Autism meltdowns

I, too, feel your pain. There have been times when my son has had a nuclear meltdown (and I reserve that classification of meltdown for very special meltdowns) and I have felt like sobbing myself. What an awful feeling it is when your child is enraged, out of control and freaking out.
Meltdowns are a hard one because it is hard to know what will trigger something. Every child is different and so you never know what a new day will bring.
Sensory kids are always close to a threshold because they are dealing with so many stimuli just trying to sort it all out and process it. Then when something pushes them over that threshold (and it could be something very random seeming to us) they meltdown because they just can't deal any more.

Try to offer some things to calm prior to the melting point - depending on the sensory needs of your specific child. Weighted blankets or vests do work great if that meets your kid's sensory needs. Earplugs, or headphones or just some time to chill is good. Social stories are a teaching tool, unfortunately they don't help during a meltdown! They can be useful for certain situations to help teach what to expect but don't help calm a child on overload.

We have had great times during our Disney trips - minimal meltdowns.

It will get better - there is hope - hang in there!!!
:)
 
Hugs to you and everyone here. I wish I had the answers. If maybe this hopefully makes you feel any better most of our relatives avoid us like the plague too. I try to tell them all the nice things about DS, but they don't want to hear it. You're not alone.
 
Last night at the county fair (our 3rd night there) ds 8 with asppergars had a melt down when I told hom no more carnival games (we had agreed on 2). He had a meltdown and attacked me. I tried to hold him but suffered bloody legs and scratches/bruises. Older dd (25) went to get some help. No one offered to help or ask if I needed help. I had tears streaming down my face from the pain. I wanted to take him out of the fair, but it was physically impossible. My dd came back with a police officer (20 min later) who got ds away from me and calmed him down quickly. DS just needed someone to break the "trance" he seem to be fixated on which was me. We walked to the car and he was fine. He asked if I still loved him and could he hold me. I told him I loved him, but I hurt to much for him to hold me. If this is how he is at 8 what do i do at 12? I know there are other families out there, but last night I was very much alone.
 
My DD6, autistic (among other things) also has meltdowns, but much less now than before. It used to be that even taking a different road home from school would cause her to scream and cry. A different bus driver, something out of place at the hairdresser, too many choices, changes in schedule...all of these cause meltdowns. It is difficult to reason with her when she is falling apart (obviously), so we do our best to prepare her for changes and try to encourage her to "be flexible." Life is so unpredictable, there is no way to know what will happen. There was a broken vending machine at a rest stop on one of our road trips and she freaked out for 30 minutes.

We finally decided that something else was going on besides autism, sensory integration dysfunction, low muscle tone, verbal apraxia, gross motor delays, and seasonal affect disorder. DD6 also has anxiety disorder, so she sees a psychologist once a week to talk about what makes her panic and anxious about many things. This has helped some, but there is still a long way to go. At least she can verbalize now and once she is calm, she can explain to us why she was upset.

On a positive note, we took our first trip to WDW with her and my DS4, also autistic. I was thinking it would be awful, and in fact, they had a good time. Okay, so DD7 would only go on ONE ride during the whole week, and mom (me) had to stay with her while dad and DD4 rode a lot of rides, but she had fun, and asked to go back! I was amazed! She loved the parades and tolerated the crowds and loved the buses. So we are going back in November. It's a lot of money to spend on tickets to not ride any rides, but I am focusing on the positive! I only have to figure out how to get around with her...she's 75 lbs and 4 feet, 4 inches. Last year, I pushed her around in stroller and she was 65 lbs. I doubt if the wheels will move this year...

Anyhow, you are not alone and we are all going through similar things. There are a lot of typical kids at WDW having meltdowns all day long...ours don't look so different in comparison.

Social stories have worked well for us. Careful planning, visual schedules, keeping the routine close to what happens at home, packing favorite and special toys. Bribery when desperate (I bought a few large Disney toys to keep her in the parks when we were there, waiting for DH and DS4) works too, although I do less of that when we are home.
 

I really appreciate all of you for all your advice. We are going through a very difficult time with our dd right now. I think dh is not taking it very well at all. He's having a hard time dealing with it and won't even speak to me about it. He just becomes angry. He told me he was done dealing with her behavior and doesn't want to go on the trip. I have given him a couple days to calm down but did have to remind him that I need to pay off the trip in a couple of days and asked if it was okay to pay for it and he said he wanted to talk about things first. I'm so afraid he's going to refuse to go on this trip. I really don't want to cancel and I know my dd is looking forward to it, regardless of the difficulties she has.

Cass said:
What happens after a meltdown? Like, after the unsuccessful ice cream trip, does DD say she is sorry or feels bad about crying? or is it like she doesn't even realize what happened.

I honestly don't think she feels sorry or bad about crying. When I try and talk to her about things she really doesn't seem to understand or get what I mean.

disneydenisel said:
My DD6, autistic (among other things) also has meltdowns, but much less now than before. It used to be that even taking a different road home from school would cause her to scream and cry. A different bus driver, something out of place at the hairdresser, too many choices, changes in schedule...all of these cause meltdowns. It is difficult to reason with her when she is falling apart (obviously), so we do our best to prepare her for changes and try to encourage her to "be flexible." Life is so unpredictable, there is no way to know what will happen. There was a broken vending machine at a rest stop on one of our road trips and she freaked out for 30 minutes.

We finally decided that something else was going on besides autism, sensory integration dysfunction, low muscle tone, verbal apraxia, gross motor delays, and seasonal affect disorder. DD6 also has anxiety disorder, so she sees a psychologist once a week to talk about what makes her panic and anxious about many things. This has helped some, but there is still a long way to go. At least she can verbalize now and once she is calm, she can explain to us why she was upset.

This sounds exactly like my dd and I do believe she has some anxiety issues also. I feel so bad for her because it's hard for me to understand why a 4 year old would feel this much anxiety. It makes me sad.

MidgeD79 said:
Last night at the county fair (our 3rd night there) ds 8 with asppergars had a melt down when I told hom no more carnival games (we had agreed on 2). He had a meltdown and attacked me. I tried to hold him but suffered bloody legs and scratches/bruises. Older dd (25) went to get some help. No one offered to help or ask if I needed help. I had tears streaming down my face from the pain. I wanted to take him out of the fair, but it was physically impossible. My dd came back with a police officer (20 min later) who got ds away from me and calmed him down quickly. DS just needed someone to break the "trance" he seem to be fixated on which was me. We walked to the car and he was fine. He asked if I still loved him and could he hold me. I told him I loved him, but I hurt to much for him to hold me. If this is how he is at 8 what do i do at 12? I know there are other families out there, but last night I was very much alone.

My heart breaks for you. I started tearing up reading this. My dd4 also does these things to me or if not me she trys to hurt herself and I really do worry about how I will control her when she's older and bigger.

Again I appreciate all your replies. I feel better knowing I'm not alone but then of course I wish none of us had to go through this.
 
This is long but... THIS HAS BEEN A GODSEND FOR OUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS- TO HELP GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON WITH MY SON. SO I THOUGHT I WOULD PASS IT ALONG AND MAYBE IT COULD HELP YOU BETTER EXPLAIN SOME OF THE "MELTDOWNS". (I am sure that some of you might have seen this before)

TEN THINGS EVERY CHILD WITH AUTISM WISHES YOU KNEW:
1. I am first and foremost a child -- a child with autism. I am not primarily "autistic." My autism is only one aspect of my total character. It does not define me as a person. Are you a person with thoughts, feelings and many talents, or are you just fat (overweight), myopic (wear glasses) or klutzy (uncoordinated, not good at sports)?
As an adult, you have some control over how you define yourself. If you want to single out a single characteristic, you can make that known. As a child, I am still unfolding. Neither you nor I yet know what I may be capable of. Defining me by one characteristic runs the danger of setting up an expectation that may be too low. And if I get a sense that you don't think I "can do it," my natural response will be: Why try?
Sensory integration may be the most difficult aspect of autism to understand, but it is arguably the most critical.


2. My sensory perceptions are disordered. This means that the ordinary sights, sounds, smells, tastes and touches of everyday that you may not even notice can be downright painful for me. The very environment in which I have to live often seems hostile. I may appear withdrawn or belligerent to you but I am really just trying to defend myself. Here is why a "simple" trip to the grocery store may be hell for me:
My hearing may be hyper-acute. Dozens of people are talking at once. The loud speaker booms: today's special. Cash registers beep and cough, a coffee grinder is chugging. The meat cutter screeches, babies wail, carts creak, the fluorescent lighting hums. My brain can't filter all the input and I'm in overload!
My sense of smell may be highly sensitive. The fish at the meat counter isn't quite fresh, the guy standing next to us hasn't showered today, the deli is handing out sausage samples, the baby in line ahead of us has a poopy diaper, they're mopping up pickles on aisle 3 with ammonia.I can't sort it all out; I'm too nauseous.
Because I am visually oriented (see more on this below), this may be my first sense to become overstimulated. The fluorescent light is too bright; it makes the room pulsate and hurts my eyes. Sometimes the pulsating light bounces off everything and distorts what I am seeing -- the space seems to be constantly changing. There's glare from windows, too many items for me to be able to focus (I may compensate with "tunnel vision"), moving fans on the ceiling, so many bodies in constant motion. All this affects my vestibular sense, and now I can't even tell where my body is in space.
Receptive and expressive language and vocabulary can be major challenges:


3. Please remember to distinguish between won't (I choose not to) and can't (I am not able to).
It isn't that I don't listen to instructions. It's that I can't understand you. When you call to me from across the room, this is what I hear: "*&^C@, Billy. #$uSPAN>*&^Famp;*" Instead, come speak directly to me in plain words: "Please put your book in your desk, Billy. It's time to go to lunch." This tells me what you want me to do and what is going to happen next. Now it is much easier for me to comply.


4. I am a concrete thinker. This means I interpret language very literally. It's very confusing for me when you say, "Hold your horses, cowboy!" when what you really mean is "Please stop running." Don't tell me something is a "piece of cake" when there is no dessert in sight and what you really mean is "this will be easy for you to do." When you say "It's pouring cats and dogs," I see pets coming out of a pitcher. Please just tell me "It's raining very hard."
Idioms, puns, nuances, double entendres and sarcasm are lost on me.


5. Please be patient with my limited vocabulary. It's hard for me to tell you what I need when I don't know the words to describe my feelings. I may be hungry, frustrated, frightened or confused but right now those words are beyond my ability to express. Be alert for body language, withdrawal, agitation or other signs that something is wrong.
Or, there's a flip side to this: I may sound like a "little professor" or movie star, rattling off words or whole scripts well beyond my developmental age. These are messages I have memorized from the world around me to compensate for my language deficits because I know I am expected to respond when spoken to. They may come from books, TV, the speech of other people. It is called "echolalia." I don't necessarily understand the context or the terminology I'm using. I just know that it gets me off the hook for coming up with a reply.


6. Because language is so difficult for me, I am very visually oriented. Please show me how to do something rather than just telling me. And please be prepared to show me many times. Lots of consistent repetition helps me learn.
A visual schedule is extremely helpful as I move through my day. Like your day-timer, it relieves me of the stress of having to remember what comes next, makes for smooth transition between activities, helps me manage my time and meet your expectations. Here's a great website for learning more about visual schedules: www.cesa7.k12.wi.us/sped/autism/structure/str11.htm.
Don't let autism cause you to lose sight of the whole child. Self-esteem is crucial.


7. Please focus and build on what I can do rather than what I can't do. Like any other human, I can't learn in an environment where I'm constantly made to feel that I'm not good enough and that I need "fixing." Trying anything new when I am almost sure to be met with criticism, however "constructive," becomes something to be avoided. Look for my strengths and you will find them. There is more than one "right" way to do most things.


8. Please help me with social interactions. It may look like I don't want to play with the other kids on the playground, but sometimes it's just that I simply do not know how to start a conversation or enter a play situation. If you can encourage other children to invite me to join them at kickball or shooting baskets, it may be that I'm delighted to be included.


9. Try to identify what triggers my meltdowns. Meltdowns, blow-ups, tantrums or whatever you want to call them are even more horrid for me than they are for you. They occur because one or more of my senses has gone into overload. If you can figure out why my meltdowns occur, they can be prevented. Keep a log noting times, settings, people, activities. A pattern may emerge.


10. If you are a family member, please love me unconditionally. Banish thoughts like, "If he would just" and "Why can't she.." You did not fulfill every last expectation your parents had for you and you wouldn't like being constantly reminded of it. I did not choose to have autism. But remember that it is happening to me, not you. Without your support, my chances of successful, self-reliant adulthood are slim. With your support and guidance, the possibilities are broader than you might think. I promise you I am worth it.
And finally, three words: Patience. Patience. Patience. Work to view my autism as a different ability rather than a disability. Look past what you may see as limitations and see the gifts autism has given me. It may be true that I'm not good at eye contact or conversation, but have you noticed that I don't lie, cheat at games, tattle on my classmates or pass judgment on other people? Also true that I probably won't be the next Michael Jordan. But with my attention to fine detail and capacity for extraordinary focus, I might be the next Einstein. Or Mozart. Or Van Gogh
 
Thanks lovemickeya for sharing.

Just an update on my post from last night...We ARE going to go on the trip. I really don't think my dh is excited but he left the decision to me and I felt I had already promised my dd the trip...so we are going! I honestly think I have to worry about my dh more than my dd on this trip because he stresses out so easily over her meltdowns. Are any of your spouses like this? I honestly want to just tell him to leave at times and let me deal with it. If any of you have a spouse like this, how do you handle things? Telling my dh to calm down just makes him worse. Thanks
 
lovemickeya: Thanks so much for this! It will be great to give my DD9's teacher at school this year (wish I'd had it last year!). She is actually ADHD with anxiety issues, sensory integration issues, fine motor delay, "borderline" learning disabilities in math and reading comprehension, autistic tendencies, and now I'm wondering if she has Asperger's--she has some characteristics that are classic, but is missing others. Maybe it's just everything else--who knows?

sleepingbeautymama: I don't think anyone understands meltdowns better than Moms (no offense dads, most of you are at work when a lot of this happens and just don't experience it as much). I know my husband really stresses out and gets angry when my DD9 melts down. He can't understand that that doesn't help, it often just makes it worse. Maybe let your DH read some of the stuff on here, if he will. Maybe you can go to work for him for a week or so and let him take full resposibility for your DD and your other responsibilities :). I know, I know, it wouldn't really work, but sometimes it seems like a good idea! Good luck! Have a great trip and lots of fun planning it! :cool1:
 
sleepingbeautymama said:
Thanks lovemickeya for sharing.

Just an update on my post from last night...We ARE going to go on the trip. I really don't think my dh is excited but he left the decision to me and I felt I had already promised my dd the trip...so we are going! I honestly think I have to worry about my dh more than my dd on this trip because he stresses out so easily over her meltdowns. Are any of your spouses like this? I honestly want to just tell him to leave at times and let me deal with it. If any of you have a spouse like this, how do you handle things? Telling my dh to calm down just makes him worse. Thanks
My husband sounds so similar to yours. My DS12 had a doozy meltdown in AK last summer. I honestly don't think he'll be back at WDW for some time which is sad. The topper was when he ran through security at MCO. I totally know where you're coming from. My DH is great when my son is "on" and well behaved. As soon as the slightest thing goes wrong, he freaks out and just makes thing so much worse.
 
sleepingbeautymama said:
Thanks lovemickeya for sharing.

Just an update on my post from last night...We ARE going to go on the trip. I really don't think my dh is excited but he left the decision to me and I felt I had already promised my dd the trip...so we are going! I honestly think I have to worry about my dh more than my dd on this trip because he stresses out so easily over her meltdowns. Are any of your spouses like this? I honestly want to just tell him to leave at times and let me deal with it. If any of you have a spouse like this, how do you handle things? Telling my dh to calm down just makes him worse. Thanks


My DH is getting much better, but he isn't always the most patient guy. He gets really flustered & embarassed when DD has a tantrum in public. Sometimes I feel like I have 2 kids to deal with! It used to be much worse, but he has read the "10 Things..." book & it has helped (the list above only scratched the surface...the book dedicates a chapter to each of the 10 things). I have really tried to get him to put himself in DD's shoes...the truth is that I have had to deal with it more (I stay at home) & she is around me more & responds better to me. I do feel for him when he gets home from work & all DD says is "Say bye to daddy!"...I know that I see more of the bad but I also get more of the good, too. We all have to rememember that it's up to us to be strong for our special kids...make them feel safe & loved & find a neutral party to vent on...don't take it out on your spouse...come to the DIS and talk to us. Once I started posting here on the DIS, I found it easier to deal with things & I wasn't venting on DH as much when I had a bad day.

Hang in there...it does get easier.
 
Hello, I Just wanted to send support and a big hug your way!
I am the mom of an amazing high functioning child with AS (asperger's syndrome), diagnosed at 7 and is about to be a teenager (oh MY, how time flies). I want to strongly suggest reaching out to all available services as they were very instrumental in providing the basis for overcoming obstacles like meltdowns, stress (ie associated tic disorder), social skill techniques, etc. I found that the Occupational Therapy with an emphasis on sensory integration issues truly worked wonders. Kids with AS thrive on those bear hugs (usually love the swings and trampolines too). I also strongly believe in social skills classes to teach the child HOW to deal with the daily social situations that don't come easily to them. We were fortunate to be invloved in a program that invloved parents and child in the social skills classes so were all on the same page. Interestingly enough, our child wasn't actually diagnosed until after a visit to Disney when the overstimulation actually caused him to have some motor tics (arm flapping, eye blinking). Before that I was constantly told that I was looking too carefully at each little thing he did and over-reacting to it (I kept hearing that since he was an only child and it took 9 years to have him I was WAY toO focused on these little things. LITTLE?! It wasn't until the Disney episode that I refused to believe that something wasn't up, and went to different doctors/specialists. At the time of diagnosis we thought it was the end of the world and had never even heard of AS. Then all the other issues/things that we had seen with my child (very literal, poor facial expressions/eye contact, rigidity in behavior, perseveration to objects, high sensitivity to smells/sounds etc) came into focus! Well, I can proudly say that my child is doing wonderful, is fully integrated in middle school classes, has FRIENDS :) and is HAPPY. That doesn't mean it's an easy ride all the time, BUT we have all learned how to adjust what/how we do things. We still visit Disney, but at a much more leisurely pace. Yes, we stay at the SAME resort whenever we go and usually stay in the room for a little bit upon arrival to get acclimated to the new environment. Then off we go and the magic begins! We're actually returning this year and we can't wait! Wishing you the best of luck on your Magical Disney Vacation!
 
Just know that you are not alone. Also know that it is so hard for anyone to understand you and yours. People who do not experence a meltdown have no clue. My sons therapist showed me pressure things to do, exp have him hug himself tight. pushing hands against each other. Lots of small things to do when you see him starting the meltdown. This has worked for us. the story idea is great as well. Just know that I still question myself and get frustrated about what I am doing wrong. Sometimes I have to set back and realize I am not doing anything wrong. The best place to get support is from people who have some of the same issues. You can not always control a meltdown or stop it. It is just not that easy. I hope all these post help you. Good luck with your daughter.

great advise. If your child has meltdowns (I know that feeling) it can happen and WILL happen at WDW. Too much stimuli. (spelled?)
My son has rage and anger issues. he once kicked my wife in the shins during one of those meltdowns in the bathroom at WDW till her leg was bleeding. Not good. I once saw another child there who was worse off than my own. He was laying (I can see it in my mind clear as a bell) on the black pavement beside Splash Mountain across from pecos Bills, face down, kicking and hitting the concrete. Screaming to the top of his lungs. He did this for about 20 minutes straight. His father (I assume) just sat there patiently till he was finished. I understood the situation.
heres the "mean" part. There was a high class lady at the next table over. She very loudly (and rudely) said (to her husband) "If that were MY child I'd fix him real good!" :furious: I turned to her and said (couldnt stop myself) "Until you have lived a day in HIS shoes you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what you would do! My son has this same problem, and it pisses me off to hear people who have no idea judge others about what THEY would do. Id suggest you shut your mouth. Her husband looked at me, I looked back at him, and he sat back down. I spend my life trying to explain my sons condition to many who dont care to hear a logical explanation.
 
Kudos to you for your response to that woman. Many times I've heard the comments about my autistic DS12 son. Once in a Waffle House in PA my son kicked my husband. It wasn't a terrible tantrum or anything (we've had plenty of those!), but some jerk saw it and had a really nasty comment similar to the woman's that you heard. My husband went off on him and followed him out to the parking lot. It was great! The guy was mortified! :thumbsup2 You'd think in this day and age of being "politically correct" people would be more familiar with autism and not immediately think that a tantruming child was just being a brat.
 
Having an autistic DS, now 18 - I've heard it all from strangers. However it doesn't bother me as much now if my son "behaves differently" in public. It was much harder when he was little.
But situations still arise.... he and I are leaving for WDW at the end of the month. He now has become VERY anxious about staying at CBR. Doesn't like the beach or lake so close....alligators and sharks... and what ever else he thinks is in there. Poor guy. I hope I don't have to change resorts after our first night! That could be a challenge and quite expensive!
As a parent of an autistic child, you have to keep your sense of humor.
 











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