BEWARE Campo Portofino!!!

karen1

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Although this was an extremely upsetting experience I was not going to post if my very simple request was honored by both PBH and Kids Nite OUt that runs Campo Portofino. But since neither obviously much cares about their guests/clients, I feel compelled to tell my story.


On June 25, 2005, my husband and I signed our 3 children, ages 9,6,and 4 into Campo Portofino along with our friends and their children ages 6 and 5, so we could enjoy an adults only evening at Emerils (booked months in advance). We signed in the kids, choose their meals for the evening and headed to the boat dock to get the boat to City Walk.

While waiting for the boat, mu husband gets a call on his cell phone from Josh at the club stating my 4 year old was only 3 and we would have to pick her up immediately. I tell him that I will go back and straighten it out.

When I arrive there, Josh the only employee at the camp who had checked all of the kids in for us informs me that he asked my daughter how old she was and she said "3, I mean 4". I said to him that may be because her b-day was on Monday June 21 and this was Friday June25 and sometimes kids (geez even we adults!!) can make that error when for the past 365 days she has been 3 and now has to change the "new age". I call my 4year old over and say how old are you and she says 4.


He said that even though she repeatedly told him after that that she was four he had to go with her first answer and thus she would have to leave. I asked him to go in the other room and ask my 9 year old daughter when her sister was born and he told me a lot of parents tell their kids to lie. I told him I was not one of them and called out my older daughter who proceeded to tell him her sister was born on June 21, 2000. He proceeded to tell me that my youngest child "WAS 3".

Now I AM getting upset and he tells me he is calling security and I tell him to call a manager while he is at it. So security comes and we wait for a manager who arrives, listens to the story and says to Josh he doesn't see any reason why my daughter, who even looks 4 shouldn't be able to stay. Josh proceeds to tell the manager that he can not keep her for insurance reasons. The manager says to him how can you take information from a 4 yr old to be more accurate than that from an adult. Josh replies "she is 3 --people lie and tell their kids to lie."


At this point I am making 2 other couples late for a reservation and I am not leaving any of my children with this person calling me and my daughter liars to our faces. So we take the kids and the manager tell me he will call his boss to find out what his jurisdiction is, since Campo Portofino is run by KIds Nite Out an outside company. I tell him I have no time to wait and givehim my cell phone number.


Lucky for us a couple we were with had their 12 yr old and 3 yr old in their room (because the 3 yr old was not old enough for the kids club!!) and offered for us to leave all 5 kids (our3 and friends2) in the room with them--which we did.


Got a call a t Emerils from PBH manager saying he should have overrid Josh's call and allowed my daughter to stay and that he was sorry he didn't know that at the time. Itold him I wouldn't have left my kids with him anyway.


HERE"S WHERE THE STORY GETS EVEN BETTER........

After returning to the hotel, I asked my 9 yr old what had happened after we dropped them off at the kids club.
She said they were all in a room and Josh told my youngest to come with him into the area behind the check in desk (basically another room) to tell her something. She said he did not close the door. However he sat her on a stool and started to ask her how old she was. MY 6 yr old son who is very protective of his sister told me he was sitting right next to the door and keep asking her over and over how old she was. then he asked her if she just had a birthday. So basically he took my daughter into another room to INTERROGATE her--when I had dropped her off to a recreation center for painting, computers,etc. There is no reason why this could not have been done while we parents were still there. And what still haunts me is as I left I said to the 3 of them "make sure you listen to Josh". Never could I have imagined that he would remove her from the security of her older brother and sister and friends to interrogate her about her age and them use that info against her. What if her first response had been "I am 8" Would he have taken that as the truth too?




The bottom line is when I told the manager again about this interrogation and then the director of the Kids Nite OUt, I told them both that I am not someone who wants something for free, all I want is a written apology to me and my daughter for calling us liars when we were telling the truth. So now it is almost 2 weeks later and we arrive home from vacation and in the mail is NOTHING!!! from either one--both of whom promised me an apology.

So today they both received the copy of my daughter's birth certificate along with my feelings on the lack of respect shown to us that could have easily been rectified with a simple apology.

Sorry for the length--but please if your children are 4---DO NOT leave them in Campo Portofino at least when Josh is working--unless you prepare your child for INTERROGATION 101!!!
 
It sounds like Portofino at least tried to handle the situation but Kids Night Out has some problems. Thanks for letting us know.
 
Wow, that is a really disturbing story. I have been planning on leaving my 3 kids (youngest is 4!) at RPR's Mariner's Camp, which I assume is probably run by the same company. It does sound like the PBH manager wasn't too bad, but of course the people parents are most concerned with being "good" people are the actual child care-givers....and Josh clearly should NOT be in such a position. I think you did the right thing to complain and to continue to complain for the sake of other parents coming after you. We had a bad experience with a Fairy Godmother's sitter on our last Disney trip, and I feel guilty that I didn't call to complain...because some poor unsuspecting family after us probably got the same incompetent sitter. When we make reservations for Mariner's camp I will definitely ask about this policy and if Josh (do you know his last name?) is still employed as a care-giver. Please post when you get a reply and thanks for the warning!

snoozn
 

Originally posted by sn00zn
Wow, that is a really disturbing story. I have been planning on leaving my 3 kids (youngest is 4!) at RPR's Mariner's Camp, which I assume is probably run by the same company. It does sound like the PBH manager wasn't too bad, but of course the people parents are most concerned with being "good" people are the actual child care-givers....and Josh clearly should NOT be in such a position. I think you did the right thing to complain and to continue to complain for the sake of other parents coming after you. We had a bad experience with a Fairy Godmother's sitter on our last Disney trip, and I feel guilty that I didn't call to complain...because some poor unsuspecting family after us probably got the same incompetent sitter. When we make reservations for Mariner's camp I will definitely ask about this policy and if Josh (do you know his last name?) is still employed as a care-giver. Please post when you get a reply and thanks for the warning!

snoozn

Could you tell us what happened with your sitter snoozn? It is good to know these things JIC we were deciding on leaving our son with someone. I highly doubt we would be comfortable with doing that but I would like to know first. I have heard good stuff about Fairy Godmothers and I would hate to have something bad happen to my son without making an educated decision.......Plus my son has a speech delay and he will not be able to tell details if something happened just "mommy ****oo" etc.
 
I made it very clear to the manager of the hotel that I did not want anything for free.

And I should mention when he called me while dining at Emerils that he offered to send her milk and cookies to our room. I told him she was in our friends room with 6 other children so he sshould send enough cookies for all the kids and he did.

I made it clear that I only wanted to be sure this would not happen to another family. If they want proof of a childs age they should require birth certificates which I would gladly have brought if I knew it was necessary.

The bottom line is the only thing I asked for was a written apology--which costs them nothing but the cost of postage. I see on these boards people get huge comps for the smallest inconveniences, but I did not and still do not want that. Just the apology--I guess that was TOO MUCH to ask for.
 
3DisneyNuts, I read on the website for KIds Night out that they do the in room sitting at Disney as well as at Universal.

I must say the idea of one person(stranger) alone with my kids in a hotel room freaks me out.

That's why I like the idea of a supervised club. My older 2 kids stayed at the HRH Kids club last year (of course my youngest did not because she was only 3 and stayed in the room with grandma) and loved it --there were several people on duty when we checked them in.

I must say when we dropped the kids off this time at Campo Portofino, I was a bit surprised to only see one person working. The whole idea of the club was that there were several adults around so I felt more secure about leaving them. But I figured we were dropping a total of 5 kids and that they would always be together--be careful what you assume will happen when you leave.
 
Originally posted by karen1
3DisneyNuts, I read on the website for KIds Night out that they do the in room sitting at Disney as well as at Universal.

I must say the idea of one person(stranger) alone with my kids in a hotel room freaks me out.

That's why I like the idea of a supervised club. My older 2 kids stayed at the HRH Kids club last year (of course my youngest did not because she was only 3 and stayed in the room with grandma) and loved it --there were several people on duty when we checked them in.

I must say when we dropped the kids off this time at Campo Portofino, I was a bit surprised to only see one person working. The whole idea of the club was that there were several adults around so I felt more secure about leaving them. But I figured we were dropping a total of 5 kids and that they would always be together--be careful what you assume will happen when you leave.


Yeah I understand completely what you mean. We are cruising this NOV and we were going to take advantage of the club for kids (forgetting the name right now) and because that is a group thing as well I wasn't thinking twice about it but now I am a little freaked. It is with DCL but even still they are all strangers to use KWIM? I don't think I could ever leave Chris alone with a sitter since he is an only child also.
 
Sounds like Josh needs to find a new line of work.
 
I too am sorry you had to put yourself and your children through that ordeal! It sounds to me, on the Manager's end, that he has an indecisive personality. I guarantee someone with a strong sense of right and wrong and customer service ethic knows that "doing the right thing" will build great customer satisfaction which leads to overall brand loyalty!

He should have overwhelmed you on the spot and made you feel that WOW factor! By hesitating, he gave the employee the power to make a customer feel not only unappreciated but, wronged. That is HIS shortcoming... You sound like a Good person... not berating or ranting, just shocked. Good for you that you didn't leave your kids with that "Counselor"!
 
We had a very similar thing happen at Poly where a CM told my daughter and I that he thought we were lying. We did like the silent majority, nothing, but we will never go back.
You should demand more than an apology now that you have sent the birth certificate and haven't received an answer. Try to go up the food chain.
 
The DCL clubs are great! More than a few college graduates work in the clubs at all times. I would never leave my child (especially a girl) with just one male counselor.

I am sorry that this happened to you and that your dinner was ruined.

Did the 12 year old keep all the rest of the kids, or was there an adult sitter in the room? :eek:
 
i am so sorry that you went thru that and your daughter. how horrifying to think that he interrogated her. she is 4 and like you said, even adults can't remember how old they are especially right after you have a birthday. also, how dare they imply that just because others lie, that you and your children were lying. shame on them. i hope that you guys still managed to have a good time at universal and not let people like josh spoil it.
 
I do not know if I could have handled the situation as well as you did......bravo.
 
Thanks for posting this, I am now reconsidering leaving my boys there next week. My youngest is also 4 and if asked would probably say he was 2 (speech delay as well). It was absolutely inappropriate for him to question her. Makes you wonder what other inappropriate things are said to them.
 
Originally posted by zaxmom
Thanks for posting this, I am now reconsidering leaving my boys there next week. My youngest is also 4 and if asked would probably say he was 2 (speech delay as well). It was absolutely inappropriate for him to question her. Makes you wonder what other inappropriate things are said to them.
Yeah and could you imagine our children being questioned and not being able to answer back appropriately. I mean any 4 year old would be traumatized by this but a speech delayed kid could not even attempt to fight back. Crap any kid should not have to argue with an adult. This guy should be fired!
 
Josh doesn't exactly sound like the type I'd have left my kids with either. You sure did the right thing by pulling them out of there!!

I had to laugh tho' when you said "What would he have done if she said she was 8"

When my youngest was 3 - his older brother was 8.. and for the ENTIRE year that he was 3 whenever asked how old he was the answer was "EIGHT" .... I really had to laugh out loud at your comment!!
 
Just an update on the situation......

After emailing and faxing my daughter's birth certificate to PBH and Kids Nite Out on Thurs and telling them I was shocked that I had not received the apology from either one of them, I did receive a reply from the owner/director of Kids Nite Out.

She said she was on vacation and perhaps should have had someone in her office handle it but because she spoke to me directly the day after the incident ,she wanted to take care of it herself. She will be in the office on Mon July 12 and I should be receiving a FED ex from her a day of two later. We'll see.

As for PBH, the manager was supposedly writing an incident report the night this occured and that I would hear something. I guess because they already have my $$$, I am no longer a priority. Still not any reply from that hotel.
 
Karen
Thanks for keeping us updated. If you're getting something fed-exed, that sounds like the Kids Night Out lady is taking things pretty seriously. Don't feel like you are going overboard in continuing to complain. You are definitely helping the family's coming after you in making their decisions, and hopefully in getting rid of employees like Josh who shouldn't be working with children in the first place!
3DisneyNuts--I will pm you about our Fairy Godmother experience. Also, there was a thread about Fairy Godmother's and Kids Night Out on the Disney for Families Board within the last month that you might be able to find.

snoozn
 
How about copying this thread and mailing it to UPPER management of both places. Tell them just WHO is reading your story.
Word of mouth is very powerful advertising. They need to know how many of us rely on others actual experiences.
 














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