Arrrggg I Am So Mad

[MiakodaWDW]

I was just in my beach club and a girl came in. No "dis" on her sig, so I asked if she was Dis. Since it is a Dis only club. I asked her Dis title. She said her title on dis was Cute Agent. i came here to check and she was not found. So I go back to VMK and guess what?

TWO HOUR BAN FOR ASKING FOR "PERSONAL INFO!"

for asking her Dis title? What next? At least it's 20 mins to close anyway.

Does this mean I can't get CL now? GRRRRRRR

Mia

 

[charliez]

Oh bummer! You might try sending VMK a note explaining what happened, but they may take a hard line - if it's info outside VMK, they pretty much consider it off limits. Still, it was a minor and innocent incident.

I'm really sorry that happened to you, since I know from personal experience how helpful & friendly you are. You would make a good CL -- keep hoping!

 

[MiakodaWDW]

thanks for the kind words, charliez. I thought about emailing VMK but
a. they never write back or give inane responses like the one I'll post below
b. I can see how they would consider asking someone's Dis name "personal info" (even though it is stupid)
c. it's pointless, since it was a 2 hour ban 20 mins to close. If it was day or longer, I would email them for sure.

I'm only mad on principle, not that I lost my last 20 minutes hanging out in my Dis club with non-Dis ppl that lied to me.

So speaking of the black hole, here is the absolutely ridiculous response I got from them after...I dunno....weeks. First, my letter:

I still have not received my prize for the difficult and medium
event mazes. I sent a message stating that I made it to the end of both
before crashing, and spent half a day trying to get through without a
crash. I was unable to talk to a Staff member or CL b/c I crashed right
when I entered the last rooms. Can I please get the prizes I feel I
earned? I have heard from other VMK members that they were awarded the
prizes despite making it to the point of a CL taking their names. I
would love to have these items before Halloween if possible.
Thanks so much,
Miakoda


Their response:

Hi there,

Keep your eyes on the home page and the newsletter for details - we'll
always announce up coming events there.

Thanks,

--
VMK_april


I wrote back with "what kind of ridiculous response to my problem is that? blah blah" and I get the "we feel we solved your problem" email.

I love vmk so much but I sure do hate so much about it too! ARG!

~Mia~ = still angry at VMK

 

[piratesmate]

First, I'm sorry about the ban. Sometimes it seems as though they have a computer "reviewing" conversations & it just flags certain words or phrases. Other times I've had people pesting me with questions & statements that I know aren't allowed and nother happens to them - other than me putting them on "Ignore". LOL

When you get those "we feel we've resolved" responses, they're hoping you'll give up & go away. (I know - cynical!) Sometimes I do just give up & "let them win" - I know I shouldn't. I gave up after 3 attempts to get them to give back either my HKDL pins or my 2000 credits used to buy them. (That was when they were out for an hour "by mistake".) Other times I will persist & occasionally I've gotten what was lost.

What I don't get, though, is the inequality of the banning process. Last week I was visiting the Virtual Pirates of the VMK ride (awesome BTW!) and chatting with the owner. He had at least 3 sets of pirate quest stuff & I asked him if he lived close enough to do it often. I thought afterwards that I probably shouldn't have asked that. He made a comment about using the winnings of everyone in the family to fill the rooms (never answered the question about being close) and followed up with "Where are you located?" In the time it took me to type out "We probably shouldn't be talking about this" he'd already received a warning for asking for personal info.

Here's the inequality: I initiated the exchange & asked basically the same question, but was not warned. He got a warning for asking where I was & you got a 2 hour ban for asking a question that the thought may have given the ability to begin finding a location! And they wonder why we get irritated with the way it's handled?

 

[Maleficent2]

to answer your question about ever being able to become a CL. That answer in no, not with that character anyway. I am not sure if anyone who has been banned with one character has gone on to become a CL with another.

Mal

 

[Azure]

I've been banned and I explained to them what happened and then "POOF" with that I became a community leader. VMK_Babs said that you can try again with in a month of the ban.


Happy DAYS,

Melanie

 

[GBShorts]

Actually asking for information about any forum boards that pertain to VMK is considered personal information.

When a friend was speaing with one of the VMK staff (Mocha, I think) he mentioned something about another VMK forum site and she told him not to. She said it was not safe for kids and she was out to make that stuff go away.

So, you can bet that's possibly who banned you... or that THAT is now the rule. no discussing forum sites.

She was saying that you can get too much personal information (yeah here at Dis you can, we have photos up and everything!)...and that's why it's against VMK policy to discuss names on this site.

As for being a CL...you can still help people even if you aren't a CL.
And if you aren't then you can get away with having a little fun once in awhile instead of incessantly asking questions. You aren't expected to be "on duty" all the time.

 

[Tinkerbelle739]

to answer your question about ever being able to become a CL. That answer in no, not with that character anyway. I am not sure if anyone who has been banned with one character has gone on to become a CL with another.

Mal

yes I know of at least one person who went from banned to CL

edited to add, I still dont get that

 

[Azure]

I don't think i'm sure about this but asking for a dis name isn't giving out personal information... maybe they could have gotten mixed up!

 

[mtlhddoc2]

this is why I never do ANYTHING but credit hunt and trade with my mules when logged into my main charachter

 

[bopper]

thanks for the kind words, charliez. I thought about emailing VMK but
a. they never write back or give inane responses like the one I'll post below
b. I can see how they would consider asking someone's Dis name "personal info" (even though it is stupid)
c. it's pointless, since it was a 2 hour ban 20 mins to close. If it was day or longer, I would email them for sure.

It is personal info, because I see a thread here on Dis VMK section that has pictures of people from the Dis. So you can know exactly what that person looks like and about how old they are. They may also have what state they are from listed.

 

[MiakodaWDW]

I think if they do use a computer to hunt and pick out certain "bad" words, maybe the word "title" did it. I had said it several times that day. Earlier in the Tiki Bar, I was with (I think MissElfie and ilikebenandjen) and got a warning about personal info for NO reason. Those people backed me up that we were not discussing anything personal. I think MissElfie said she got one too. Maybe after enough warnings, they just put a 2hour ban on you for saying the catch phrase or word (i.e, "title") Now what if you are talking about an album title? I was asking on of the "I heart Green Day" kids if they knew the title of the band's first album the other day, and got a warning. That is why I'm assuming it is "vmk no-no" to say "title". So why is it in the dictionary then?

Does anyone know how the bans and length of bans work? Is it based on what you do (like 2 hours for "asking for personal info" and a week for talking about alchoholic beverages...ahem...), or do you start off with 2 hours for first offense, and move up, with no regard to what you say/do?

~Mia

 

[Captain Brain]

I HAVE HAD IT!I may justn march right into vmk's offices and demand that MiaKoda become a CL!

 

[DarkSideMoon]

another virtual injustice, people can have virtual sex and not get in trouble but she asks disboards name and she gets banned... ive given up on vmk justice, i think i will just become complacent and stop reporting people. it never works anyway.

 

[shadow pirate]

So speaking of the black hole, here is the absolutely ridiculous response I got from them after...I dunno....weeks. First, my letter:

I still have not received my prize for the difficult and medium
event mazes. I sent a message stating that I made it to the end of both
before crashing, and spent half a day trying to get through without a
crash. I was unable to talk to a Staff member or CL b/c I crashed right
when I entered the last rooms. Can I please get the prizes I feel I
earned? I have heard from other VMK members that they were awarded the
prizes despite making it to the point of a CL taking their names. I
would love to have these items before Halloween if possible.
Thanks so much,
Miakoda


Their response:

Hi there,

Keep your eyes on the home page and the newsletter for details - we'll
always announce up coming events there.

Thanks,

--
VMK_april


I wrote back with "what kind of ridiculous response to my problem is that? blah blah" and I get the "we feel we solved your problem" email.

I love vmk so much but I sure do hate so much about it too! ARG!

~Mia~ = still angry at VMK

That's anwser to your letter is about as irrelevant as 2+2= flaming monkey ears.

 

[MiakodaWDW]

I HAVE HAD IT!I may justn march right into vmk's offices and demand that MiaKoda become a CL!

LOL thank you SO much! Let me know how it turns out! (btw, I THINK that the vmk's office is located in the 7th circle of....heck....so good luck with that!)

That's anwser to your letter is about as irrelevant as 2+2= flaming monkey ears.

How true, how true. I mean, what are they smoking? Really.

 

[miss_elphie]

I'm sorry to hear about your ban! You must be right- I'm sure VMK has a computer for checking conversations- but like Miakoda said, why have those words in the dictionary if they aren't really allowed? It makes no sense....
About our warnings the other day, Miakoda, I think we got them because we were talking about PMing each other on DIS... Do you think that's why they warned us?
Like piratesmate said, it's odd how unequal the warnings/bans are. Miakoda and I got bans for talking about PMing each other, but I've also talked about being friends with people in real life, going to school with them, and told people to log onto AIM so we could talk, but I've never gotten a warning for it.
I mean, I can see where they come from on the personal info thing, but I still think it's a bit severe at times.
Either way, I'm sorry to hear about your ban, Miakoda (as well as that inane response from VMK) and I really hope it doesn't prevent you from becoming a CL!

 

[MiakodaWDW]

Well, the way I see it, is like someone else said. Even if I can't be a CL...it's only the title that would change anything. I help ppl all the time anyway so I would just be doing the same things but have extra responsibilites. So whatever, I would like to be CL_Miakoda some day but we will see...

sometimes help is thankless. I just happened to be in the Emporium today and a girl kept asking "how do you buy a crown?" over and over. Finally I told her you can't anymore but I'd give her one of my two extras. I didn't get a thank you or anything. I love helping kids and giving them "surprise gifts" but I would at least like a thank you.

I should have saved the crown for an appreciative DIS member who needs one. I still have one extra left though, and I won't give it to some random kid I don't know! LOL.
That may make me mean but whatever......

~Mia~

 

[Captain Brain]

Well, the way I see it, is like someone else said. Even if I can't be a CL...it's only the title that would change anything. I help ppl all the time anyway so I would just be doing the same things but have extra responsibilites. So whatever, I would like to be CL_Miakoda some day but we will see...

~Mia~

Want my CL_ status?

 

[MiakodaWDW]

Want my CL_ status?

Sure, I'll trade you for a crown.

~Mia