Anyone ever try the Dr. Ornish Diet.

[TnRobin]

It appears to be the Anti-Atkins diet. My sister is reading upon it and it sounds pretty neat.

Similarities to Atkins - eliminate simple carbohydrates and sugar - eat lots of food.

Items totally agains Atkins - Eat plenty of Complex carbohydrates (whole wheat and such) and limit fat.

I may try to structure my efforts around this one. Anyone try it or have an opinon??

 

[nativetxn]

I've never tried it. Because of Wilgus's diabetes he couldn't stay well and eat complex carbohydrates or not many.

Just so you find a plan that works for you is all that matters Robin. I'm curious to know how well this works for you, if you decide to try this, so keep us posted?

 

[Beanie]

I have never heard of this Robin, but sounds interesting! Please let us know the results if you do try this one!

 

[Regina]

My doctor recommended the Ornish diet to me awhile ago. I bought the book, and that was about all that I did.

I decided to do Atkins because DH prefers it and it's easier to follow one diet in the household.

Unfortunately, I'm having the same problems with Atkins that I did the last time that I tried it. I am losing weight, but it's not worth it when I feel so icky.

I'm probably going to switch plans. I'll have to dig out ole' Dean Ornish's book to see if it will be better for me.

 

[TnRobin]

All Right Regina - we can be Ornish girls together.

 

[zakatak]

I think Dr. Ornish is onto something big. One reason I fear Atkins, is that it gives people the "ok" to eat horrid food (bacon, eggs, cheese, red meat, sour cream) and says a banana is BAD? Now, you can flame away if you like, BUT, isn't KETOSIS a sign of a kidney problem? I just worry that nobody knows the LONG TERM effect of this type of eating (Atkins), whereas people (doctors) DO know the long term effect of eating Dr. Ornish's way...

Well, probably stepped over my boundaries... sorry. Just honestly scared for all the aktins buffs.

Karen

http://www.wellnesstoday.com/january/ornishdean.htm

http://atkinsdietalert.org/physician.html

 

[DixieDreamer]

zakatak - you are confusing ketoacidosis with ketosis. There is a difference.

The body uses two fuels for energy: fat and glucose (blood sugar). Carbohydrates break down in the body as glucose. So when you cut back on carbs, you effectively take away most of one of the body's fuels and the body is turns to fat burning, the metabolic process called lipolysis and the secondary process of ketosis. So long as you have extra body fat, ketosis is safe and natural—and it’s the secret weapon of weight loss. A person in ketosis is getting energy from burning ketones, which are carbon fragments that are created by the burning of the body's fat stores.

There is nothing harmful, abnormal or dangerous about ketosis. Some of the confusion comes from the word ketoacidosis, which is completely different from ketosis. Ketoacidosis is a potentially dangerous condition seen in Type I diabetics—people who cannot produce insulin, when their blood sugar levels are out of control—alcoholics and people in a severe state of starvation. Research shows that ketosis does not cause adverse effects to the heart, kidneys, liver or blood cell functions. Nor is bone health compromised.

If you are more comfortable on a high carb/ low fat diet... then that is what you should do.

For me it is low carb. I have done a tremendous amount of research on this issue and am firmly convinced that the low fat/high carb dogma is exactly the reason why our nation continues to get incredibly more obese and why our cholesterol levels are going up and up.

You must have missed my recent post on my cholesterol number improvements. I have reduced my total cholesterol by 61 points (yes that is right!) and my triglycerides by 62 points. Now that is after years of very diligently following low fat/high carb diets that would help me lose a little weight, but my cholesterol levels kept climbing and I was literally so hungry all the time that I was ready to gnaw my leg off by mid morning (after a "healthy" breakfast of raisin bran with skim milk).

So please don't worry on my account. I could worry about those that choose high carb - but it is their choice.