BIG BROTHER 17!!! SUMMER 2015!!! Spoilers Welcome!!!

Vanessa tearing up, what was that?
She hardly looks like someone who would cry over something that wasn't a huge deal.
She just didn't want to get "blood on her hands" as she put it. So she went way out there going after Jeff.
Yeah. She should have just thrown Meg up against James if she wanted James out and then he'd be the only one pissed at her but he'd be out so no blood on her hands...or she should have just thrown Audrey up and given the people what they wanted and nobody would even blink at that so no blood on her hands. Duh. What she did...now which ever guy on the block stays (looks like James) will be gunning for her. Duh.
 
So... not as much a Vanessa fan after tonight's episode. She's just over-the-top (and over playing it). Still like Austin. Don't get how people think Jeff is playing a great social game? I think he was dumb to talk so much to so many people. Like Austin (or was it Vanessa?) said, 'he doesn't know what people's true relationships are in the house'. Johnny Mac is my fave and I agree with PP that he is really smart and downplaying that. Jason is growing on me too. He is really perceptive.

Total agree with everything. No idea what happened with Vanessa this week but not really liking her much right now.
 
I think Austin is jealous of Jeff.
Oh yea...for sure. He said in his DR "Goodbye message" to Jeff (Rachel-style): "Nobody gets between me and MY twins". He has it bad for Liz. Vanessa is not helping any. She told him that she thinks Liz is really into him. That's not what Liz said at all. Vanessa also told him that Julia liked him too, but not as much as Liz. o_O He was totally livid the other night on the feeds because Liz was in the bed with Jeff talking. He was so mad she was under the covers with him. (Which, If Liz knew what Jeff was supposedly doing to Julia last week, Liz probably wouldn't be in the bed with him)

I hope John gets HOH and nominates the 2 that put him up as a pawn. He can tell them that they are just "pawns" :-)
 
These people think they are playing such a strategic game. Seems like most of them don't have a clue. I also agree that they need to split up Shelli and Clay probably Shelli first.
 

I really hope Liz knocks Shelli off the block, I can't handle another week of Clay and Shelli laying in that bed again.
 
Wonder if John is going up again as a pawn. Aren't Liz, Shelli, Vanessa, Clay, Austin and Audrey all together in an alliance? It would make sense to keep Audrey as she is a non factor. I don't see much of Steve or Becky are they just floaters?
 
Not too happy with who won HOH. Was hoping John would win. And maybe Meg. I think Jason and James are at risk of going home this week (I like Jason so I hope not him). And floaters: Jackie, Steve and Becky- they don't make any impression on me so they can go.
 
I wonder when rest of the house guests will realize there is a tight alliance in the house and get their act together and start something. I think it is really boring watching one big alliance just pick off players every week.
 
Aren't Liz, Shelli, Vanessa, Clay, Austin and Audrey all together in an alliance? It would make sense to keep Audrey as she is a non factor.

They are but not really Audrey I don't think.

Vanessa and John have been my favorites so far but Vanessa is starting to annoy me a bit. Although I would have been mad at Austin last week for throwing that competition, too. Austin is a bit creepy and he needs to keep his anger in check.
 
My brother is a professional poker player and the night BB started I did not even tell him Vanessa's name he was like "oh that is Vanessa, she is a really good poker player, but slightly annoying." He was glad she would be out of the poker circuit for the summer. I can really see her using her poker skills to lay low in the beginning assess everyone's game play and then start making her moves. However once she gets comfortable, she can start to get annoying and a little bit arrogant.

John annoyed me in the beginning but I have really warmed up to him. He is so funny and should not be discounted as a player as he kills it on the POV comps.
 
These people are driving me crazy. Shelli is going crazy today because of no sleep. She is really really confused and snapping at Clay. The last plan I heard (it changes every couple minutes) is that Shelli is putting up Jason and Johnny Mac (Johnny Mac will throw it...UGGGGGG) and Liz is putting up Jackie and James. Shelli wants Jason to go home. They are all talking about targeting Becky because they believe she was the extra vote for Jeff. I hope for Liz's sake they never find out it was her!!! Talk of Audrey as possible backdoor if Jason won POV. Shelli doesn't want them to because she pledged loyalty to her.

They had to get Vanessa up there to tell them what to do. These people are cowards. They don't want "blood on their hands" or to be a target. WTH? And it drives me crazy when they are running their scenarios they will say "We could put up 'a Meg' or 'a Jason' ". How many Megs and Jason's are there? HaHa

Jeff reels are on so I think they are nominating now. I will update when I find out for sure.
 
If above happens: Johnny Mac should stop throwing it. He needs to make alliance with Jason and someone, maybe Meg (and Jackie, Steve or Becky) . Then he and Jason should fight to win and they'll have to send James or Audrey home. And for goodness sake they (John, Jason, Meg, Jackie, Steve, Becky...definitely John though) need to win HOH. Time to step it up.
 
If above happens: Johnny Mac should stop throwing it. He needs to make alliance with Jason and someone, maybe Meg (and Jackie, Steve or Becky) . Then he and Jason should fight to win and they'll have to send James or Audrey home. And for goodness sake they (John, Jason, Meg, Jackie, Steve, Becky...definitely John though) need to win HOH. Time to step it up.
It would be a good idea but Jackie, Steve, and Becky are just floating along. I don't think any of them have any game. I think they also need to bring James in as he is also on the outs. If they could band together (John, Meg, James, Jason, Steve, Jackie, and Becky) they would have the numbers.
 
I'm so surprised that Clay and Shelli haven't raised any concerns as a couple? Usually couples are targeted. Who knows?
 
I'm surprised that Becky isn't in an alliance. She seems really nice, approachable and a good team player. The players must know something that viewers do not.
 
OMG. They haven't had the POV ceremony yet. The plan is that Vanessa will save Jason and Shelli will put up Audrey in his place. The whole house wants her gone. Yesterday Audrey was a hot mess. She had arguments with Shelli, Clay, and Vanessa. They called her out on all her lies. After that, she went to try to start an alliance with Jason, James, Becky, Meg, and Jackie to flip the house and go after Shelli, Clay, and Vanessa. James told Shelli and Clay about it, so that blew up. Today Audrey has been in the DR for over 3 hours now and everyone is speculating whether she is quitting (or Grodner is trying to find the diamond power of veto or Coup d'etat or something for her :teeth:). Austin is mad because it is delaying Liz coming back into the house. I have no idea what will happen! At one time they were about the have the Veto ceremony but said there was sound issues so they put it off.
 












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