Award to Costa Concordia Crew!

[kcashner]

http://www.scotsman.com/news/international/costa-concordia-crew-win-award-1-2554080

Hope the link worked!

 

[bobbiwoz]

The link worked for me.

I hope we never see anything like that again.

Bobbi

 

[woody73]

Award to Costa Concordia Crew!

I applaud the crew despite the cowardice of the captain, who conveniently "tripped" into a lifeboat.

Woody

 

[ilovetexas]

I applaud the crew despite the cowardice of the captain, who conveniently "tripped" into a lifeboat.

Woody

Absolutely!! That crew was lied to by their captain which initially prevented them from doing what should have been done, getting everyone into the lifeboats. Once they figured out what was really going on, despite his lies, they managed to get over 4,000 people off that ship safely after that coward abandoned them.

He needs to conveniently trip into a noose. Better yet, they should make him walk the plank....in far deeper water than he sank his ship in.

 

[zacaronius]

I applaud the crew despite the cowardice of the captain, who conveniently "tripped" into a lifeboat.

Woody

Agreed! The crew did a great job once they understood the gravity of the situation! I hope there isnt anyone that actually believes the "tripped" into a lifeboat story!

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

Absolutely!! That crew was lied to by their captain which initially prevented them from doing what should have been done, getting everyone into the lifeboats. Once they figured out what was really going on, despite his lies, they managed to get over 4,000 people off that ship safely after that coward abandoned them.

He needs to conveniently trip into a noose. Better yet, they should make him walk the plank....in far deeper water than he sank his ship in.

I couldn't agree more!

 

[CanuckTraveller]

I couldn't agree more!

Me too. It's a small miracle that less than 40 people passed away in that event.
The only good thing that came of this is that al cruise lines are taking a hard look at their ability to get 4000 people off a ship.

 

[kcashner]

Me too. It's a small miracle that less than 40 people passed away in that event.
The only good thing that came of this is that al cruise lines are taking a hard look at their ability to get 4000 people off a ship.

Yes, but the big issue is that they waited hours before starting to offload passengers.

That's very unlike DCL where the captain ordered all guests to the lifeboat stations at 5 am for the "thermal anomaly." Better to have them lined up, attendance taken, and be ready to load if necessary and then to send them all back to bed than the alternative possibility.

 

[jdb in AZ]

Yes, but the big issue is that they waited hours before starting to offload passengers.

That's very unlike DCL where the captain ordered all guests to the lifeboat stations at 5 am for the "thermal anomaly." Better to have them lined up, attendance taken, and be ready to load if necessary and then to send them all back to bed than the alternative possibility.

Hadn't heard about a thermal anomaly. When was that?

 

[kcashner]

Hadn't heard about a thermal anomaly. When was that?

It was a long time ago. MJ, do you remember which cruise that was???? You do understand that there is "Disney Speak" for lots of situations. So, per Disney, there was never a fire in a smokestack on the Magic, there was a "thermal anomaly." And they will deny that there ever was a fire...but something blackened the smoke stack (thermal anomalies must do that).

 

[DCL Repeaters]

It was a long time ago. MJ, do you remember which cruise that was???? You do understand that there is "Disney Speak" for lots of situations. So, per Disney, there was never a fire in a smokestack on the Magic, there was a "thermal anomaly." And they will deny that there ever was a fire...but something blackened the smoke stack (thermal anomalies must do that).

I do remember this. It was 2002 or 2003? A dear friend who was a CM at the time said the captain was very close to evacuating the guests. There were a few other cruise ships in the area who came to the Magic's aid who would have taken the guests onboard. The captain (Hans) of the Magic during this event was eventually fired.

 

[kcashner]

I have some pictures, but I'm not totally sure how to post them here.....I might mess with it in a bit.

 

[CanuckTraveller]

Yes, but the big issue is that they waited hours before starting to offload passengers.

True, but I do recall reading something shortly after the Concordia incident that most of the current emergency evacuation procedures only apply to ships holding no more than 2000 passengers. Of course now it is common to have 4000+ on a ship, so thus the need for review.
For some unknown reason, my boys wanted to watch every documentary on this incident for months, and I learned way more than I ever wanted to know about safety at sea
As for the "thermal anomaly" *grin*, fires are the most dangerous emergency on a ship, so why not just admit there was a fire and move on?

 

[kcashner]

Photos from "thermal anomaly" on Disney Magic:

here's hoping it works......

http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/photologger23/101-0144_IMG_zps6eca009b.jpg
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/photologger23/101-0145_IMG_zps72ba0e09.jpg
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/photologger23/101-0146_IMG_zps4c368c7e.jpg
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/photologger23/101-0148_IMG_zpsf2d27366.jpg
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/photologger23/101-0149_IMG_zps166dd556.jpg
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/photologger23/101-0150_IMG_zpsa46fcf51.jpg
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/photologger23/101-0151_IMG_zps23d93de4.jpg
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/photologger23/101-0152_IMG_zpsef9910ee.jpg
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q668/photologger23/101-0153_IMG_zpsb581e2f6.jpg

 

[MaleficentRN]

I do remember this. It was 2002 or 2003? A dear friend who was a CM at the time said the captain was very close to evacuating the guests. There were a few other cruise ships in the area who came to the Magic's aid who would have taken the guests onboard. The captain (Hans) of the Magic during this event was eventually fired.

Fired for what? Was it related to the "thermal" incident?

 

[MaleficentRN]

Yes, but the big issue is that they waited hours before starting to offload passengers.

But was that becuase of the direction, or lack thereof, from the captain?

 

[justmestace]

Nm

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Hadn't heard about a thermal anomaly. When was that?

As the photos show , that is the top of the stack, the melted stuff you see is the insulation that was wrapped around the engine exshust pipes.

The report on the Magic incident, I read years ago was that the heat within the pipes was high and the insulation started to smoke and melt, that is why when this happens on any vessel, they call it a *thermol anomaly* Not a Disney term.

There was no real fire, just melting and smoke. They was never danger to the people onboard or the vessel. A very minor issue and it happens rarely.

I never did see the final report but the Master and crew acted properly and had everyone muster as a safety precaution.

I dont know why or if Captain Hans left DCL, but he was not relieved of his command at that time.

AKK

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

http://www.scotsman.com/news/international/costa-concordia-crew-win-award-1-2554080

Hope the link worked!

The Master of the Cornordia did just about everything wrong he could have that day/night. However he is not the only one involved in this. At this time the Master is the only one facing charges, but 3 senior Deck Officers , 3 Costa Office senoir excutives(not to mention a number of Costa office personal have been removed) and Carnival Inc. are all being investigated for thier actions and the policys, design and operational plans of the Concordia (and other carnival Inc. vessels).


It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the next 1 to 3 years or so.

The contract to raise and tow the wreck to a safe port/scrapyard is $249 mil. Hopefully it will work.


AKK

PS. There is a rumor that the Master also applied for this award..Only a rumor at this point.

 

[justmestace]

Still, calling what happened with Disney's stack a thermal anomaly IS kind of a "fairy tale" way of putting it, according to the true definition.