Avoiding Cheerleaders and "15s"

[nilla]

We were at CSR during the cheerleading competition two years ago, and I don't recall seeing any cheerleaders at the resort. There was a cheerleading coach convention at that same time at CSR, but that was all adults. The "Watch Your Ankles" people, to be specific

 

[nilla]

Instead of building a new resort to accommodate bad behavior, how about hiring more security and cm's, give them the training and ability to deal with this.

Of course, the obvious solution is for their chaperones to actually, you know, chaperone, but that's just wishful thinking on my part

We never had a problem with the cheerleaders. Some were chanting prior to Illuminations, but that didn't really bother me. Line jumping and pathway obstruction would, but I have no problem pushing through crowds, and didn't notice any of that with the cheerleaders.

 

[Jen414]

We are there April 23 -may 10, Staying at POP. Are we going to hit mass amounts these groups? And I agree 75% of the time its the moms not girls. Im a dance mom and I told my girls if I ever get like that smack me upside the head!

Not sure if someone has replied to this yet, but there are 2 GIANT all-star cheer comps going on during this time frame. People will begin arriving today, Wednesday April 22 and stay through next Tuesday, April 28th for "Worlds". Then the "Summit" people will start arriving on Wednesday, April 29th and depart on Monday, May 4. We are arriving at POP on Thursday, April 30. I would like to tell you it might not be that bad, but I would not count on it. Sorry.

 

[Jen414]

I am also curious about this too. Will be staying at POP April 30 - May 8. Don't want to be overrun by cheerleaders.

Yes, there will be a GIANT comp. that people will be begin arriving for on Thursday, April 30 and leaving Monday, May 4. I believe it is around 550 teams. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

 

[Lisann]

Money or not, I'm not sure why these groups can't be made to behave a little more? I don't want to hear the argument "Disney makes a lot of money from them"; they make a lot of money from me, too (and the rest of us). Serious question, really, why can't they be made to behave a little more civilized? I have to be civilized when I am out in public. Other guests have to accommodate them? Seems all twisted to me.

 

[WEDWDW]

Instead of building a new resort to accommodate bad behavior, how about hiring more security and cm's, give them the training and ability to deal with this.

They've definitely added more security-Disney security personnel are EVERYWHERE here at Sports tonight.

 

[LoveToTravel2001]

Money or not, I'm not sure why these groups can't be made to behave a little more? I don't want to hear the argument "Disney makes a lot of money from them"; they make a lot of money from me, too (and the rest of us). Serious question, really, why can't they be made to behave a little more civilized? I have to be civilized when I am out in public. Other guests have to accommodate them? Seems all twisted to me.

I understand the comment but people like to report on a few individuals they encounter and then all 15s, cheerleaders, wrestlers... are out of control. I run into my fair share of everyday vacationers that are rude, disgusting, unable to manage their kids. Do they annoy the h*** out of me, absolutely. I can remember being at dinner and the table behind me not controlling their child, while said child threw food, screamed, climbed under the table and my seat. Did I pay Disney prices for a meal to put up with that - no. But I did. (And no, it was not a special needs child having an issue. I've worked in special ed for 25 years and I can see the difference.). I've had regular vacationers knock over my then five year old with no concern. I don't then lump all middle aged parents of toddlers as ill behaved, unmannered people.
I've said it a number of times here on the boards and I will say it again, if you run into unruly cheerleaders, call them out on it. Often times they don't mean to be rude or obnoxious but are being typical teens and are just excited. If that's not your style, if they are wearing anything that identifies their gym (All Star cheerleaders), make note of the gym and email the gym or let CMs know what gym they are from. Honestly, most gym owners want to know if their athletes are behaving poorly. It not only reflects negatively on that athlete, and the sport but also their livelihood. I know that my daughter's gym - the owners would want to know. Even if a specific athlete can not be identified, the entire gym will be spoken to. It would probably mean stricter guidelines the next trip.

 

[somesong2sing]

All cheer mom's aren't wanna be cheerlearders or snobs. My daughter is on a competitive team and the coaches as well as parents require a high standard of manners, courteousness, sportsmanship, and strick rules on behavior from our teams. It is actually in our contract. It is just good character. We often get commended for how well behaved our girls are, and how the parents get along/act. I have never been a cheerleader and played other sports as a kid/teen/highschooler. I could never do a cartwheel-still can't. So, the notes about how "they" are "all", isn't true at all. It is tragic that some people do behave the way they do, but you get that with all types of people. It is what makes the world go round!

Hopefully if we ever take our teams there, others can see a difference.

 

[somesong2sing]

Can anyone confirm if there is a cheer competition starting May 1st?

usually if you google the dates and a bit of info about cheer competitions, you can find out when they are. Usually it is Jan/Feb and there will also be some cheer events in May this year. There is a HUGE difference in competitive All Star teams vs Pop Warner teams and competitions. The one coming up in May is more for All Star Competitive teams. The ones in December-February are usually Pop Warner. Totally different judging and skill levels. Also, a different group of people that are in one or the other.

 

[somesong2sing]

I understand the comment but and that people like to report on a few individuals and then all 15s, cheerleaders, wrestlers... are out of control. I run into my fair share of everyday vacationers that are rude, disgusting, unable to manage their kids. Do they annoy the h*** out of me, absolutely. I can remember being at dinner and the table behind me not controlling their child, while said child threw food, screamed, climbed under the table and my seat. Did I pay Disney prices for a meal to put up with that - no. But I did. (And no, it was not a special needs child having an issue. I've worked in special ed for 25 years and I can see the difference.). I've had regular vacationers not over my then five year old with no concern. I don't then lump all middle aged parents of toddlers as I'll behaved, unmannered people.
I've said it a number of times here on the boards and I will say it again, if you run into unruly cheerleaders, call them out on it. Often times they don't mean to be rude or obnoxious but are being typical teens and are just excited. If that's not your style, if they are wearing anything that identifies their gym (All Star cheerleaders), make note of the gym and email the gym or let CMs know what gym they are from. Honestly, most gym owners want to know if their athletes are behaving poorly. It not only reflects negatively on that athlete, the sport but also their livelihood. I know that my daughter's gym - the owners would want to know. Even if a specific athlete can not be identified, the entire gym will be spoken to. It would probably mean stricter guidelines the next trip.

Yes. This!

If you can get info, report it to the gym. Not the normal excitment stuff, but the RUDE behavior. Some times annoyance over large groups gets bundled in with Cheerleaders, etc. However, on the flip side, I suggest if you see a well behaved, good group, that you also call and report that to the gym. It goes a long way- both way.

 

[somesong2sing]

I understand the comment but and that people like to report on a few individuals and then all 15s, cheerleaders, wrestlers... are out of control. I run into my fair share of everyday vacationers that are rude, disgusting, unable to manage their kids. Do they annoy the h*** out of me, absolutely. I can remember being at dinner and the table behind me not controlling their child, while said child threw food, screamed, climbed under the table and my seat. Did I pay Disney prices for a meal to put up with that - no. But I did. (And no, it was not a special needs child having an issue. I've worked in special ed for 25 years and I can see the difference.). I've had regular vacationers not over my then five year old with no concern. I don't then lump all middle aged parents of toddlers as I'll behaved, unmannered people.
I've said it a number of times here on the boards and I will say it again, if you run into unruly cheerleaders, call them out on it. Often times they don't mean to be rude or obnoxious but are being typical teens and are just excited. If that's not your style, if they are wearing anything that identifies their gym (All Star cheerleaders), make note of the gym and email the gym or let CMs know what gym they are from. Honestly, most gym owners want to know if their athletes are behaving poorly. It not only reflects negatively on that athlete, the sport but also their livelihood. I know that my daughter's gym - the owners would want to know. Even if a specific athlete can not be identified, the entire gym will be spoken to. It would probably mean stricter guidelines the next trip.

Also- Congrats on going down to Summit/Worlds! That is huge! We just did American Nationals and US. Finals. 2 of our 3 team took home jackets! ;-)
ICE-Forecast (Y5) is heading down from Chicago!! Be on the lookout!! Good luck to your daughters team

 

[LoveToTravel2001]

Also- Congrats on going down to Summit/Worlds! That is huge! We just did American Nationals and US. Finals. 2 of our 3 team took home jackets! ;-)
ICE-Forecast (Y5) is heading down from Chicago!! Be on the lookout!! Good luck to your daughters team

Thank you! And congrats to you as well. Our gym has six teams going to Summit next week. My daughter is on two of the teams and very excited. Last year we had a one man fall and did not make it to day two. Hoping for a better showing this year.
Cheer Factor All Stars - Deception LS2 and X-ceptional LSC3.

 

[LoveToTravel2001]

All cheer mom's aren't wanna be cheerlearders or snobs. My daughter is on a competitive team and the coaches as well as parents require a high standard of manners, courteousness, sportsmanship, and strick rules on behavior from our teams. It is actually in our contract. It is just good character. We often get commended for how well behaved our girls are, and how the parents get along/act. I have never been a cheerleader and played other sports as a kid/teen/highschooler. I could never do a cartwheel-still can't. So, the notes about how "they" are "all", isn't true at all. It is tragic that some people do behave the way they do, but you get that with all types of people. It is what makes the world go round!

Hopefully if we ever take our teams there, others can see a difference.

Our gym is the same way. The expectations for our athletes is set very high - not to win (though nice) but to be an example of sportsmanship and politeness. We have often called out at competitions for having remarkably well mannered athletes and athletes that exude sportsmanship. Yes, when we lose, we stand and clap for the winning team and then sit and let them have their moment. Yes, we have given sneakers to athletes on other teams when they forget to bring theirs... Do our parents get along - surprisingly, YES. Even if someone doesn't get along, it's not drama central. In a gym of 400 athletes, not everyone is going to like each other but we are still expected to be polite to each other. It all goes back to what the owners and coaches expect of the kids. Our owners would be horrified to find out that any of our athletes, or parents for that matter, were being rude, disrespectful, or showing poor sportsmanship. They would want to know and the sooner the better.

 

[somesong2sing]

Our gym is the same way. The expectations for our athletes is set very high - not to win (though nice) but to be an example of sportsmanship and courteous. We have often called out at competitions for having remarkably well mannered athletes and athletes that exude sportsmanship. Yes, when we lose, we stand and clap for the winning team and then sit and let them have their moment. Yes, we have given sneakers to athletes on other teams when they forget to bring theirs... It all goes back to what the owners and coaches expect of the kids. Our owners would be horrified to find out that any of our athletes, or parents for that matter, were being rude, disrespectful, or showing poor sportsmanship. They would want to know and the sooner the better.

This is so good to hear!! Midwest Training and Ice

We set the bar high, both competitively and with character. Good to know your daughters gym is the same way!

 

[abk96]

I attended Nationals this past February for the first time and I have to admit that I wasn't looking forward to it because of the complaints I read here on the boards. That quickly changed. My girls were well chaperoned and received many compliments on their good manners and politeness.

I never encountered a problem in the parks, on a bus, at the resort, or at the event. I'm sure there are some groups who are not as well behaved but like others have said you can easily identify them and report as needed.

We even had a group of girls start a conversation with us on the MK bus one day. One of the girls commented on how she enjoys not only coming down to compete but having the opportunity to meet so many people from around the country and some from around the world.

Congrats to those who are going to Worlds and Summit. I can't wait to go again next year and do it all over again.

 

[ArmyVet80]

I have seen a small group of "15's" at POFQ in June and at ASMu on our Christmas trip. Maybe 20 girls at POFQ. They were very polite and didn't do any chanting that we could hear. We actually gave them some advice on what to do and they thanked us when we saw them leaving 2 days into our trip. I would say that POFQ is a less than likely destination for them though.

 

[Pooh2]

There was a large group of South American teens staying at Port Orleans Riverside when we were there late Jan. They were banging on our door and running up and down the sidewalk late at night and singing on the lawn at midnight. They left about half way through our week as we were ready to go request a different room location.
In the parks, we went the other way when we saw the tour flags.

 

[Coconut8473]

I think the issue with all of these is simply large groups of teenagers being granted a little bit of "freedom" (with little supervision) in a super fun place. Even a normally well-behaved, well-raised kid can succumb to the excitement and peer pressure in those circumstances (I know I totally would have, and I was a "good" kid!) What Disney should try to reinforce with these groups is that, when they're not rehearsing or performing, they be required to break up into smaller groups of 5-10 (with at least one chaperon for each small group).

 

[Kevin355]

I think the issue with all of these is simply large groups of teenagers being granted a little bit of "freedom" (with little supervision) in a super fun place. Even a normally well-behaved, well-raised kid can succumb to the excitement and peer pressure in those circumstances (I know I totally would have, and I was a "good" kid!) What Disney should try to reinforce with these groups is that, when they're not rehearsing or performing, they be required to break up into smaller groups of 5-10 (with at least one chaperon for each small group).

This. You get groups of 45-50 15's running around, blocking paths, holding places in line, chanting, rushing the buses, and generally being rude and obnoxious. Most of the cheerleaders were OK, but like I quoted the previous poster, sometimes they succumb to the excitement and peer pressure, and mom/dad/chaperone are not around, they act differently. Rather have cheer/sports groups than the 15's.

 

[Jadyreen1282]

Money or not, I'm not sure why these groups can't be made to behave a little more? I don't want to hear the argument "Disney makes a lot of money from them"; they make a lot of money from me, too (and the rest of us). Serious question, really, why can't they be made to behave a little more civilized? I have to be civilized when I am out in public. Other guests have to accommodate them? Seems all twisted to me.

Oh come on...let the girls live a little.