Are You Cancelling Buffets?

We haven't made our ADR's as we haven't hit the 90 day mark yet for our weekend trip in October. However we will have to pare down what we had originally planned. My DD is turning 10 right before our trip. We had planned on Chef Mickey's, Boma and CP. We will let the kids decide which one now, and we'll let the other two go. My DD can be a fussy eater and there is no way to justify the cost of an adult price. Junior price, yes. Adult price, no way!
 
I do agree that the vast majority of children don't "eat" as much as adults do at buffets, but they certainly "use up" as much food as adults do - if that makes any sense. I visit a local buffet place often & I can't believe the food that is left on plates at the tables that have children. The parents keep fixing plates of food for their kids in hopes that they'll eat something. They take 1 bite, don't like it, & the parents are back to the bar for another plate of food in hopes that they'll like that. In the end, although I have actually eaten more than the child has, more food has been taken off the bar for them. These establishments don't care how much the child eats, it's how much they take.
Before anyone gets hostile, I'm not saying that you do that, but I do see it each & every time I go to a buffet.
 
LovesHauntedMansion said:
Before anyone gets hostile, I'm not saying that you do that, but I do see it each & every time I go to a buffet.

No, we don't allow our children to do that. My grandmother taught me better than that! (You know, starving kids in China theory!) I have seen plenty of adults do the same thing~So, why not raise the rates for adults too if that's the case? Why only the children? It's just sad! :sad2:
 
skiwee1 said:
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Whatever. No one asked for your parenting advice. After raising 3 kids who were all picky eaters and have gotten to eat just about anything as they aged I think I'll stick to my own experiences which are numerous. Just a thought but all of my 2 1/2 and 3 y/os at the time ate anything in sight. Once they hit 4 y/o they all decided to get picky. Just wondering if you have other kids with which to base your experiences on?

didn't ask for your smart mouth either....
 

lillygator said:
didn't ask for your smart mouth either....

I wasn't being smart mouthed. Just honest. No one asked for a lecture. Picky eaters doesn't mean they only eat junk food. My now 6 y/o only wanted baked chicken and steamed brocolli for her entire 3rd year. Kids go through stages. So tell me, do you have any kids over the age of 2 1/2 that you have experience with?
 
and you have already posted about paying $15 for a kid who eats nothing - that you go for the atmosphere so what are boxing gloves on for?
just because I have an opinion on the eating habits of children?
 
skiwee1 said:
I wasn't being smart mouthed. Just honest. No one asked for a lecture. Picky eaters doesn't mean they only eat junk food. My now 6 y/o only wanted baked chicken and steamed brocolli for her entire 3rd year. Kids go through stages. So tell me, do you have any kids over the age of 2 1/2 that you have experience with?

yes I do thanks a 10 year old and 18 year old.....:) and "whatever" in teen slang speech means FU...
 
The main point that many people seem to have is:

if your children eat 'kid' foods in kid sized portions and are, in fact, kids in the rest of the world, it seems unfair to expect that they pay either doule or adult prices for the kid portions of (in my oft-mentioned case) chicken fingers.

I would suggest, though, that the tone will stay a bit more civilized if those of you whose children prefer to eat adult food not imply that those of us who allow our children to eat chicken fingers and the like have unhealthy, unadventurous eaters. We love our kids too and have our own reasons for allowing them to eat what they want on vacation.
 
babybunrab said:
I would suggest, though, that the tone will stay a bit more civilized if those of you whose children prefer to eat adult food not imply that those of us who allow our children to eat chicken fingers and the like have unhealthy, unadventurous eaters.
Well said! Presumptions like that serve no constructive purpose.

There is no question that this change to synchronize the child age range between meals and admission adversely affects families with children 9 - 11 years old, and to the extent that it makes buffets no longer worthwhile to such families, they should cancel. I don't think it makes much sense to cancel if you still consider the buffets worthwhile, but want to "make a point" (effectively spiting yourself). Disney managers would have to be idiots (and they most certainly are not) to expect that this change would be universally greeted with acclaim: They surely are balancing a number of variables and determined that the benefit to long-term shareholder value outweighs the risk. We've seen many changes at WDW (and similar changes take place all the time in every industry) that result in anecdotal disappointment for some customers, but a long-term benefit for the enterprise, especially once the disappointment recedes. We can rest assured that they expect some cancellations, and a few extra won't make a difference. If this is truly a bad move, then the market will communicate that fact to management in no uncertain terms, without any need for a handful of extra families cancelling.

So my recommendation is make the best decision for your family, and then enjoy your vacation.
 
Well said Bicker! As someone who has grown up in a restaurant family (lots of buffets, catering, etc.), I must say that the biggest amount of food wastage is with children, for a multitude of reasons. As I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, parents piling food on plates in hopes of picky eaters eating is one (my friend does this, and most food goes in the garbage), kids being allowed to take whatever they want, kids touching food that then has to be thrown in the garbage or just plain big eaters. Just discussed this with my family the other day as we have all extremes in our family, from small to big eaters! I swear my niece will eat 50 lbs of olives, cheese and Mortadella if you let her and she's a very skinny 6 year old!

Bottom line is that this age category was obviously a problem area for Disney, so by raising prices, they are probably hoping that 1) They will see more profit and 2) They will see less wastage. If you are paying full price for a meal for a 9 or 10 year old, you may be more apt to closely monitor eating habits in regards to food wastage - I have actually seen this work since I've been around restaurants my entire life! Not trying to cause an argument with this statement, but I'm sure many of you have piled food on a plate for a child in the hopes that he/she may eat it, knowing full well that they probably would not. I'm wondering how much thought went into food wastage since you weren't paying very much money? My family and I have talked about this many times - customers waste tremendous amounts of food and expect the restaurant to "eat" (pardon the pun - LOL!) the costs, but when a legitimate price increase has to be made, all heck breaks loose!

As someone else mentioned, Disney is a well run corporation for a reason; therefore I'm pretty confident they didn't just arbitrarily raise prices - they've more than likely been studying eating patterns, observing buffet wastage, etc. that is what they are in the business to do! Lastly, we also have to figure that since they didn't make an all-around buffet increase for all age categories (unless this is also coming), that this must have been the area of most importance to them - whether it be to get in line with theme park ages or not.

Lastly, everyone is forgetting that most people eat at buffets for one reason, and one reason only, and that is to load up their plates! Sure Disney buffets are not cheap, but buffets are precarious to begin with - I myself eat a few dollars worth of food, but I've seen some families eat more food than I eat in a week! Therefore, one needs to decide if a buffet is right for their family period and with the price increase, this may not be feasible for some. Only time will tell!

As mentioned, everyone needs to do what is right for their family, but to suggest that Disney is thinking of each and every individual family need is silly. Anyone who has kids knows that eating and kids is a silly and crazy topic to begin with - whether you have a picky eater or a big eater like I do!

Happy eating to all, wherever that may be! Tiger
 
lillygator said:
yes I do thanks a 10 year old and 18 year old.....:) and "whatever" in teen slang speech means FU...

Well maybe your teens mean it that way. Not my kids.
 
skiwee1 said:
Well maybe your teens mean it that way. Not my kids.

from what I understand, just like utting your hand up to someone else when they are speaking means pretty much the same thing...could be a variety of those choice words....

but from the way you posted and what the rest of your post said I am quite sure you meant it in the nicest way possible....:rolleyes:


and no they don't say that to me or anyone else because it is disrespectful...


ETA* the definition of "whatever" on Urban Dictionary is what I said prior....
 
"Whatever" certainly is a term of disrespect. Basically means, I'm done with you. If I ever heard my kids say "whatever", there would be a consequence. Not quite the same as "F U" in my book, but close.
As far as kids wasting food, do you think this is more common with kids under 10? My 10 year old now knows pretty much what he will eat and what he won't. He takes less than my 7 year old. My 7 year old is probably the bigger eater, but probably wastes more food. However, we try to be very careful to not waste too much. A small spoonful of the "try it" foods is enough. As far as contaminating foods, seems like this is the younger ones, too. But, I don't know that I have ever seen a restaraunt remove food for this reason (one reason I'm not a huge buffet fan).
On the topic of kids with more sophisticated taste buds due to good parenting. :rotfl2: This may be true in some cases, but kids go through stages and tastes change over the years. My oldest used to love vegetables and would eat almost exclusively, now he'll hardly touch them. He used to hate meat, but now loves it. My younger loves both. One loves some ethnic foods, the other different. Plus, just wait until they go to school and they have pizza two or three times a week. My point, none of us are perfect parents and shouldn't judge or be judged, esp. over food choices.
Now, as far as cancelling buffets...I am pretty sure I will cancel Spirit of Aloha because I don't think I want to spend $50 for food that I have heard to be so, so and a show described the same for a 10 year old. I was on the fence on this one anyway. Trip is mid-aug. and AR is 5:00, so it will be hot, also read that is a bad idea. Also, may cancel Boma. I don't know if 10 year old will eat well enough to justify the buffet price. May be better off to go to a table service.
 
On the topic of kids with more sophisticated taste buds due to good parenting. :rotfl2: This may be true in some cases said:
ITA. What is annoying is the parents that think for some reason they are the best in the world because their kid choses to eat a carrot. It seems to bring out a lot of chest thumping. Ridiculous.
 
skiwee1 said:
ITA. What is annoying is the parents that think for some reason they are the best in the world because their kid choses to eat a carrot. It seems to bring out a lot of chest thumping. Ridiculous.

I know as an adult I have gone through stages myself...everyones eating habits are different from one end of the spectrum to the other....I was not implying that I am a "best parent" I was simply saying that in my experience I think what food choices have been introduced lead the child...if a person has never touched nuggets, fries, etc.....KWIM? - in terms of "pickiness" not amounts....

I do think that what is going back and forth on here is not the pickiness in terms of "food choices" because WDW seems to have a good handle on offering a variety, but the AMOUNTS....charging a child's plate the same as an adult....

we will pay and I won't have a problem, we like the variety, the ability to have the characters interact with us without getting cut in front of, etc, to me that is worth a few dollars more.
 
let's all play nice shall we?

I am sticking with my AR when we go in august and telling them I made the AR in May as I did. I am going to politely discuss with them that I was told the reservation price would be honored because of the date it was booked. I am hopeful that the first month or two of this they will be reasonable and fair and honor what they said. If they don't oh well. We can choose to pay it, or go somewhere else. Food will not make or break a disney vacation for my chicken finger eating 11 year old :rotfl:
 
Goodness - paying an adult price for a child's (9-11) is NOT appropriate. Children wasting more than adults? I guess others on this board may be more informed than me but if a kid doesn't eat the first plate what makes them so sure they would go get another? While on the other hand, I've seen adults go back put on more and more food to sample - find out they don't like it and don't eat it. No it is not everyone but some do and some kids do waste food. I waste food - if I get something off the buffet I don't like - guess what? I'm not eating it! But I won't be putting more of it back on a new plate. Kids are people too and they have some sense and if they didn't like it the first time they won't be putting it back on a new plate the 2nd go-around. Any ways, one person would have to EAT most probably 7-9 plates of food to get anywhere near the cost of $25+ for a buffet. I just don't ever see ANYONE doing that - a kid whose 9, 10 or 11 or even an ADULT!

Do all you people believe that Disney is going to Publix or Kroger in the morning and paying supermarket prices for their food? Nope, it is sold to Disney at a discount and in large quantities.

The amount of food wasted by customers shouldn't be the least of Disney worries. Are they going to keep any food left over at the end of the day for the next days customers? I don't think so. I am sure that some of planning that goes into the meals preparation for the day is done well in advance. To me, this new plan can actually cause Disney to prepare more food as they are thinking more food needed as more adult meals are paid for.

I do believe that some families will re-think their dining based on the new costs for the buffets.
 
We are doing one character meal. The funny thing is that we really are only going for my 7 year old. 10 year old and DH don't really care (we could split up, I know, but we like to stick together). The higher cost for the 10 year old is OK, because this is really for the character interaction. I just find it ironic that the one we hope gets the most out of it is the one charged the least. :rotfl:
My irk with the price change is the short notice, mostly. We are using the dining plan so it really isn't a big deal for me, just the principle. I think they should honor the price of AR's made prior to the cost change, I'm eager to see what happens.
 
What is annoying on this board is the utter disrespect and negativity that civilized people have for each other. I can't believe that a conversation about children's eating habits has turned some of you into name calling, slamming people! You should be ashamed.

EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION. That doesn't mean you have to respect it. But to stoop to telling people to FU and to say "whatever" and to criticize others because of what their children eat is absolutely wrong.

I don't care if some of you wish to reply and attack me. I am a teacher and the first thing I tell my students is they will respect EVERYONE and their opinions. It sure is easy to tell where some kids get their attitude from. It is the way society thinks it is okay to treat others like crap because of something they said or did.
 


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