. A sleeping child in a parents arms, is another reason for me to give up my seat..for safety..and it's harder for them to wait for another bus, with a heavy child in their arms.
I'm not saying I haven't given up my seat, because I have, but I also wondering while I'm standing for 15-20 minutes, and being pushed all around, why they didn't just wait for the next bus. Flame away, I can take it LOL!
 
It's easy to judge but not always right...after all, I once had a friend who had a fake leg. No one could tell, esp since he wore pants all the time. He got fed up with all the "ugly, judgemental" stares he got from people when he'd park in the handicapp parking that one day, he took off his foot and showed a man, who had angrily walked up to him, demanding why someone who is in perfect health couldn't leave the parking to those that needed it?

In other words, there may be other reasons why people don't give up their seat...other than rudeness. Before you judge get the facts or better yet...wait for a bus that isn't so crowded.
 
On our last trip in Dec I saw a man on the bus as it drove away from MK, going to PC, hold his toddler and trying to struggle with the stroller as well. I saw many people capable of helping him but obviously no one wanted to help. I just hoped the stroller fell on some one on the ride back. Maybe it would make them think twice about helping out some one else who is in need. Besides, some of the best moments at DW are those when you "Share the Magic" with others. Aren't yours?
 
On the other hand, a man sitting in front of me with his son asked a lady standing with a three or four year old if the little boy wanted to sit on his knee. The boys played with their snapping dinosaur heads together and taked about armadillos. It was cute...

...but, I don't know how I'd feel about my child sitting on some strange man's lap... :earseek:
 
Harmony said:
It's easy to judge but not always right...after all, I once had a friend who had a fake leg. No one could tell, esp since he wore pants all the time. He got fed up with all the "ugly, judgemental" stares
In that instance, no one would prob give up a seat, only because they have no idea the man needed them too. We have a friend with an artificial leg, and he would be the first one to give up his seat. I agree it's not always obvious, but I don't think that would be the fault of the person in the seat.
But you are correct, you can't always tell when someone needs a seat to be given up, so perhaps if they have one of the cards Disney gives out, they could show that to the bus driver, and he'll ask someone in those first seats to please move.
 

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