Anyone else switching over to Kerry?

I am currently taking an Honors American History class, which I also took in eighth grade. :)

I took World Themes last year, which was a course about imperialism. I think it caused me to become more critical of the United States' actions in Iraq. I also studied World War II and Hitler while taking the course.

So, clearly History is still being taught, although my high school is one of the best in the country.. this could have something to do with its being taught; I'm not sure.

I should have included in my previous post that I did not believe Bush's and Hitler's religous beliefs to be the same, but rather, I was simply arguing that both were firm believers in Christianity. And despite whether his religious beliefs correlate with Bush's, this does not contradict my argument that neither should require respect.

But Kendra-- thank you for teaching me something new ;)

mariamouse
 
I'm a history major. Hoping to become a history teacher on my way to pursuing further goals.

I'm not sure of the official state laws in the 2 states of interest to me about needing a degree in the area you want to teach, because it's not relevant for me as I am getting a degree in what I teach. So I won't comment on that. I do know without a doubt you need to pass a tough certification test in the area you hope to teach.

American history is definitely taught in the school systems in my area. 2 years worth in my high school. Yearly in my elementary school (My school was K-8), as well as the schools my siblings, my friends, and my friends' children attend. The same is also required of World History.

Western Civ is the study/history of the Western world. I have taken it in HS and in college. It focuses on history and religions and is taught in 2 parts here. From Sumeria to the discovery of the new world in part 1. From the exploration of the new world to the present time in part 2

I was also fortunate that my Father fostered a love of history in me and I was able to supplement what I learned in school with what I learned about historical figures at home.
 
i agree with kendra17. our school system is the same. they offer 6 weeks in american history only and no world history. and they changed the curriculim without talking to the parents first so there was some outcry.

a half semester or sharing a semester with a western cultur or civilization class minimizes all that american history is.

i read the reviews of the diane ravich book and thought the reviews were good. she condemns both the right and left for this educational change
 

Peachgirl - I was just curious because I was hoping you weren't at school posting. Sorry to hear you are sick - I don't need details.

I think you are getting a little defensive - but I think you brought it on yourself. You have been a little mean to some of the posters.
 
Originally posted by Jennifer S
Peachgirl - I was just curious because I was hoping you weren't at school posting. Sorry to hear you are sick - I don't need details.

I think you are getting a little defensive - but I think you brought it on yourself. You have been a little mean to some of the posters.


Curious or not, what I do in real life is none of your business, but I'm glad you're satisfied with the answers.

As to your opinions on my posting, how mean or defensive I am...you're certainly entitled to hold any opinion you choose.

Btw, do you post at work? When do you post? Are you violating any rules when you post? Do you ignore your family in order to post more?

Just curious, I'm hoping that you aren't ignoring your personal and professional obligations.....
:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by MUFFYCAT
I know everyone makes fun of Bush with his speaking and gestures, but I can't see Herman Munster being our President.
I could picture him addressing the oval office with Grandpa and Eddie running around.

Well yes, because obviously what a person looks like is right up there in the scheme of importance on a par with what comes out of a person's mouth.
 
Originally posted by Jennifer S
I still can't get over all the disrespect for the President of our Nation. That's real nice.


I respect only those who earn my respect. I don't believe blindly in anything or anybody. I don't care if you are the president, a doctor, a teacher, or a parent...if you are a violent and dishonest bigot, I will not respect you.
 
peachgirl - that's fair - since you asked - I am a stay at home mom and I post in between taking kids to school, laundry, making meals, volunteering at school, working as Coordinator of our local moms club, doing playdates with my son, etc . I could go on all day. Currently I am having back problems so I have been taking it a little easier today.

So, no I don't post at work, ignore my family or violate any rules. The only reason I chimed in was because I felt you were being a little mean. Maybe because you don't feel well. I HONESTLY hope you feel better and tomorrow is a brighter day for you.:p
 
Dakota_Lynn - if you were at the White House (I know it's a stretch but bear with me) and had to address the President how would you address him?
 
Originally posted by Jennifer S
I still can't get over all the disrespect for the President of our Nation. That's real nice.

No matter who you vote for or who wins they both deserve respect.

If you are looking for respect, political posts on the DIS
are a bad place to look. I give respect to those who by
their actions, deserve it. Titles do not impress me.

Oh and Jennifer-now YOU are being "a little mean"
Around here, ya better wear a flak jacket if you came
to play.
 
The only reason I chimed in was because I felt you were being a little mean...Maybe because you don't feel well..

I just saw your post number and see you haven't been around all that long.

In that case, you really don't know past history, but trust me, my tone has nothing to do with my health.

At any rate, you're entitled to think whatever you want.
 
If Kerry is elected president the unemployment rate will go down for sure. Think of all the new secret service agents hired by the federal government to provide security for Ms. Heinz-Kerry's five or so mansions.
 
Originally posted by Kendra17
While I have read several books on the subject, as a teacher, you must know that there is not a nationally mandated curriculum. Many schools across the country have dropped US History or World History in favor of Western Civilization and World Cultures.

Books such as Peter Wood's Diversity: The Invention of a Concept and Diane Ravitch's The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict what Students Learn both discuss this at length.

Also, as a teacher, you must know that teachers are often teaching subjects they are not knowledgeable about. Years ago, education in History was required to teach history. Now, education in education is required to teach history. So, often, when it is "taught" (and I use this term loosely) it is not taught WELL, and the children to not LEARN it.


Yet another reason for DW and I to homeschool our children.
 
Originally posted by Kendra17
It is a fact that many schools have replaced "History" with "Culture" and "Civilization" classes. This is not the same thing as teaching history. If your school is teaching American History, then more power to them. The books I posted are fully sourced and prove that it is not this poster that is incorrect.



Your first statement is troublesome and I would agree with you if the truth wasn't that so many students were being pushed through without learning what they needed to learn. When teachers lament this fact in my kids' school system, I empathize. But, on the whole, accountability is needed and the kids, if they are taught, if they learn to enjoy learning, if they learn they can succeed, will develop a love of learning that will carry with them throughout their lives.



From National Review (http://www.aei.org/news/filter.all,newsID.21291/news_detail.asp):






It's amazing how many people don't know this. The funding is incredibly high. But it gets fouled up once it reaches the hands at the local level. I posted something awhile back about a large number of states that were prompted by the US education department that they still had money, and I mean large quantities of cash, to spend or they would not get the same allocation in their budget next time around. Some of this money was from allocations over a year ago.

So the argument that we don't spend enough on education is hollow. It's the leadership in education at the state and local levels that abuses, misuses and wastes the funding.

Goody! Found the link!

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:...20040629_981.html+education+funds+spend&hl=en

U.S. Tells States to Spend School Funds
Federal Government Telling States to Make Plans to Spend Education Money or Face Losing It

The Associated Press



WASHINGTON June 29, 2004 — States are getting a reminder from the federal government: Make plans quickly to spend more than $2 billion in education money or be ready to lose it.
The Education Department has found that all the states, the District of Columbia and eight territories have high cash balances left from 2002, including money meant for poor children, disabled students and limited-English learners.





That money must be obligated not spent, but at least legally earmarked toward a specific expense by Sept. 30, which is 27 months after it was released to states.

States then have two final years to spend the money. Ultimately, school money not committed or spent returns to the federal treasury, as happened with $155 million last year.

Todd Jones, a department budget official, acknowledged that the agency does not know how much of the 2002 money already has been obligated because states don't report that level of detail. Also, he said it would make sense if some of the dollars have not been committed, such as money for summer reading expenses that have yet to occur.

The department's move comes as an election-year fight grows over whether states and schools have enough money to do what's demanded of them under new federal law. House Republicans said Tuesday that states have $16.8 billion in unspent school money dating from the former Clinton administration, a figure that the Education Department confirmed but state school officials called misleading without context about how school financing works.

GOP leaders are expanding an argument made this year by the department, the White House and congressional Republicans: that schools are flush with federal money. It's meant to counter the claim that President Bush, who championed a law demanding greater improvement in all schools, has not come close to keeping his promise to pay for changes the law demands.

"We've literally flooded the system with cash, and it's time to start focusing on improving student achievement instead," said Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, chairman of the House Education and the Workforce Committee.

The Education Department has issued letters to chief state school officers, reminding them of what appear to be substantial cash balances with just three months before the September deadline.

More than $2.1 billion is unspent from 2002, or about 8 percent of the money allocated for five broad areas, including special education and adult education. The department's letters to states identified only those cash balances that seemed particularly high.

The department issued its reminder, Jones said, to ensure that states don't miss their chances to use the money. It's part of a broader effort this year to help states account for all the federal money available and to draw it down more quickly.

"The states are telling us that they're not seeing this as a red flag at all," Jordan Cross, lobbyist for the Council of Chief State School Officers, said after leaders there reviewed the numbers with budget and top education executives from at least 10 states. "They expect, by September, that almost all of that money will be obligated."

Patty Sullivan, the council's deputy executive director, added: "To the department's credit, they gave us a heads-up on this. I don't think this is a `gotcha' activity. I think they really are trying to help."

Still, Sullivan said, the implication from the House education committee leadership that states "have a closet full of money" is misleading. School officials say there are several legitimate reasons why money is in the bank, from the government's own 27-month timeline for incurring expenses to federal delays in approving the programs that the money is meant for.

States have $16.8 billion in unspent school money, most of it from 2003, but $527 million from the final two budgets under Bill Clinton, according to the GOP-led education committee. The percentage of unspent money keeps growing yearly, and that's just as billions of 2004 dollars will be released this week, said committee spokesman Josh Holly.
 
Originally posted by treesinger
Yet another reason for DW and I to homeschool our children.

I wanted to add that I was talking to some other parents last night. One woman who teaches in a neighboring school system told me that yes, American History is offered--but as an elective. So, I should have mentioned this before, since it's the absence of American History as a REQUIRED subject that is also an issue, I think.
 
all i have to say is i'm glad i don't like in tennessee then, because where i live now and where i grew up, american history is definitely part of the required curriculum.
 


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