Be our Guest to serve wine/beer for dinner

[a11ie]

I guess I am just thinking...
If it Ain't broke, Don't fix it...

MK has always been wonderful without the presence of alcohol. And while I don't think bringing it into one restaurant will unravel the very fabric of The MK, I do think that since it was against Walt's, the very wonderful man behind the place we love so much, wishes that we should at least respect that.

I, for one, cant imagine a bottle of beer being more satisfying than sharing an ice cream cone with my little bud. I can save the drinking for another day.

But to each their own, I suppose. It's already happening. And can I also say, we will OF COURSE be dining at BOG, I'll just be tipping back my kiddie cocktail.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I agree wholeheartedly. But then, I'll also never understand why people feel the need or desire to drink beer or the like at amusement parks, esp. if it's hot. MK is a magical place for kids - alcohol doesn't jive with the spirit of it to me. I'm sure some will argue that adults should be able to have fun too, but if you can't have fun at MK w/o a drink, then you might have bigger issues.

I totally agree....alcohol is served all over the world..if you cant enjoy 1 park without it..theres a personal issue going on!


Saddly a bit of the magic and pixie dust has left the MK...............I am sure Walt is sheding a a tear up there!

 

[buffettgirl]

there's already a nice long thread on the restaurant forum where Walt has shed all the tears he's shedding from his cryogenically frozen eyeballs and where people don't NEED a drink to enjoy a park because if they do a personal issue, and where everyone is getting drunk and peeing in the bushes, and WWWW (what would walt want) is the phrase of the week.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2992193

 

[justgeorgi]

While on vacation I look forward to a few drinks. Normally that is while walking around the World Showcase. I truly enjoy La Cava in Mexico and look forward to it during the entire planning process going into a trip. We are counting down to Food & Wine as I type The next trip will be a girls only trip to celebrate my daughters 21st birthday so that she can imbibe around the World Showcase

BTW she was raised on Disney..taking her first trip at 15 months old. We have zero issue with MK serving alcohol. If a parent wants an ice cold beer that is THEIR choice. As in everything in life, everyone has an opinion about what the person next to them is doing. As long as they are mature and responsible I say let the legal adults enjoy their vacations. I don't "need" a drink but I do enjoy them.

 

[skater]

I'm not sure why I feel a little sad about this. I have had a drink in every other park down there - and enjoyed it . I think I just liked the uniqueness of it. It was something that set MK apart. Sort of like not having to serve beer at a 5 yr old's birthday party and not having to pull around a wagon load of beer to trick or treat (sorry, that's a pet peeve of mine).

I don't really think it will impact my trip one way or the other, and when they start serving alcohol throughout the MK (and we all know they will), I will probably enjoy a drink now and then. It just feels a little like losing a little wonderful piece of history.

 

[Jenny3]

I agree wholeheartedly. But then, I'll also never understand why people feel the need or desire to drink beer or the like at amusement parks, esp. if it's hot. MK is a magical place for kids - alcohol doesn't jive with the spirit of it to me. I'm sure some will argue that adults should be able to have fun too, but if you can't have fun at MK w/o a drink, then you might have bigger issues.

LOL, when it's hot is when an ice cold beer tastes the best!

I'm perfectly fine with it - and I'm not a big drinker. It's perfectly customary and acceptable to enjoy a glass of wine or a beer with dinner. And I really hate the notion that it designates a 'problem' or an 'issue' if you do so. Not everyone drinks to get drunk.

 

[fuzzlekins]

LOL, when it's hot is when an ice cold beer tastes the best!

I'm perfectly fine with it - and I'm not a big drinker. It's perfectly customary and acceptable to enjoy a glass of wine or a beer with dinner. And I really hate the notion that it designates a 'problem' or an 'issue' if you do so. Not everyone drinks to get drunk.

No they don't but some do take it too far. Up til now, that wasn't even an option at MK. As this one restaurant becomes every restaurant and so on, that reality could change. It's unfortunate. And I was never implying that anyone who drinks at an amusement park has a drinking problem - it's just I don't see why it's a big deal that a park remain dry. It's not "necessary" to have alcohol wherever there are adults, but our society seems to think it is necessary. I think that's flawed. And it sort of feels like a little piece of the innocence is gone from MK with this change.

As for drinking when it's hot ... Alcohol heats you up inside, makes you have to pee more, etc. In reality, alcohol is about the worst thing to drink in the heat. I know people think cold beer in the heat, but to me, that wouldn't be refreshing. Then again, I've never been a beer drinker. I'm more of a fruity or frozen drinker, but I even prefer those without alcohol really. Just not a fan, but that doesn't really have anything to do with my opinion on MK adding alcohol at BOG.

 

[joedplumber]

Perhaps it also has to do with the fact of a weak dollar. Europeans and South Americans are visiting the US at record numbers and that includes Disney. With the exchange rate Disney is a no brainer for them.

This is not fact just my opinion that most Europeans & Southern Americans enjoy a glass of wine or alcohol with their meals. Perhaps this is also a reason for the change.

Just a thought I can not support any of my claims here as it is only my opinion.

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

Having a glass of wine with a table service dinner improves the dinner experience for many of us. The wine makes the food taste better, and the food makes the wine taster better. And, of course, it's good business for the restaurant.

I don't drink soda. Coca Cola and beverages like it are unhealthy sugar water. Actually, it's not even sugar water any more. It's now unhealthy high fructose corn sweetener water, and the servings are much bigger than they were in Walt's day. However, I wouldn't dream of telling people they have a "problem" if they drink large cups of soda.

Enjoy your soda all day. I'll enjoy my wine at dinner (and water during the day).

I do think it's funny that one of the four WDW parks has been dry, while the other three parks bombard guests with opportunities to buy all kinds of alcoholic beverages.

 

[justgeorgi]

No they don't but some do take it too far. Up til now, that wasn't even an option at MK. As this one restaurant becomes every restaurant and so on, that reality could change. It's unfortunate. And I was never implying that anyone who drinks at an amusement park has a drinking problem - it's just I don't see why it's a big deal that a park remain dry. It's not "necessary" to have alcohol wherever there are adults, but our society seems to think it is necessary. I think that's flawed. And it sort of feels like a little piece of the innocence is gone from MK with this change.

As for drinking when it's hot ... Alcohol heats you up inside, makes you have to pee more, etc. In reality, alcohol is about the worst thing to drink in the heat. I know people think cold beer in the heat, but to me, that wouldn't be refreshing. Then again, I've never been a beer drinker. I'm more of a fruity or frozen drinker, but I even prefer those without alcohol really. Just not a fan, but that doesn't really have anything to do with my opinion on MK adding alcohol at BOG.

Of course some some take advantage of it but that shouldn't mean those that don't should not be allowed to have a drink with dinner

 

[fuzzlekins]

Me personally, I only drink water (both home and at parks - I swore off soda a long time ago). Although with the DP, I may have to do something different with meals b/c I don't drink the local water.

 

[PaulaSB12]

I enjoy the occasional drink (i have the fixings for a grey goose slushie in the fridge) I drink a bit more on holiday because I am not driving and not working. But if wanting to drink in magic kingdom is seen as having a problem I wonder what they feel about the rare occasion when I have a small glass of cider with my porridge after a night shift.

 

[dwaters]

But if wanting to drink in magic kingdom is seen as having a problem I wonder what they feel about the rare occasion when I have a small glass of cider with my porridge after a night shift.

I don't think it's wanting to drink in Magic Kingdom, but needing to drink that would make you have a problem.

a little off-topic, but...
The only place I have felt the need to drink, or at least tremendous pressure to is at NFL football games. If you're not holding a beer, at the tailgate or in the stadium, you feel out of place. If the stadiums went dry, I bet the NFL would fold within a year.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

a little off-topic, but...
The only place I have felt the need to drink, or at least tremendous pressure to is at NFL football games. If you're not holding a beer, at the tailgate or in the stadium, you feel out of place. If the stadiums went dry, I bet the NFL would fold within a year.

Exactly, it's the only way one can sit through a football game...with liberal amounts of beer.

 

[smidgy]

How so? I don't get why you're so against it?
There's a reason it's a popular phrase. It's true!

I think especially at MK or WDW- quite possibly the "funnest" place on earth, the idea of needing a beer to make things fun seems strange- like trying to liven up a party that doesn't need livening.

Now drinking to relax- I could see that somewhat after dodging strollers, heat and slow moving lines all day.

the part I bolded is why I dislike the phrase in a thread about alcohol at theme parks.

this is not a thread about alcoholics, or the symptoms of alcoholism. yes, not being able to have fun without alcohol, or NEEDING a drink to have fun would be a symptom of alcoholism.

THIS, however, is a thread about whether or not alcohol should be served at MK. most people who enjoy adult beverages are not alcoholics, can enjoy said beverages without "needing" them, and have plenty fun without them.

just because people state their opinon that they would enjoy a cocktail at MK does NOT mean they can't have fun without it, or that they "need" it.

I also think that those who can't have fun without alcohol have a drinking problem. but that's not the topic of this thread at all.

 

[Cobra B.]

I have one problem with this and it will seem a little strange at first. My problem is if you make this the only place to get a drink you force some to stay at their table far longer than they might normally. If they know this is the only place in the park to drink they will continue to order and stay at their table. Thus, everyone loses out because the tabletops will not turnover fast enough for the amount of guests wishing to sit for dinner. That will immediately cause management to add other libation locations. Just a matter of time!
Kungaloosh.

 

[smidgy]

good point. if other people with ADRS are waiting, I wonder at what oint they will say," you're done eating, time to leave."

maybe they'll have a 2 drink maximum (almost wrote minimum )

 

[Magic Fanatic]

I have one problem with this and it will seem a little strange at first. My problem is if you make this the only place to get a drink you force some to stay at their table far longer than they might normally. If they know this is the only place in the park to drink they will continue to order and stay at their table. Thus, everyone loses out because the tabletops will not turnover fast enough for the amount of guests wishing to sit for dinner. That will will immediately cause management to add other libation locations. Just a matter of time!
Kungaloosh.

I understand the point you are making and it is a good one. However, Disney has such a vast amount of analytical analysis around the dining habits of guests that I would be willing to bet that they can predict within 10 to 12 minutes how long each guest will be seated at each table and set the number of priority seating reservations accordingly. In the other alcohol friendly restaurants around Disney I have found that a beer or drink is priced just high enough to where you might opt for a drink during your dinner, but may not be so interested in having 4 or 5 drinks after dinner. To your point, Disney knows exactly how many times a table must be turned and they are not going to price point beer and wine to a level where guests will simply "camp out " and drink for several hours.

 

[Magic Fanatic]

the part I bolded is why I dislike the phrase in a thread about alcohol at theme parks.

this is not a thread about alcoholics, or the symptoms of alcoholism. yes, not being able to have fun without alcohol, or NEEDING a drink to have fun would be a symptom of alcoholism.

THIS, however, is a thread about whether or not alcohol should be served at MK. most people who enjoy adult beverages are not alcoholics, can enjoy said beverages without "needing" them, and have plenty fun without them.

just because people state their opinon that they would enjoy a cocktail at MK does NOT mean they can't have fun without it, or that they "need" it.

I also think that those who can't have fun without alcohol have a drinking problem. but that's not the topic of this thread at all.

You are 100% correct and it is the same point I was trying to make earlier in this thread. I just feel that several of the comments within this thread have been condescending and somehow attempt to insult people that happen to enjoy an occasional beer or glass of wine. The point is, I drink, plain and simple and during the 30 years I have been visiting the Magic Kingdom I never once felt like my enjoyment of the park was diminished because I could not buy a beer. Honestly I didn't care. Now, there is a new dining offering that will allow me to enjoy a French beer and wine. I hardly think this is going to lead to the end of the mouse as we know it.

 

[Bella the Ball 360]

It's not that big a deal I suppose, but it just seems like one more thing that will make the Magic Kingdom not like it used to be.

I always respected that, while you could drink at the other 3 parks, Magic Kingdom was kept dry and remained "sacred ground". It set it apart from any old Six Flags or places like that.

ITA while it is nice to update the Magic Kingdom is NOT like it used to be. It is too bad and while someone posted that it cost very little to get in years ago keep in mind people earned less so it is proportional. It was always comparatively expensive to get in and I have gone for the past 48 years to all the parks. While this might sound simplistic, I guess it represents the loss of "innocence" that has infiltrated the park via the shameless commercialization which has only gotten worse over the years.