"Bad Teacher" barks up the wrong tree!!!

[Sabeking]

Two just curious questions
Did you ask your son why he did so poorly on the assignment and what did he say?
If so many failed why do you think the teacher chose to put out that particular project?

 

[declansdad]

Why are you wasting your precious time on my thread if it disgusts you so much? I think you are enjoying this

I'm just amazed at all the things you come up with to justify what you call advocacy.

 

[lukenick1]

Two just curious questions
Did you ask your son why he did so poorly on the assignment and what did he say?
If so many failed why do you think the teacher chose to put out that particular project?

He did poorly because she never explained what she expected for the project. As a matter of fact according to past parents of students in her class she only gave the info on what was to be expected to "certain kids". Yup you read that right, but maybe those parents were all lying too? Also maybe the fact that his globe collapsed because she made the kids use a latex free glove as a base for the paper mache.

Why she chose to display a project that so many kids did so poorly on I will never know. Odd isn't it?

 

[lukenick1]

I'm just amazed at all the things you come up with to justify what you call advocacy.

I am glad you find me so amazing!

 

[declansdad]

He did poorly because she never explained what she expected for the project. As a matter of fact according to past parents of students in her class she only gave the info on what was to be expected to "certain kids". Yup you read that right, but maybe those parents were all lying too? Also maybe the fact that his globe collapsed because she made the kids use a latex free glove as a base for the paper mache.

Why she chose to display a project that so many kids did so poorly on I will never know. Odd isn't it?

If this teacher is as bad as you say, why is she still in the classroom?

 

[limabeanmom2003]

The only reason a teacher would put a project /test with a failing grade on a desk during open house is to demonstrate power over the student and embarrass him. She could have easily contacted the parents to discuss. Open houses that I have run or attended are about showcasing work. His desk should have been empty if he failed the project being displayed or he could have displayed something else.n

 

[lukenick1]

Fathoming that a teacher would put a kids project on his desk with a failing grade during an open house is hard to believe, I get it. Why are most of you defending this teacher instead of considering the possibility that maybe she is a bad egg? Why do so many of you think that every teacher has to be Suzie Sunshine and innocent? Just maybe this teacher takes a teaching job because she likes the hours and summers off but really doesn't like the kids or have their best interest at heart. It does happen, it's not completely unheard of. I still wonder why this woman still has her job after some of the things other parents have encountered with their kids in her class. I only found out this info after my son was placed in her class. They heard he had her and oh boy WARNING! I shrugged it off, keeping in filed in the back of my head and wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt. I don't want to get into more details because my words keep getting twisted, assumptions are being made, etc. It's not worth it from this point forward. The damage was done and I fixed it the best way I saw fit for my son to have an enjoyable rest of the year with a teacher who liked him and respected his feelings (my oldest DS had this new teacher and she likes our family). End of story.

 

[despina]

are adding your own facts to HER story, like someone wrote OP said he was shy.....no she didn't write that!!! We don't know the whole story here, teachers side or OP's side...so stop being so critical of the OP.. she is a mom who believes she did the right thing. I find displaying poor grades of so many students in her classroom during "Open House" strange. Isn't Open House suppose to be a pleasant experience for a child to show their parents around their classroom, and all that they are working on, Proudly?? Without embarrassment ???

Op, I hope that that your son is doing well in his new class and glad to know your a mom that cares enough to do what YOU believe it right for him !!!

 

[kellyg403]

Fathoming that a teacher would put a kids project on his desk with a failing grade during an open house is hard to believe, I get it. Why are most of you defending this teacher instead of considering the possibility that maybe she is a bad egg? Why do so many of you think that every teacher has to be Suzie Sunshine and innocent? Just maybe this teacher takes a teaching job because she likes the hours and summers off but really doesn't like the kids or have their best interest at heart. It does happen, it's not completely unheard of. I still wonder why this woman still has her job after some of the things other parents have encountered with their kids in her class. I only found out this info after my son was placed in her class. They heard he had her and oh boy WARNING! I shrugged it off, keeping in filed in the back of my head and wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt. I don't want to get into more details because my words keep getting twisted, assumptions are being made, etc. It's not worth it from this point forward. The damage was done and I fixed it the best way I saw fit for my son to have an enjoyable rest of the year with a teacher who liked him and respected his feelings (my oldest DS had this new teacher and she likes our family). End of story.

I don't think most here have said she was right, most definitely wrong in some instances.

Kelly

 

[despina]

The only reason a teacher would put a project /test with a failing grade on a desk during open house is to demonstrate power over the student and embarrass him. She could have easily contacted the parents to discuss. Open houses that I have run or attended are about showcasing work. His desk should have been empty if he failed the project being displayed or he could have displayed something else.n

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

So kid comes home crying the teacher is going to display his failing grade. whips up a sob story, and parent goes marching to the Principal. What should have happened is the kid should have been told if he doesn't want the embarrassment of having a failing grade show, he should try harder and not get a failing grade. The kid is 10. It's past time to start learning accountability. Instead he learned he can turn in shoddy work, cry and manipulate his parent, and get out of it.

Here's some more on the kid
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3116272

And here?
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2931782

Something tells me the teacher doesn't think she barked up the wrong tree. Something tells me she's wondering why she didn't do it sooner.

 

[Art 1]

So kid comes home crying the teacher is going to display his failing grade. whips up a sob story, and parent goes marching to the Principal. What should have happened is the kid should have been told if he doesn't want the embarrassment of having a failing grade show, he should try harder and not get a failing grade. The kid is 10. It's time to start learning how to put the big boy pants on and having accountability. Instead he learned he can do shoddy work, go cry to mommy and manipulate her into getting him out of it.

By the way is this the same little lovely snowflake described here?
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3116272

And here?
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2931782

Something tells me the teacher doesn't think she barked up the wrong tree. Something tells me she's wondering why she didn't do it sooner.

You are like Magnum PI.

 

[Sabeking]

You are like Magnum PI.

I loved Magnum
Sorry I know..

 

[luvsJack]

Possibilities...
1) The score was 44/50 (or 44/45) and I thought he would be proud.
2) I had told the students before they did the project it would be displayed along with the grades
3) I'm using this as a learning experience so the kids know to always do their best work
4) It wouldn't be fair to the other kids to show their grades and not your son's.

That's what just came off the top of my head. We'll never know the teachers' reason though.

Well let's see---

1) Unless there was another part to the project, that would be a very strange way to grade something and should have been written ON the paper with the grade or in some way explained to the parents without being asked.
2)She wasn't supposed to display the grades, so that would have been a dumb thing to say.
3)Humiliation is not a learning experience for kids you want to encourage to keep trying.
4)None of the grades should have been displayed.

The answers you just gave would show her to be a worse teacher than we started with.

Good teachers do not use shame to teach.

I never said he was "shy" I said he has no self confidence or self esteem. In other words, he thinks he stinks at school, sports, he's short, hates his hair cut etc. He doesn't have any problem sticking up for himself or making his feelings known, thankfully. He does have anxiety, irrational fears and fears of being a failure due to the lack of self confidence.

OP, I am going to give you some advise that has nothing to do with this thread.

Your son may be acting out because of all of the things you mention here. Self esteem or the lack thereof can cause a lot of problems for kids. He needs to find that one thing that he is good at, something he can excel at. Whether its a sport, playing an instrument, something academic or whatever.

If he is acting out in school, it can cause teachers and other adults to have a bad attitude toward him (not all teachers of course, but they are human and its hard to like and be always fair to a kid that gives you trouble all the time). Their attitude toward him makes him more resentful and he acts out more and it just goes around in circles.

You do have to be his advocate and be there for him when he is treated unfairly. You do have to step up for him, but while you are doing that, help him find what he needs to help the low self esteem you describe here.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

You are like Magnum PI.

HAHA. Higgins! Coffee please.

I only wish I could just work when I please and drive a Ferrari all over Oahu and live in a mansion.

 

[lukenick1]

So kid comes home crying the teacher is going to display his failing grade. whips up a sob story, and parent goes marching to the Principal. What should have happened is the kid should have been told if he doesn't want the embarrassment of having a failing grade show, he should try harder and not get a failing grade. The kid is 10. It's past time to start learning accountability. Instead he learned he can turn in shoddy work, cry and manipulate his parent, and get out of it.

Here's some more on the kid
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3116272

And here?
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2931782

Something tells me the teacher doesn't think she barked up the wrong tree. Something tells me she's wondering why she didn't do it sooner.

Wow! I find it very creepy and unnecessary that you felt the need to dig up old posts. For what? To prove you think my son deserved what he got? Those posts have nothing to do with this one but thanks for proving that I never labelled him as a snowflake on this topic.

 

[North of Mouse]

Wow, after reading the posts from the threads mentioned by the pp, you, OP, have more problems than with a teacher showing his failing grades.

These kind of behavior problems do not start overnight. Where were you, their parents, when these things first started happening? The thing to have done was to 'nip it in the bud' then.

Doesn't sound like a show of low self esteem going on here to me. It sound like two out of control boys that should have been shown some parent's backbone long before now -

 

[lukenick1]

Well let's see---

1) Unless there was another part to the project, that would be a very strange way to grade something and should have been written ON the paper with the grade or in some way explained to the parents without being asked.
2)She wasn't supposed to display the grades, so that would have been a dumb thing to say.
3)Humiliation is not a learning experience for kids you want to encourage to keep trying.
4)None of the grades should have been displayed.

The answers you just gave would show her to be a worse teacher than we started with.

Good teachers do not use shame to teach.




OP, I am going to give you some advise that has nothing to do with this thread.

Your son may be acting out because of all of the things you mention here. Self esteem or the lack thereof can cause a lot of problems for kids. He needs to find that one thing that he is good at, something he can excel at. Whether its a sport, playing an instrument, something academic or whatever.

If he is acting out in school, it can cause teachers and other adults to have a bad attitude toward him (not all teachers of course, but they are human and its hard to like and be always fair to a kid that gives you trouble all the time). Their attitude toward him makes him more resentful and he acts out more and it just goes around in circles.

You do have to be his advocate and be there for him when he is treated unfairly. You do have to step up for him, but while you are doing that, help him find what he needs to help the low self esteem you describe here.

Thank you for the advice. We do go to family counseling where everyone gets to speak whats bothering them, because I do care enough for my family to get some professional guidance. Being a parent doesn't come with a hand book and there are lots of challenges along the way. We do the best we can and hope that everything works out in the end. That is all we can do........

 

[luvsJack]

Wow, after reading the posts from the threads mentioned by the pp, you, OP, have more problems than with a teacher showing his failing grades.

These kind of behavior problems do not start overnight. Where were you, their parents, when these things first started happening? The thing to have done was to 'nip it in the bud' then.

Doesn't sound like a show of low self esteem going on here to me. It sound like two out of control boys that should have been shown some parent's backbone long before now -

That's not fair.

Low self esteem can and does cause kids to act out just like she describes. A child with low self esteem doesn't always just sit around meek and mild, sitting in a corner acting depressed and scared to do anything. Many times they seem to do exactly what they thing everyone expects of them--act out.

Tearing this kid apart isn't helping him or the OP. And tearing her apart isn't helping either. Does it make all of you feel somehow superior?

 

[phorsenuf]

So kid comes home crying the teacher is going to display his failing grade. whips up a sob story, and parent goes marching to the Principal. What should have happened is the kid should have been told if he doesn't want the embarrassment of having a failing grade show, he should try harder and not get a failing grade. The kid is 10. It's past time to start learning accountability. Instead he learned he can turn in shoddy work, cry and manipulate his parent, and get out of it.

Here's some more on the kid
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3116272

And here?
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2931782

Something tells me the teacher doesn't think she barked up the wrong tree. Something tells me she's wondering why she didn't do it sooner.

Wow. Those threads were very enlightening.