Are they finally trying to get to grips with the smoking issue?

[RoseBug]

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Someone on another forum posted this. And another member had emailed them and were told that they were aware of the problem and looking into it!

From the reply:
Further to your query, I would like to assure you that considerable attention is currently being paid with regard to comments on the amount of smoking within Disneyland® Paris .

Fingers crossed!

 

[Carrie_Cat]

That seems normal as signs go as it's inside so an enclosed area..which is illegal to smoke in..and should be standard, so for them it's a start

They can't do anything about people smoking out doors while waiting for parades, walking around or even sitting on open air terraces.

And unfortunately I think that these replies are just bog standard ones that they send out like the complaint ones.

Maybe one day they will get on to it but it's not going to be soon, they don't have the resources to open restaurants as they should, ensure cleaner toilets, police character meet and greets etc etc. Smoking is very very low down on a list of priorites I think

 

[RoseBug]

That seems normal as signs go as it's inside so an enclosed area..which is illegal to smoke in..and should be standard, so for them it's a start

They can't do anything about people smoking out doors while waiting for parades, walking around or even sitting on open air terraces.

And unfortunately I think that these replies are just bog standard ones that they send out like the complaint ones.

Maybe one day they will get on to it but it's not going to be soon, they don't have the resources to open restaurants as they should, ensure cleaner toilets, police character meet and greets etc etc. Smoking is very very low down on a list of priorites I think

It was a different reply to the one I got when I emailed about it after our 2009 trip, I was told then that smoking wasn't an issue!

 

[Carrie_Cat]

I'll believe it when I see CMs telling people to stop smoking I'm afraid

I think I've been here too long, I've gotten cynical about things like this

 

[RoseBug]

I'll believe it when I see CMs telling people to stop smoking I'm afraid

I think I've been here too long, I've gotten cynical about things like this

 

[Vala]

I'm with Carrie, I'll believe it when a CM does something.

On April 30 we were cornered by no less then 4 people smoking when waiting for the parade. I have asthma, so we politely asked them to put the cigs out. We were ignored. Called a CM over, who just shrugged. I guess it was an improvement that someone actually came over, maybe that is what they meant.

 

[cherrymarzipan]

Reading another trip report from guests finding the smoking in the park unpleasant I thought I would return to this topic as I don't really understand about not being able to stop people smoking outdoors for the reason that it is not illegal there. Surely Disney can set and therefore enforce their own rules on their own patch in the same way that they can forbid glass bottles in the park? (I think, never tried)

I agree that in countries where smoking is not frowned on to the same extent it is a difficult concept to get over and individual CMs might find it intimidating at first to stamp down on but with more signs at entrances and perhaps mention on the website as well as more prominence given to the policy on park maps, timetables etc enforcement would come more easily.

I agree with Carrie that smoking is very low down on Disney's list of priorities but why? It is not really a costly policy and would be welcomed by so many visitors.

 

[thephoo]

Smoking isn't pleasant to a non smoker or a former smoker but I must admit I find all this ban smoking outdoors a little distasteful and I say this as a non-smoker.

There is such a thing as free will and people who smoke are not evil, they are not the enemy. If someone walks past you smoking then move away. That is your right, likewise if that person wants to smoke then that too is their right. I find some reactions on here a little hysterical to be honest.

I do not condone smoking in non smoking areas but to have people banned from smoking who are just wandering down Main Street is just ridiculous in my opinion. After all, what difference is there from walking down Main St to walking down your local high street, unless you're trying to petition people to ban smoking there too?

The flipside to this is that smoking shouldn't be allowed in crowds, although I'm sure the average smoker wouldn't light up a cigarette in that scenario (and yes I'm sure many of you have horror stories) but for those who do, a little bit of guidance from a CM wouldn't go amiss.

 

[cherrymarzipan]

Yes, but a lot of the time walking down Main Street involves walking in a crowd and it is very unpleasant to be in a smoker's slip stream and it's not always possible to take avoiding action. That's the point, it is the smoker who just continues on their merry way while the non-smoker who doesn't want to have to inhale what are after all toxic chemicals that has to move away.

If the smokers could just confine their habit to the areas provided they would get their fix and everyone should be happy. It just seems to be a matter of getting the idea over.

 

[RoseBug]

Smoking isn't pleasant to a non smoker or a former smoker but I must admit I find all this ban smoking outdoors a little distasteful and I say this as a non-smoker.

There is such a thing as free will and people who smoke are not evil, they are not the enemy. If someone walks past you smoking then move away. That is your right, likewise if that person wants to smoke then that too is their right. I find some reactions on here a little hysterical to be honest.

I do not condone smoking in non smoking areas but to have people banned from smoking who are just wandering down Main Street is just ridiculous in my opinion. After all, what difference is there from walking down Main St to walking down your local high street, unless you're trying to petition people to ban smoking there too?

The flipside to this is that smoking shouldn't be allowed in crowds, although I'm sure the average smoker wouldn't light up a cigarette in that scenario (and yes I'm sure many of you have horror stories) but for those who do, a little bit of guidance from a CM wouldn't go amiss.

I think in a children's theme park it should be in designated areas only tbh, but actually, my complaints are directed at the times when smoking has affected me in DLP, which are in line to see characters and during parades, as well as in other crowded areas where children where around - on the last 2 occasions we have been there this has happened: in the Winnie the Pooh meet queue, with someone blowing smoke on my 4 month old baby who was in my arms, someone else flicking ash on her when she was in her buggy, in the queue for Mickey when my husband nearly got hit in the eye with someone waving their cig around; people lighting up next to us in the parade crowd and almost burning our pushchair, blowing smoke on us and our daughter ... so I think there does need to be alot of direction at DLP about smoking. I am not sure where the hysterical responses are tbh, as I think most complaints refer to queues and parade crowds, which I think are totally justified!

I don't think smoking should be banned on the average highstreet - however DLP is not your average highstreet, it is a child's theme park and I do think smoking should be banned in areas specifically for children.

 

[Carrie_Cat]

- however DLP is not your average highstreet, it is a child's theme park and I do think smoking should be banned in areas specifically for children.

That's the rub though it is not only a child's theme park only for children and therefore doesn't come under any smoking laws as they stand at the present time..for the moment it's a grey area and I think that the gouvernement has more to do than redebate the law on smoking atm

 

[cherrymarzipan]

But why does it have to be down to the government and legislation? Unlike a high street, DLP is not a public space, it is owned by Disney who can make up their own rules (as long as these don' contravene laws). It should be perfectly possible for them to make smoking restricted to certain areas if they have the will to do so.

It would be interesting to do a poll and find out the proportions who feel smoking should be restricted to designated areas, totally free throughout all outside areas or just left as it is, unenforced. Ban it, condone it or don't care?

 

[Ms Poppins]

There shouldn't need to be a 'law' or a 'rule' about this. It's just consideration of other people. It's unacceptable to blow smoke in a child's face, Disney or not.

Unfortunately, I don't know what the answer is Personally I've never noticed it (and I'm a non-smoker)

 

[thephoo]

There shouldn't need to be a 'law' or a 'rule' about this. It's just consideration of other people. It's unacceptable to blow smoke in a child's face, Disney or not.

Unfortunately, I don't know what the answer is Personally I've never noticed it (and I'm a non-smoker)

Completely agree with this

 

[thephoo]

I think in a children's theme park it should be in designated areas only tbh, but actually, my complaints are directed at the times when smoking has affected me in DLP, which are in line to see characters and during parades, as well as in other crowded areas where children where around - on the last 2 occasions we have been there this has happened: in the Winnie the Pooh meet queue, with someone blowing smoke on my 4 month old baby who was in my arms, someone else flicking ash on her when she was in her buggy, in the queue for Mickey when my husband nearly got hit in the eye with someone waving their cig around; people lighting up next to us in the parade crowd and almost burning our pushchair, blowing smoke on us and our daughter ... so I think there does need to be alot of direction at DLP about smoking. I am not sure where the hysterical responses are tbh, as I think most complaints refer to queues and parade crowds, which I think are totally justified!

I don't think smoking should be banned on the average highstreet - however DLP is not your average highstreet, it is a child's theme park and I do think smoking should be banned in areas specifically for children.

Ok, well firstly DLRP is not a children's theme park and I'm sure the many thousands of adult visitors would object to you saying that.

And secondly, without wanting to get personal - one man's "blowing smoke on my 4 month old baby" is another man's having a cigarette whilst he waits for a photo of Winnie the Pooh. I'm not saying you're hysterical but can't you see it's subjective?

 

[babymaddie]

My parents recent room at the DLH stunk vile of cigarette smoke ( It was pretty bad, They are avid non smokers all their lives so to them it was quite horrid. We had interconnecting rooms and couldnt be moved elsewhere so we got air freshners and opened the window. Smoking must go on in the rooms too - shame.

 

[Carrie_Cat]

My parents recent room at the DLH stunk vile of cigarette smoke ( It was pretty bad, They are avid non smokers all their lives so to them it was quite horrid. We had interconnecting rooms and couldnt be moved elsewhere so we got air freshners and opened the window. Smoking must go on in the rooms too - shame.

That's bad for them and even worse that they couldn't be moved but as I've found before DLP still have smoking rooms in their hotels

http://www.disneylandparis-business.com/en/hotels_conferences/disneyland_hotel

 

[Jonjo]

You have to remember it was only in 2007 that a smoking ban came into force in France and the ban on smoking in restaurants and bars in Spain only came into force last year.

So it will take a long time for the attitude towards smoking and the cultural shift that we have in the UK and Ireland to happen in France.

As a non-smoker I do notice it, but if someone stands next to me and lights up I ask them to kindly put it out, and so far they always have.

A smoke free park would be a nice thing, but until all the Disney theme parks around the world introduce one I don't think it will be happening any time soon.

I would like to see DLP introduce the same smoking ban in the hotels that WDW has. Having to keep on asking for a non-smoking room is a pain.

 

[Cyrano]

I have always maintained that until guests keep drawing attention to the smoking issue management will do nothing about it.

In a previous trip; which was long before the smoking ban, a guest who refused to stub out was removed from a queue.
Now that may have been to appease me as I took the CMs name and said that if they did not deal with it I wanted a manager to be called.
Most of the other guests in the queue show their delight when the offender was removed.

I should say that I did not act or say anything disrespectfully; unlike the smoker, but equally stood my ground.

 

[lilacgems23]

Smoking isn't pleasant to a non smoker or a former smoker but I must admit I find all this ban smoking outdoors a little distasteful and I say this as a non-smoker.

There is such a thing as free will and people who smoke are not evil, they are not the enemy. If someone walks past you smoking then move away. That is your right, likewise if that person wants to smoke then that too is their right. I find some reactions on here a little hysterical to be honest.

I do not condone smoking in non smoking areas but to have people banned from smoking who are just wandering down Main Street is just ridiculous in my opinion. After all, what difference is there from walking down Main St to walking down your local high street, unless you're trying to petition people to ban smoking there too?

The flipside to this is that smoking shouldn't be allowed in crowds, although I'm sure the average smoker wouldn't light up a cigarette in that scenario (and yes I'm sure many of you have horror stories) but for those who do, a little bit of guidance from a CM wouldn't go amiss.

I 100% agree with this but didn't post this before as I feared a bashing lol.

My husand is a smoker and I hate smoke around me but if they banned smoking in disneyland we would never be able to visit again.