Anyone on the Dis work for the Dept. of Human Services?

donald&daisy

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I've applied for a position as a Family Services Worker. These are the people that investigate alleged cases of child abuse, neglect, etc. They also generally try to help the family with any services they might need and develop plans for future improvements and goals, among other things.

Anywho, I have an interview next Wednesday (yay) and was wondering if anyone had any advice? I will also take any general advice. I think I am qualified, if not over-qualified, but jobs are TOUGH to find, surprise right? I have J.D. and experience in mediating dependency-neglect situations. Thanks in advance!
 
No, but surely someone here does so I'll bump it for you.

You might change your thread title. I started reading this thinking it was about Disney's Hollywood Studios, and I was surprised to find that they had Family Service Workers there. It only took a few seconds to figure out what you were talking about, but maybe a thread title change would get the attention of those you are trying to ask. You also might get more replies on a weekday morning or afternoon.
 
In the interview you might be shown a picture of kids in the home with lots of stuff going on. Always point out the positive stuff first and then the negatives. For example, the TV is on so the home has electricity. Next, brush up on motivational interviewing. Good Luck!
 
Hi

I used for work for Dept health and human services as an advisor. I did food stamps,medicaid,tanf and such. I used to see 8 to 10 people a day each for an hour and it was so draining and too much for me to handle so after a year I left. Too much paperwork and so many sad stories and angry people who let it out on you since you represent the state.

I also have a friend who works as a family services worker straight out of college so she was not experienced in seeing all the details you will see everything regarding abuse and all. It was hearthwrenching to hear some stories and right now that department is under investigation due to so many cases and not many workers. She basically is no more the soft and sweet person I knew. She has been hardened with all the cases she has worked on. It takes a toll but since you have experience than it will not be as much of a toll as it was for my friend. The state benefits are great though.:love:
 

And here I thought you meant Disney's Hollywood Studios...

No, seriously, I did. :confused3;)
 
Have an open mind. Do NOT make assumptions and realize that some cases are false, some are the case of not knowing any better, lack of resources, etc. There will be some heartbreaking cases and it will change you forever. One thing that urked the you know what out of me, is when the judges would make outrageous demands and allow the most horrendous abuse because someone screamed parent...sigh. Once in a while, you will have a success story and it will make all the difference in the world. There is a saying that to have made one life breathe easier is the definition of success...

I pray for you to have strength, wisdom, discernment and peace. Best of Luck to you.
 
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i'm retired from social services. over the years i worked in child welfare, employment services and staff development. when i retired i was supervising social work staff-and sat on hiring panels.

if you can give me a little more info. on the job you're applying for (what are the m.q.'s-does it require an msw? what is the actual job description) i might be able to give you some suggestions/insight. also-does your state operate on a county agency basis or is everyone in dhs a state employee (can make a difference on how they might operate)? do you know if they use an automated case welfare system?
 
I burned out after 7 years and have absolutely no desire to ever go back to direct client services. I saw the absolute worst of mankind, and to be honest most of my clients were big fat liars!! The few that actually needed and wanted help did make a difference, but they were few and far in between. The only advice I can genuinely give you is to take advantage of all employee training that will help you keep your emotions under control. It is hard to do when a clients cockroaches are crawling all over you!! at the end of the day I would go home and say to myself that "I DID THE BEST FOR MY CLIENTS WHO ASKED FOR MY HELP!" and that is really all you can do! I am now a corporate trainer specializing in business english and I do use my former profession/career to highlight various situations, etc. One more thing, besides the lying clients, I also had to deal with a revolving door of moronic management!! What was I thinking when I choose Social Work as a major!!
 
tomthebarncat-you're right about the burn-out and the moronic managers.

when you walked through our child welfare units there were basicly 2 'types' of staff-the 3's or the 30's. that's to say it was either people who had been there less than 3 years and were just counting down the last installment payments on their student loans, or the ones who somehow managed to stay with it and were working toward the end of 30 years with the department. very little in-between.

we had a managment revolving door as well-but i think allot of that had to do with my county's attitude that 'any good manager can manage ANY kind of program':eek::eek::eek: sorry, but unless you've worked 'in the trenches' you have no freaking idea of what your staff is dealing with on a day to day basis and you sure can't begin to provide them with the support they absolutly need to do their jobs:sad2::sad2:
 
My professors in school made this profession sound so rewarding and helpful. I then learned very quickly that theory and reality are two different things and that obviously professors are teaching for a reason!! I am convinced that many of my professors never actually worked one case or spent one whole day in a county welfare office!! I spent 7 years working non-profit and leaving was like a painful divorce, one that was necessary and long overdue! I am glad I did it and will never go back to social work, I just cannot deal with the stress. This profession sucks the life out of you! and crosses over into your personal life, no matter how hard you try to leave it at work! To the OP good luck with whatever happens, but at least have a realistic idea of what you are really getting yourself into. It is also OK to walk away when it becomes a matter of self preservation!
 
tom-one of the (good) managers i had was given the opportunity to head up the msw program at a prominant california university. she JUMPED on the opportunity and one of the first things she did was re-work the program to require that social work majors started spending time in county offices EARLY on in their studies and that the professors had to incorporate the office time with the theory classes. there was allot of complaints from the long term professors but she wisely pointed out that it was far better for a social work major to find out early on that the job was or was'nt what they realy wanted to be doing vs. devoting years of time and money on an education they might find within days of taking on was in no way what they wanted.
 
Barkely, your former manager sounds like one of the few that actually cares! the world needs more people who actually want to make positive change. My social work degree from UMAB cost me 17,500 in actual loans and payback was in the low 30's. I can honestly say that if I had to do it all over again, I would have stuck to Occupational therapy, which was my first major. I used to refer to my job as the death and dying business!! As the clients were just going to die if you didn't give them their way! I provided this service all the while wearing Gucci loafers!! knowing the value of an education, hard work and the ability to have a good cry everyday after work!! I do not miss that at all and my strong desire to never go back makes me work harder as a corporate trainer!!
 
To be honest I don't intend for this to be a career. I do plan on practicing law, its just that the job market here, right now is saturated and there's hardly any movement. I thought this job would provide good exposure to another side of the legal system; in the future I hope to do mainly family law.

Here's the job's "typical functions":
Investigates suspected child abuse and neglect complaints by making on-site visits, securing background information, and interviewing parties involved. Discusses investigative findings and observations with supervisor and recommends the opening of protective services, foster care, or supportive services cases. Intervenes in crisis situations, removes the child from the home if the situation is life threatening, and arranges for temporary placement in foster homes, group homes, or treatment facilities. Develops a case plan to establish goals, objectives, tasks and time frames for all parties involved in case. Provides counseling and guidance to clients in defining their needs, interests, and courses of action and refers clients to other professionals, agencies, services, or community resources appropriate to clients' problems. Recruits and trains families, conducts home studies and family assessments to determine appropriate child placements, and visits clients and/or foster parents on a regular basis to monitor progress toward case objectives. Documents all case work activities and developments and prepares court reports for custody hearings and presents testimony when necessary. Performs other duties as assigned.

Also: The formal education equivalent of a bachelor's degree in social work, sociology, psychology or a related field; plus successful completion of agency core training.

At the state level they have already determined that I meet the minimum qualifications and then they forwarded my resume to the county office which then called me for an interview.
 
To be honest I don't intend for this to be a career. I do plan on practicing law, its just that the job market here, right now is saturated and there's hardly any movement. I thought this job would provide good exposure to another side of the legal system; in the future I hope to do mainly family law.

Here's the job's "typical functions":
Investigates suspected child abuse and neglect complaints by making on-site visits, securing background information, and interviewing parties involved. Discusses investigative findings and observations with supervisor and recommends the opening of protective services, foster care, or supportive services cases. Intervenes in crisis situations, removes the child from the home if the situation is life threatening, and arranges for temporary placement in foster homes, group homes, or treatment facilities. Develops a case plan to establish goals, objectives, tasks and time frames for all parties involved in case. Provides counseling and guidance to clients in defining their needs, interests, and courses of action and refers clients to other professionals, agencies, services, or community resources appropriate to clients' problems. Recruits and trains families, conducts home studies and family assessments to determine appropriate child placements, and visits clients and/or foster parents on a regular basis to monitor progress toward case objectives. Documents all case work activities and developments and prepares court reports for custody hearings and presents testimony when necessary. Performs other duties as assigned.

Also: The formal education equivalent of a bachelor's degree in social work, sociology, psychology or a related field; plus successful completion of agency core training.

At the state level they have already determined that I meet the minimum qualifications and then they forwarded my resume to the county office which then called me for an interview.

where are the licensing requirements, where are the credentials??? this scares me, anyone with the equivalent!!! anyway, going into clients homes, usually requires a police escort, and that in itself can become scary. I have done most of what you are about to do and I would be concerned about the work load because clearly they are not paying enought for licensed, credentialed , human service workers. IF you really need a job go for it, but I suspect that you are going to be incredibly stessed and overworked and completely underpaid.
 
my mother works for department of children's services as a case manager 3. that means that she supervises the people (cm1s and 2s) who go into houses, but she usually doesn't have a big case load herself (instead she manages everyone else's cases)

it is a hard, emotionally trying job. and some days you'll wonder why you even got out of bed. there's a lot of over time, because people don't beat their children on a 9-5 schedule. there will be calls that make you get up in the middle of the night and go to work, and you might not get back home until 6 or 7 in the morning.

its a hard job.
 
It has been a long while but I NEVER had a police escort. I went to homes ALONE.

The only time we call the cops or had a cop escort was when a child was removed. I had a ton of times I wished we did have police escorts or I wished I had a partner to go with me.
 
where are the licensing requirements, where are the credentials??? this scares me, anyone with the equivalent!!! anyway, going into clients homes, usually requires a police escort, and that in itself can become scary. I have done most of what you are about to do and I would be concerned about the work load because clearly they are not paying enought for licensed, credentialed , human service workers. IF you really need a job go for it, but I suspect that you are going to be incredibly stessed and overworked and completely underpaid.

it concerns me too because this type of job in the county i worked for required at bare minimum a full msw and licensing.

i'm wondering if this position is similar to one the county i worked for created as a cost saving measure. they basicly took allot of the clerical and administrative duties of the child welfare social work staff and bundled them together to create a kind of 'assistant' who was assigned to units of workers. the msw's did the nuts and bolts of the cases and would use the assistants as support to do the physical case documentation, data input, and preparation of reports and legal documents. this was later expanded to have the assistants do the shuttling of foster care kids to placements and appointments. it was rare that they ever were called on to actualy testify but it could be if they were involved in communicating information between the sw and the parents (like sending them multiple letters and communicating by phone repeated times a requirement for them to provide verification of something that they subsequently fail to do).

as for the involuntary removal of children-since it required that a person was violating the law (child welfare law re. neglect, abuse or endangerment) the police were always called in.

op-i'de suggest if possible you pull up the child welfare laws for your state. if you are familiar with reading law it could give you a feel for who is authorized to do what in your state and what kind of limitations someone in the kind of position you are interviewing for will have. this way you can speak to having some knowledge about knowing the importance of how your work actions will impact others.

since you have law training i think it would valuable to point out how you know the importance of keeping accurate and detailed records and case documentation since it becomes the legal record and can greatly impact the disposition of a child and families within the child welfare system.

since they will be giving training you can speak of your expeirences in a learning environment and weather you can quickly assimilate and disseminate information, AND how you can create and maintain resources for yourself (the laws and procedures are in a constant state of change so dss agencies will often train their staff that they can never entirely 'learn' everything, but have to learn how to access the appropriate information and resources).

talk about communication skills you have. we had laws on the books in the state i worked in that said all written communication had to be done at a certain educational level-and i'm not talking a high level. staff had to be able to take technical terms and make them (for lack of a better term) more 'user friendly' (think about taking the irs tax code and explaining it in an understandable way either in writing or verbaly to a junior highschool student). it was'nt about talking 'down' to anyone, it's just that in that state they were very aware of the average educational experience and comprehension levels of the clients they served so they wanted staff that could kind of assess what the comprehension level was and communicate appropriatly.

i'll pass on 3 questions that we incorporated in some form for all staff who had front line client contact-

1. you come into work and your clerk tells you a client dropped in and is in the waiting room, you have 4 phone messages, and a client is waiting on hold. you also have a message that your supervisor wants to see you. what do you do?

(the key to this one is seeing how someone prioritizes and if they reccognize that the first priority is speaking to their supervisor if only to touch bases and find out if they need to speak with them before they see/speak to any clients. reason being is the supervisor could have information that could impact any of the contact with the clients).

2. your client requests a service/procedure/resource that your agency legaly provides but you have a personal, moral or ethical belief against (often in the interview it would be worded where it was a minor and it involved an abortion) what do you do?

(key to this one is to see if candidate reccognizes that they have to put their own personal opinions and beliefs aside and administer the programs in accordance with the law).

3. (this one seems stupid but it was very popular)-when you arrive at the interview you sign in and are told by the secretary or whomever greets you that the job description is posted (and they point to it tacked to the wall or taped onto a desk)-you are told to review it and then take a seat to wait for your interview.

(key to this-READ the whole freaking job description even if you've already read it a hundred times because in the course of the interview there will be a question that asks for some kind of information from that sheet of paper. it might be for you to recite the job duties or tell them what the educational requirements/substitutions are. it might be to tell them what the salary range is. this question is specifically done to see if an applicant can follow instructions-and often that they can follow instructions from a person that they may presume that they will, if hired- hold a higher ranking position than).


good luck with your interview you may find out that there are other opportunites within dss that you realy enjoy and can use your education with-i had coworkers who had their law degrees and went into doing program analysis, appeals and fair hearings administration as well as hiring into the legal part of the house (we had special counsel on staff who because they had experience in child welfare they tremendous assetts to both staff and the public we served).
 

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