Apple computer purchase advice

I have a MacBook at home and a Dell laptop at work. I'd pick the MacBook over the Dell any day, any time. The Dell laptop is one month old, and it's already giving me problems. We've only had cosmetic issues with the MacBook, and Apple repaired those with no problems.
 
Although the Apple marketing people would LOVE everyone to believe this, it simply isn't true. Take away the pretty case and logos and what you have in both cases, be it Dell or Apple, is an identical computer. They both use the same processors, memory chips etc., are are both made in the same factories in China.

To be accurate, think of the comparison more like a Chevy with a regular paint job vs a Chevy with a customized paint job, spinners and a spoiler. They with both do what you want, but if you believe that the extras are worth it to you, then by all means buy it. Just don't fall into the marketing hype.

But I'm sure you'd agree that you get from point A to point B via a different route....no?

I have had an HP, a Dell and a Toshiba. I'll take my iMac any day.

It's my opinion that Macs are more user friendly and work the way my brain works. It seems to me that my iMac is more logical (to my way of thinking) than any other computer I've ever owned.
 
I've got both, and each has things that the other doesn't.

Macs just work, (generally)...although networking them with other operating systems is a hassle. Most people won't notice as they have some neat applications that make this moot (Dropbox, etc.)

PC's can be finicky, but are extremely powerful and able to run more software natively, and with speed! Man, my PC just destroys my MBP, but I can't carry it to class! LOL.

What I love about Mac though, is the feel of it. That is my favourite part.

Although the guts are the same, the way Apple has implemented their OS with their hardware is pretty terrific, and to say that a Dell and a Mac have the same level of polish (externally) is just not supportable.
 
But I'm sure you'd agree that you get from point A to point B via a different route....no?

I have had an HP, a Dell and a Toshiba. I'll take my iMac any day.

It's my opinion that Macs are more user friendly and work the way my brain works. It seems to me that my iMac is more logical (to my way of thinking) than any other computer I've ever owned.

On that point i agree with you 100%. At that point it's a personal preference, and whether the extra $$$ spent on a Mac verses an equivalent PC is worth it for you.

Funny you mentioned iMacs. I've just walked in the door from Best Buy. With three small children, myself and our live-in nanny, we needed a second computer. I tried out an iMac and an Acer Aspire. For me, I couldn't justify spending the extra $800 for the iMac, but I wouldn't criticize those that would choose otherwise.
 

We are thinking of getting an Apple/Mac laptop computer.

I just bought four Dell Inspiron laptops for the library. 4GB memory, 320GB hard drive, 15.6" screen for $529 each.

What would be comparable? Something around $1,000?

I know there are some strong Apple fans here. What would you suggest?
Thanks!


Just arranged for my Dad to give my Mom a MacBook and she is loving it. She does not need a huge screen so the MacBook is perfect for her. I, personally, have an iMac at home and a MacBook Pro at work and really love both of them.
 
But I'm sure you'd agree that you get from point A to point B via a different route....no?

I have had an HP, a Dell and a Toshiba. I'll take my iMac any day.

It's my opinion that Macs are more user friendly and work the way my brain works. It seems to me that my iMac is more logical (to my way of thinking) than any other computer I've ever owned.

How long ago did you last own a PC? Windows 7 in strangely familiar to the mac interface....almost eerie...

I own both, if I was paying out of pocket (my mac is a work purchase) I would not spend the extra money on a mac.
 
How long ago did you last own a PC? Windows 7 in strangely familiar to the mac interface....almost eerie...

I own both, if I was paying out of pocket (my mac is a work purchase) I would not spend the extra money on a mac.

I used a PC up until last Christmas. I got the iMac as a Christmas present.

Between my iMac and MacBook....I know what works best for me.
 
How long ago did you last own a PC? Windows 7 in strangely familiar to the mac interface....almost eerie...

DH would heartily disagree with you, and he is a PC guy. While he thinks Windows7 is an improvement over Vista, his opinion is that it is nowhere near a Mac. Still lots of pitfalls and many times he has to go 'under the covers' to fix it. He also believes that at first blush it might look more Mac like, usability wise it is nowhere near.
 
OP, if what you want is a, "souped up iPhone," have you thought about an iPad?

I'm not really into tech stuff, but the next computer I get, I'm trying a mac. I really like the way everything is easy to use on the iPhone and mac people say the computers are like that, too.

I've had enough trouble with PCs and their customer service people who don't understand English. And though I really hate Vista, the Vista is really the straw that broke the camel's back.

I'm not one of these folks who does lots of research on phones and computers before I buy them. I tend to stick with companies about whom I've heard good stuff and/or have good experiences.

If the iPhone's phone service worked, I'd be in love with the thing.

Mac it will be. :)

I have a water bottle that keeps my water cool and doesn't sweat. I don't even know the name of it. I don't care that much about water bottle names, frankly. Doubt that it's a hydroflask because I wouldn't spend that much on a water bottle. I don't really get the comparison of water bottles and computers.
 
You know, I had to reply to this because as a geek I see both sides.

I have a LOT of Apple products and a lot of PCs too. For my servers I run pcs with linux and windows on them, for my pc I use for development (yes, windows apps right now) I use a quad core AMD based processor but...

When I go on vacation and need to mess with photos or videos or even just ease of start and go, I use my Mac. I know people go on and on about the same parts in the different brands but, lets look at it like this. Take two cards, same insides, same motor, same everything, but now say the onboard computer running that car's system is different. One of the cars has an OS that is written to be backwards compatible for years and thus will sometimes have kludges (a sort of makeshift fix but not a "great" fix) to make it work together. Also say that car can sometimes run slower because of the way the management and caches (its temporary data) is managed. Now take that car and throw in that, whether by fault of the OS or the software the user "needs" to use, gets infected randomly. This is Windows.

Now, personally, I like windows and it has its place, but its usually best in a place with people who know how to fix it. You look at IE, Firefox etc, they have had very easy to exploit holes that all it took was a web page that would load code onto your pc whether you allowed it or not. Think of Adobe Acrobat that had an issue for a while where it could use a fake web site to load a trojan on your pc. All it takes is a hole in the software you are using and bam, you are now infected. You need to have someone help you reinstall windows 95% of the time because the trojan is so deep you cannot remove it without hours of work. This is not an "every time" case because sometimes people fall for those fake antivirus "infected" ads or runs something from a file sharing website, but the biggest point is, on a PC, there are SO many ways to do NOTHING yet still get infected. All the page has to do is trick google into displaying the web page they want based on your search, this is done a lot and how I see a great amount of people infected.

Now lets look at OSX, the Apple's OS. It is Unix based BUT that is not always what makes it secure. In this case I wont lie, its security through obscurity. There are basically no trojans targeted at mac users, its basically a waste to focus it since most will be running Windows. I have never had to help my mother with her computer since I got her a 13 inch Mac Book.

I type this from my 15 inch Mac Book Pro Unibody (and it was expensive too) but I love it, it always follows me on vacation because video editing and creation is so easy, same with photo stuff, with iPhoto and iMovie, you have all you need. Most people use their computer for family photos, occasional home movies and web browsing. OSX gives you all that on purchase without any issues. Of course now Windows you get for free the Windows Live Essentials which is MS's version of a photo editor and movie maker but out of everyone I have seen that used both, OSX/iLife products always came out on top for ease of use and ability to handle and use their camera out of the box.

Anyone I have helped convert to a make has LOVED it because it is so easy to pick up and start using. It is geared towards the "average user" where Windows tends to be geared towards tweakers and modders who dont mind getting deep into the OS to change stuff. It is not "bad" by any means but if you just want something for school work or basic home uses, I always think Mac is the way to go if you can afford it.

I wrote this sitting here with my iPad beside me, my iPhone by the window (provides my wifi via a jailbroken iPhone) and my Mac Book Pro at my fingertips.

At the Polynesian now and still a bit pumped after going to the Night Of Joy and then going down to the Captain Cooks place here and seeing Mercy Me just hanging out after doing their concert. No one knew it was them apparently rofl.

Anyhow yea, I hope my 6am rambling made sense here because I just tried to point out the best way possible that for average home use, kids homework, grandmas photos etc, a Mac computer seems to come out ahead in the people I have helped and talked to.
 
Although the guts are the same, the way Apple has implemented their OS with their hardware is pretty terrific, and to say that a Dell and a Mac have the same level of polish (externally) is just not supportable.


Agreed - yes they both use basically the same innards, but it's the way they are designed, and especially since Apple also controls the OS, that they are not "just the same machine in a prettier box"...

It's another case of "price vs. "value"...

I've worked on Windows machines at work every day for a decade or two... I currently have five Macs in my house... take that for what it's worth... ;-)

Andy
 
If price is an issue, you might want to check out the Apple Referb site.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?mco=OTY2ODY3Nw

I have purchased many items here from iPods to computers and would not hesitate to buy anything Apple Referb.

I managed to snag a Mac Mini for under $500- a while back. If you already have a nice monitor, you are an Apple keyboard away from a Mac system.

Keep checking the site, the inventory changes frequently.
 
If price is an issue, you might want to check out the Apple Referb site.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?mco=OTY2ODY3Nw

I have purchased many items here from iPods to computers and would not hesitate to buy anything Apple Referb.

I managed to snag a Mac Mini for under $500- a while back. If you already have a nice monitor, you are an Apple keyboard away from a Mac system.

Keep checking the site, the inventory changes frequently.

This is a great option, in my opinion. Every machine I have had for work (I work at Apple, which is why the only opinion I ever offer in the Mac vs. PC conversation is NOT my own, lest I be seen as biased!) for the last decade has been a refurb. Had one where the HD has issues initially but it was quickly replaced. All others, and there have been at least 7 of them, have been fantastic from the moment they booted up.
 
This is a great option, in my opinion. Every machine I have had for work (I work at Apple, which is why the only opinion I ever offer in the Mac vs. PC conversation is NOT my own, lest I be seen as biased!) for the last decade has been a refurb. Had one where the HD has issues initially but it was quickly replaced. All others, and there have been at least 7 of them, have been fantastic from the moment they booted up.

Refurb is a great option for those that don't necessarily need "the latest and greatest". It's especially good immediately after they announce a new line. The old ones can be bought at a good deal cheaper than they were before the new line was announced.

I'm not sure if the Apple store charges for shipping or not. For the price conscience, make sure to check this, and add it to your costs, as it could be pricey (not Apple specific, but for any item shipped).
 
I'm not sure if the Apple store charges for shipping or not. For the price conscience, make sure to check this, and add it to your costs, as it could be pricey (not Apple specific, but for any item shipped).

Free shipping on all Apple Referbs. You should, however, be aware that you cannot return a Referb purchase to a local Apple Store. It has to be shipped back to Apple.
 
We are thinking of getting an Apple/Mac laptop computer.

I just bought four Dell Inspiron laptops for the library. 4GB memory, 320GB hard drive, 15.6" screen for $529 each.

What would be comparable? Something around $1,000?

I know there are some strong Apple fans here. What would you suggest?
Thanks!

Most of the Apple products run

Not much. Apple Macbooks start at $999. A 13" Macbook

For a 15" screen you'll be over $1700 probably in the $1700-2000 range (I don't have the exact numbers). A core i5 with 320GB HD and 15inch screen is $1799... Unfortunately, the stats you list are only part of the story and you'd need to list more to really get a comparible machine. All in all, a PC will be cheaper, although many would argue that the Mac books are better made and better designed.
 
Just remember, with Macs, you can dual boot if you ever need windows, I have an older (mid 2009) Macbook, and I have it running snow leopard and Windows 7. I enjoy my macbook, and would never go back to a dell or HP.
 


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