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Amerithin or Medi Weightloss?

How'd it work for you?

Have a couple of friends doing Medi right now. One has lost 52pounds in about 12 weeks I guess.
All I know about it is that it is a b12 shot everyweek & omega 3 vitamins. and it starts with a 500cal diet! :scared1:

Of course seeing the results from someone make me want to dump the $ into it....BUT....I know the unlikely that it will be a permanent weight loss....BUT a great jumpstart would be HUGE!!!
 
There's a similar diet to that one near where I am and it does NOT work. Yes you get quick weight loss, but at major risk to your health, and there is little to no long term success. A friend of mine used to edit trade magazines, and when this cardiologist board magazine found out that this diet bought advertising space in their mag then threatened to pull the whole thing (as in not publish the magazine at all) because of the major medical traumas (including deathS) they've seen due to the diet. I'd tread with extreme caution.
 
One of my girlfriends did a diet very similar to the Medi and she did lose about 65 pounds in less than 6 months. That was two years ago and she's regained about 35 of those pounds back. AND she's working out 5 days a week for at least 60 minutes per workout.

And frankly, she looked healthier before she went on that diet. She looks like she's aged 10 years in 2.
 
Any diet that is that low in calories is most likely going to fail in the long run.

For one, you are burning muscles as well as fat which can slow your natural metabolism.

Second, it is very hard to get the amounts of protein, fats, and carbs that your body needs to function correctly with those amounts of calories.

Third, you also need more calories then that for basic bodily functions (called your BMR). My BMR, for example, is in the 1700's per day and that doesn't take into account my activity levels.

Forth, they fail in the long term because you are NOT learning how to eat correctly. When you start adding calories back, you start seeing weight gain again. You don't understand portions.

Diets in general do not work. The reason? They are too restrictive and don't teach you how to eat and live in the long run. How many people are going to eat 500 calories a day for the rest of their lives? How many people are never going to eat carbs again for the rest of their lives? It should be a lifestyle change... not a temporary diet.
 

My coworker did it an lost a ton in a few months. She put it all back on almost just as fast.
 
I did Medi Weight loss I lost 40 lbs in 3 months which I kept off for 2 years. You start out with very low calories and a stomach full of supplements, the first week is VERY hard. Then you start to feel great, less hungry. It is low carb and you slowly add back calories. I stopped taking the appetite suppressant after the first month, since I did not feel hungry anymore. I also bought my own supplements similar to theirs after the initial supply ran out, due to their ridiculous cost. I did sublingual B12 instead of their shots which are pricey and burn. And the staff giving the shots, did not really seem to know what they were doing.

To keep the weight off I transitioned to South Beach Diet and exercised, which I had not been doing much of before the program. I am not a huge fan of the Medi program really, since they are all about charging you a fortune for very little guidance or sound nutritional advice, but it was a good start for me. The staff was ill informed and they had a huge turnover. The appetite suppressant really was a huge help to me in the beginning though, until I adjusted to less calories. If you can get your Doctor or find someplace else that will prescribe it, it helps a lot with the start of a lower calorie diet.
 
Diets in general do not work. The reason? They are too restrictive and don't teach you how to eat and live in the long run. How many people are going to eat 500 calories a day for the rest of their lives? How many people are never going to eat carbs again for the rest of their lives? It should be a lifestyle change... not a temporary diet.

Exactly. Diets don't work in the long term, only lifestyle changes work. Eating the proper amount of good, healthy foods and getting exercise everyday is really the only way to have long term success.

All these fad diets do is promise results without hard work and that just isn't going to work in the end. Don't look for the easy way out, look for the right way out.
 
Don't look for the easy way out, look for the right way out.

DINGDINGDING! We have a winner.

The only to lose weight is to burn more energy than you take in. Regular exercise, sensible food choices, active life. That's it.
 
Thanks for the opinions.

Of course I know the right way to do it...I'd just like a kick start of some kind. I get those first 15-20 pounds down - 2-3 months in & I've fallen off the wagon! Only I can tell - noone else can tell & I can't keep the motivation going.
 
Those types of diet plans have zero long-term success. Even when you are finished with the program you WILL gain the weight back, even if you really watch what you eat and exercise. With that limited amount of calorie intake, your body goes into starvation mode and banks all of the calories you eat, so you gain weight at a much faster pace when you start eating a balanced diet again -- even a restricted diet. You will gain it all back and probably then some, and you will be out a bunch of money. Don't do it. It's bad for your body. Do it slow and steady. There's no quick fix for long-term success.
 
Hi.
I read your post and whilst I haven't heard of these diets as I'm from the Uk I was really surprised to see you would have B12 shots.
I have B12 anemia and I don't really see how b12 would help you lose weight, the only reason I could think they would give you that is because you would begetting no iron or vitamins in the diet itself.
B12 is what the body uses to "latch on" to iron so that it can use it. I don't produce enough so it wouldn't matter if I had a ton of iron in my system, my body can't use it. I have to have b12 injections about once every 6 weeks,when I was pregnant this went up to once a week and I am still having them more regularly 10 months on.
This is proper medical stuff you are dealing with here and I would just be careful about doing something like this without doctors support.

I don't know how much weight you have to lose but I am sure that a more traditional way of doing it would be better for you.
At the end of the day ANY diet can help you lose weight, you will lose weight if you eat less calories than your body uses each day. All the other stuff, vitamins, fat etc is really complicated and means you can't eat some of your favourite foods.
Theres a reason you still see skinny people in macdonalds! I'm back to 134lbs right now and I have an active metabolic rate ofabout 1750kcal a day. (you can work yours out online.just goolgle it) so if I want a quarter pounder for lunch I can have one, they're 550kcal. I just skip the fries and the coke! That still leaves me with plently of calories left for the day. If I want a bar of chocolate, 250 kcal. Fine. Its all about moderation and what works for you.
I have an app on my iphone that lets meenterand track thecalories ofeverything I eat. When I am trying to lose weight I set my target as 1200 kcal aday, but if I go over by a couple of hundred I know I'm still losing, just a bit slower, or I go for a bike ride! whatever but I never starve myself and I allow myself to eat anything, just portion control (I weigh EVERYTHING!) and just be honeset about what your eating with yourself!:cheer2:
 
Guess I'm the exception that proves the rule here. I did a VLCD last summer. Lost 21lbs in 3 weeks, dropped 2 dress sizes, and have maintained that weight/size loss ever since.

OP, even though I've done one of these kinds of crash diets I wouldn't outright recommend them. They don't retrain your eating habits, making it harder to maintain the weight loss afterwards. I don't have a problem maintaining but I'm pretty active. If someone was determined to do it I really wouldn't go with one of the commercial plans anyway. They're just money makers and a complete rip-off. You'd be better off buying Lyle McDonald's Rapid Fat Loss Handbook. The guy knows his stuff.
 
Guess I'm the exception that proves the rule here. I did a VLCD last summer. Lost 21lbs in 3 weeks, dropped 2 dress sizes, and have maintained that weight/size loss ever since.

OP, even though I've done one of these kinds of crash diets I wouldn't outright recommend them. They don't retrain your eating habits, making it harder to maintain the weight loss afterwards. I don't have a problem maintaining but I'm pretty active. If someone was determined to do it I really wouldn't go with one of the commercial plans anyway. They're just money makers and a complete rip-off. You'd be better off buying Lyle McDonald's Rapid Fat Loss Handbook. The guy knows his stuff.

One year isn't long term though. 5, 10, 20 years is long term. Don't get me wrong, I wish you nothing but success and hope you continue to be the exception to the rule but so far you are still in the short-term.
 
One year isn't long term though. 5, 10, 20 years is long term. Don't get me wrong, I wish you nothing but success and hope you continue to be the exception to the rule but so far you are still in the short-term.

True.

I guess I was trying to address the idea that some people have that the weight is instantly regained. While that's common it's only because people go right back to eating like they were previously. While metabolism slows a little because your body is carrying less weight (this happens no matter how you lose weight), 'starvation mode' isn't something that happens to anyone with more than 5-10% body fat. Above that, muscle wasting won't happen if you're getting enough protein. It doesn't hang on to fat when it stored it precisely to use as an energy source when food is scarce. This kind of thing is just the kind of nonsense supplement companies selling protein shakes came up with and it's been repeated so much that everyone thinks it's the truth.

To be fair, ~95% of all 'diets' (whether that's an actual plan like Atkins or just reducing calories and eating healthy) 'fail' because changing habits is damn hard.

And I wanto to reiterate that from a long term perspective a more moderate eating plan is definitely better. Even Lyle McDonald (mentioned in my previous post) advises a more moderate approach in his own 'crash diet' book.
 
True.

I guess I was trying to address the idea that some people have that the weight is instantly regained. While that's common it's only because people go right back to eating like they were previously. While metabolism slows a little because your body is carrying less weight (this happens no matter how you lose weight), 'starvation mode' isn't something that happens to anyone with more than 5-10% body fat. Above that, muscle wasting won't happen if you're getting enough protein. It doesn't hang on to fat when it stored it precisely to use as an energy source when food is scarce. This kind of thing is just the kind of nonsense supplement companies selling protein shakes came up with and it's been repeated so much that everyone thinks it's the truth.

To be fair, ~95% of all 'diets' (whether that's an actual plan like Atkins or just reducing calories and eating healthy) 'fail' because changing habits is damn hard.

And I wanto to reiterate that from a long term perspective a more moderate eating plan is definitely better. Even Lyle McDonald (mentioned in my previous post) advises a more moderate approach in his own 'crash diet' book.

You bring up another important point and that is muscle wasting. A very common misconception is that cardio is the only effective exercise for weightloss which is very much not the case. I think adding some resistance training (free weights, circuit, bands, whatever) is extremely important if you are trying to lose weight.

When you lift weights you are damaging muscle fibers which the body then needs to rebuild, that is what makes the muscle stronger. Well, not only do you burn calories when you are physically doing the work of lifting weights but that rebuilding is extremely calorie intensive. Cardio will give you more bang for the buck while you are actually doing the running, jogging, biking, swimming, or whatever but you stop burning calories much closer to when you stop as opposed to resistance training where you will burn calories for hours after you put down that last weight or get off of that last machine.

This highlights another falsehood many dieters believe, and that is that the scale is the great arbiter of success. Muscle weighs more than fat so building muscle while you are losing fat might make the scale move more slowly in the down direction but that really doesn't matter, you are still losing fat which is ultimately the goal. Turning 5 pounds of fat into 5 pounds of muscle will not only make you generally smaller but will also increase you basal metabolic rate which is the number of calories you consume just existing.

When I or the experts talk about a lifestyle change sometimes that is overly vague. What I and most of them mean is that your new lifestyle will include the following (as mine does now):

Doing some form of exercise every day or just about every day. This could mean a nightly walk/jog/run, biking someplace instead of taking the car, joining a gym, or hitting the community pool. Ideally you will do a couple of these on alternating days.

Scrutinizing the menu at a restaurant and going with a healthier choice the majority of the time even if something less healthy looks better.

Cooking more and making processed food less.

Changing how you shop. Maybe you buy fresh food every other day instead of packaged food twice a month.

Reading labels. This can't be stressed enough. It will make you notice portion size (something often overlooked) and see what you are putting in your body. If you don't recognize something in the ingredient list chances are you don't want it in your body.

Doing small things like parking further away or taking the stairs instead of the elevator.

Altering your leisuretime activities. Maybe not reading for 3 hours a day but reading for 2 hours and walking or hiking for 1.

My favorite, doing more and watching less. Instead of watching tennis on TV for example grab a friend and go play tennis.

Hopefully this is helpful information.
 
You bring up another important point and that is muscle wasting. A very common misconception is that cardio is the only effective exercise for weightloss which is very much not the case. I think adding some resistance training (free weights, circuit, bands, whatever) is extremely important if you are trying to lose weight.

When you lift weights you are damaging muscle fibers which the body then needs to rebuild, that is what makes the muscle stronger. Well, not only do you burn calories when you are physically doing the work of lifting weights but that rebuilding is extremely calorie intensive. Cardio will give you more bang for the buck while you are actually doing the running, jogging, biking, swimming, or whatever but you stop burning calories much closer to when you stop as opposed to resistance training where you will burn calories for hours after you put down that last weight or get off of that last machine.

This highlights another falsehood many dieters believe, and that is that the scale is the great arbiter of success. Muscle weighs more than fat so building muscle while you are losing fat might make the scale more more slowly in the down direction but that really doesn't matter, you are still losing fat which is ultimately the goal. Turning 5 pounds of fat into 5 pounds of muscle will not only make you generally smaller but will also increase you basal metabolic rate which is the number of calories you consume just existing.

When I or the experts talk about a lifestyle change sometimes that is overly vague. What I and most of them mean is that your new lifestyle will include the following (as mine does now):

Doing some form of exercise every day or just about every day. This could mean a nightly walk/jog/run, biking someplace instead of taking the car, joining a gym, or hitting the community pool. Ideally you will do a couple of these on alternating days.

Scrutinizing the menu at a restaurant and going with a healthier choice the majority of the time even if something less healthy looks better.

Cooking more and making processed food less.

Changing how you shop. Maybe you buy fresh food every other day instead of packaged food twice a month.

Reading labels. This can't be stressed enough. It will make you notice portion size (something often overlooked) and see what you are putting in your body. If you don't recognize something in the ingredient list chances are you don't want it in your body.

Doing small things like parking further away or taking the stairs instead of the elevator.

Altering your leisuretime activities. Maybe not reading for 3 hours a day but reading for 2 hours and walking or hiking for 1.

My favorite, doing more and watching less. Instead of watching tennis on TV for example grab a friend and go play tennis.

Hopefully this is helpful information.

Definitely.

I'm tempted to add 'this post wins the thread' lol! Especially the resistance training stuff. Getting excited about getting stronger is probably the biggest thing that helps me maintain because everything else falls into place as a result. If I don't get enough sleep or eat right, I just won't be able to train effectively.

My current goal is to be able to do more pull ups that DH. :teeth:
 
Hi OP - I asked my doctor about diets like those and she almost killed me. :crazy2:

She told me to start South Beach, and I did. 8 pounds in 2 weeks, no sugar cravings or hunger. Healthy protiens, veggies, cheese, eggs, nuts. SouthBeach has a nice app to tell you what you can/can't eat. I know these are very *short term* results, but I'm learning how to live without/with less/with healthier carbs and it feels good.

Good luck to you!
 
You bring up another important point and that is muscle wasting. A very common misconception is that cardio is the only effective exercise for weightloss which is very much not the case. I think adding some resistance training (free weights, circuit, bands, whatever) is extremely important if you are trying to lose weight.

When you lift weights you are damaging muscle fibers which the body then needs to rebuild, that is what makes the muscle stronger. Well, not only do you burn calories when you are physically doing the work of lifting weights but that rebuilding is extremely calorie intensive. Cardio will give you more bang for the buck while you are actually doing the running, jogging, biking, swimming, or whatever but you stop burning calories much closer to when you stop as opposed to resistance training where you will burn calories for hours after you put down that last weight or get off of that last machine.

This highlights another falsehood many dieters believe, and that is that the scale is the great arbiter of success. Muscle weighs more than fat so building muscle while you are losing fat might make the scale more more slowly in the down direction but that really doesn't matter, you are still losing fat which is ultimately the goal. Turning 5 pounds of fat into 5 pounds of muscle will not only make you generally smaller but will also increase you basal metabolic rate which is the number of calories you consume just existing.

When I or the experts talk about a lifestyle change sometimes that is overly vague. What I and most of them mean is that your new lifestyle will include the following (as mine does now):

Doing some form of exercise every day or just about every day. This could mean a nightly walk/jog/run, biking someplace instead of taking the car, joining a gym, or hitting the community pool. Ideally you will do a couple of these on alternating days.

Scrutinizing the menu at a restaurant and going with a healthier choice the majority of the time even if something less healthy looks better.

Cooking more and making processed food less.

Changing how you shop. Maybe you buy fresh food every other day instead of packaged food twice a month.

Reading labels. This can't be stressed enough. It will make you notice portion size (something often overlooked) and see what you are putting in your body. If you don't recognize something in the ingredient list chances are you don't want it in your body.

Doing small things like parking further away or taking the stairs instead of the elevator.

Altering your leisuretime activities. Maybe not reading for 3 hours a day but reading for 2 hours and walking or hiking for 1.

My favorite, doing more and watching less. Instead of watching tennis on TV for example grab a friend and go play tennis.

Hopefully this is helpful information.

I agree with everything that Firedancer says here. I know that I am in the early stages of my weightloss story but since I have tried many things I can give you first hand advice. I started 18 months ago trying to lose weight. I had let myself get into terrible shape at 238 lbs (my excuses, and they are just that, I ignored myself while taking care of my family and ended up needing a total knee replacement which made exercise even more difficult). I am post menopausal and that does make weight loss even harder.

I am currently down 55 lbs to 183 lbs and it is the hardest thing I have ever done but I am still at it. I will lose 30-40 more lbs. I joined my local YMCA 18 months ago and paid one of their personal trainers to work with me on developing a weight and cardio plan that works with my inability to exercise on my bad knee. This is the best money I have ever spent. I only needed three sessions with the trainer. I had never done weights before in my entire life but I love what working with them has done for how I feel. I do weights for 30 minutes five mornings a week and follow that with one hour on a recumbent bike.

Now for the hard part - diet. I had to change the way I eat which for me means that I had to cut carbs. Just watching carbs I lost 25 lbs in 6 months and then I plateaued. I didn't lose anything else for 6 months so I tried the MediWeight Loss plan for four months. It did start me losing again but I don't think that I would advise it. The main things I got from them was that I needed to cut carbs even more, replacing processed foods with fresh and the biggest thing was that they made me write down everything you eat. I didn't like the B12 injections and could do without the all of the supplements. They also offer phentermine to suppress appetite if you want it but it made my head feel funny so I skipped that. And the cost was $80 per weekly visit and around $60 for a months supply of supplements.

So for now I am on my own. Still working out five days a week and attacking carbs because I have identified this as my biggest problem. I am using a great app called MyFitnessPal to record all food and activity. Instead of paying all of that money to MediWeightloss I hope that this app can keep accountable for the rest of my weightloss and maintenance.

Sorry for the long post but this weight battle is the focus of my life and I hope my experience helps.
 
Don't look for the easy way out, look for the right way out.

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You bring up another important point and that is muscle wasting. A very common misconception is that cardio is the only effective exercise for weightloss which is very much not the case. I think adding some resistance training (free weights, circuit, bands, whatever) is extremely important if you are trying to lose weight.

When you lift weights you are damaging muscle fibers which the body then needs to rebuild, that is what makes the muscle stronger. Well, not only do you burn calories when you are physically doing the work of lifting weights but that rebuilding is extremely calorie intensive. Cardio will give you more bang for the buck while you are actually doing the running, jogging, biking, swimming, or whatever but you stop burning calories much closer to when you stop as opposed to resistance training where you will burn calories for hours after you put down that last weight or get off of that last machine.

This highlights another falsehood many dieters believe, and that is that the scale is the great arbiter of success. Muscle weighs more than fat so building muscle while you are losing fat might make the scale move more slowly in the down direction but that really doesn't matter, you are still losing fat which is ultimately the goal. Turning 5 pounds of fat into 5 pounds of muscle will not only make you generally smaller but will also increase you basal metabolic rate which is the number of calories you consume just existing.

When I or the experts talk about a lifestyle change sometimes that is overly vague. What I and most of them mean is that your new lifestyle will include the following (as mine does now):

Doing some form of exercise every day or just about every day. This could mean a nightly walk/jog/run, biking someplace instead of taking the car, joining a gym, or hitting the community pool. Ideally you will do a couple of these on alternating days.

Scrutinizing the menu at a restaurant and going with a healthier choice the majority of the time even if something less healthy looks better.

Cooking more and making processed food less.

Changing how you shop. Maybe you buy fresh food every other day instead of packaged food twice a month.

Reading labels. This can't be stressed enough. It will make you notice portion size (something often overlooked) and see what you are putting in your body. If you don't recognize something in the ingredient list chances are you don't want it in your body.

Doing small things like parking further away or taking the stairs instead of the elevator.

Altering your leisuretime activities. Maybe not reading for 3 hours a day but reading for 2 hours and walking or hiking for 1.

My favorite, doing more and watching less. Instead of watching tennis on TV for example grab a friend and go play tennis.

Hopefully this is helpful information.

ITA!! I don't buy processed foods and try to eat a more plant based diet. I do healthy smoothies with lots of fresh veggies and fruit.

I have never been an overeater, but my weakness is sweets. Can't seem to say no to them, even after getting everything else right. I have been working out at the gym since November of last year and have not lost much weight. In fact I'm getting a bit discouraged. I don't step onto the scale very often (only 3 times since November) because it discourages me when I don't lose. But I can tell by my clothes that I'm not losing and it's hard to power through that. I will continue, though.

Good luck to you OP! I hope you find what works for you.:goodvibes::yes::
 
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ITA!! I don't buy processed foods and try to eat a more plant based diet. I do healthy smoothies with lots of fresh veggies and fruit.

I have never been an overeater, but my weakness is sweets. Can't seem to say no to them, even after getting everything else right. I have been working out at the gym since November of last year and have not lost much weight. In fact I'm getting a bit discouraged. I don't step onto the scale very often (only 3 times since November) because it discourages me when I don't lose. But I can tell by my clothes that I'm not losing and it's hard to power through that. I will continue, though.
I would encourage you to keep trying to eliminate the sweets. You sound a lot like me. I am diligently working out and plateaued (see my long post above) until I starting attacking carbs and that means sweets. It is so, so hard but I had to get rid of almost all refined carbs to start losing again. If you have a smartphone try MyFitnessPal to record everything you eat. Everything, even the sweets. You can keep it private but this will show you the damage those sweets are doing to your weightloss. With this app you can even scan the barcode on food products to quickly enter the nutritional and calorie numbers.
 


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