Anyone else here really disliking their current weather?

For those of you who have extreme cold how do you keep warm and what extra precautions do you have to take to make sure pipes don't burst and cars will start? I was wondering about that this morning when I saw the weather forecast for the Plains.

Today the windchill was about MINUS 27 F. We have gotten about 37 inches of snow so far since late October, twice our normal for this time of year [I am hoping this is NOT an indicator of the rest of the winter.... I have survived a 2-inches-short-of-the-alltime-record snow year here and would really prefer not to go there again... the snow in our front yard was piled *above my head* that winter - makes it hard to clear the driveway!!).

Dress in layers and have appropriate cold weather gear (parka, boots, hat/gloves/scarf). You can always add more layers. In this regard I prefer cold to heat -- I can always add layers, but there is only so much one can take off and be considered decent and presentable !

Outdoor faucets are turned off before or at first frost and drained of their water (there is a purpose-designed shutoff in the basement that helpd with this); we then cover ours with an insulating cover made for that purpose (Home Depot etc sells them).

Indoor pipes are not a problem because the house is designed for it (in terms of pipe location) and well-insulated (required by building code, and then our as many others are insulated to above code). The only time I would worry about indoor pipes freezing is if I was going to be away from the house for a long period and the risk would be failure of the furnace causing an interior temp drop into freezing temps (which would take multiple days to happen.... we have had power failures that have lasted >24 hours and the indoor temp only dropped a couple degrees in the middle of winter). This is in sharp contrast to when I lived in Texas -- insulation in the right places was apparently next to non-existant and indoor pipe freezing was a serious risk once it went below 40 F -- our apartment complexes always had signs reminding us to let the taps drip during freezing temps. having lived all my life in the North, that just made no sense to me. But it is how the buildings are built there. Not at all a problem up here.

Well-maintained cars for the most part start just fine till around -40 then they sometimes get unhappy. The oil they use is formulated for the weather here and is a different "weight" than the oil you would use in say Texas. Likewise the gasoline has a "winter formula" that is different than summer. Many people here have engine block heaters in their car, which lets them plug the block eater in (e.g. overnight) to keep the engine block warm so it starts properly. Only needed when it is really cold, but here if you park your car outside at night it is pretty much essential in the worst of winter. When I first moved here I lived in an apartment and each assigned parking spot in the lot had a pole with a plug in it to plug in your block heater in the winter. I don't have a block heater in my current car, and we have a garage that is integral into the house -- the coldest it gets inside the garage overnight is about 40 degrees on really cold days like today. In the dead of winter when the outside temp itself is -40 or below, parking the car for an 8 hour day at work sometimes means it doesn't like starting at the end of the day. It usually will, but you may have to try a couple times. Some people, especially if they have an older car, will go out at lunch and breaks and run their car for a few minutes so it doesn't get/stay as cold. New cars here often are sold with "winter" packages included, which are some additional modifications to help the car survive winter. If you go to some parts of the country that are even colder for longer than here you will often find engine block heater plugs at businesses and workplaces.

Some people have remote starters for their cars. I have one. when it was working properly, I could stand across the parking lot and turn on the car -- so it would start heating up and melting the snow on the windows. One of my co-workers can stand at the office window and remote start his car far away in the parking lot. Some manufacturers have remote starters as an option, some don't or don't for all models. But there are plenty of after market remote starters.

Also, of course, lots of people here get proper winter tires for our cars. So we have all season tires for the rest of the year, and then winters for winter. My rule is winters go on by or shortly after hallowe'en and then they stay on until late April (easter-ish if it is in late April) or longer if the weather warrants it. Studded tires are not allowed here. Winter tires are not mandatory (they are elsewhere), but are highly recommended: below about 45 F the rubber in all seasons becomes too hard and does not grip the road properly; winter tires have mushier rubber that grip much better in cold temps even if there is no snow on the ground. Much safer. I have my winters on their own rims (less expensive black steele rims, not the expensive aluminum fancy rims the car came with that the all seasons are on) and for a fee the car dealership will store the off-season tires [we don't have room in our garage for them].

SW
 
Ooooh - thunder snow is the best!! So dramatic! :hyper:

Do you know what a "block heater" is? All vehicles sold in Canada come equipped with this device - you plug your car into an electrical outlet (no, they are NOT electric cars) and the heater keeps the battery from failing. In truly extreme conditions one may also need to have a remote-starter programmed to run on intervals to keep the oil from "jelling". Or, you know, we park in our garages! :laughing:

Actually, block heaters are not included in all vehicles sold in Canada. For my Mazda 3 it was an optional accessory, cost in the $150-$300 range (>9 years ago so I forget the exact $). It is possible they are included by some manufacturers (likely part as their "if it is sold in canada it comes with a winter package" package), or in some areas it may be required, but it is not a universal Canadian requirement.

This of course is in contrast to the Saturn I had bought in Texas a couple years before moving back to Canada. Just before the move I asked the Texas dealership if they could install an engine block heater in it and they had no idea at all what I was even talking about; I had to wait until I arrived in Canada to get it installed at a dealership here. :-)

SW
 
Well-maintained cars for the most part start just fine till around -40 then they sometimes get unhappy. The oil they use is formulated for the weather here and is a different "weight" than the oil you would use in say Texas. Likewise the gasoline has a "winter formula" that is different than summer. Many people here have engine block heaters in their car, which lets them plug the block eater in (e.g. overnight) to keep the engine block warm so it starts properly. Only needed when it is really cold, but here if you park your car outside at night it is pretty much essential in the worst of winter. When I first moved here I lived in an apartment and each assigned parking spot in the lot had a pole with a plug in it to plug in your block heater in the winter. I don't have a block heater in my current car, and we have a garage that is integral into the house -- the coldest it gets inside the garage overnight is about 40 degrees on really cold days like today. In the dead of winter when the outside temp itself is -40 or below, parking the car for an 8 hour day at work sometimes means it doesn't like starting at the end of the day. It usually will, but you may have to try a couple times. Some people, especially if they have an older car, will go out at lunch and breaks and run their car for a few minutes so it doesn't get/stay as cold. New cars here often are sold with "winter" packages included, which are some additional modifications to help the car survive winter. If you go to some parts of the country that are even colder for longer than here you will often find engine block heater plugs at businesses and workplaces.

Some people have remote starters for their cars. I have one. when it was working properly, I could stand across the parking lot and turn on the car -- so it would start heating up and melting the snow on the windows. One of my co-workers can stand at the office window and remote start his car far away in the parking lot. Some manufacturers have remote starters as an option, some don't or don't for all models. But there are plenty of after market remote starters.

Also, of course, lots of people here get proper winter tires for our cars. So we have all season tires for the rest of the year, and then winters for winter. My rule is winters go on by or shortly after hallowe'en and then they stay on until late April (easter-ish if it is in late April) or longer if the weather warrants it. Studded tires are not allowed here. Winter tires are not mandatory (they are elsewhere), but are highly recommended: below about 45 F the rubber in all seasons becomes too hard and does not grip the road properly; winter tires have mushier rubber that grip much better in cold temps even if there is no snow on the ground. Much safer. I have my winters on their own rims (less expensive black steele rims, not the expensive aluminum fancy rims the car came with that the all seasons are on) and for a fee the car dealership will store the off-season tires [we don't have room in our garage for them].

SW

The motor oil that works well for starting in freezing temps actually works well for Texas. I know that when 0W-20 oils started becoming recommended year-round, some were worried about high temperatures. However, what's most important for hot weather is that the cooling system is working well.

I've heard that block heaters really only need a few hours, and a lot of power utilities in cold-climates will even give timers to avoid wasting power. The public block heater plugs I've heard of often have automatic timers that modify their timing based on ambient temperature.

As for winter tires, I understand that Quebec may be the only place where proper winter tires (with the RMA snowflake symbol) are mandated for certain times of the year. However, I think they do have an exception for cars registered outside of Quebec. Here in California, there's chain requirements that can be bypassed with all-season tires and all-wheel/4-wheel drive.
 
The motor oil that works well for starting in freezing temps actually works well for Texas. I know that when 0W-20 oils started becoming recommended year-round, some were worried about high temperatures. However, what's most important for hot weather is that the cooling system is working well.

I've heard that block heaters really only need a few hours, and a lot of power utilities in cold-climates will even give timers to avoid wasting power. The public block heater plugs I've heard of often have automatic timers that modify their timing based on ambient temperature.

As for winter tires, I understand that Quebec may be the only place where proper winter tires (with the RMA snowflake symbol) are mandated for certain times of the year. However, I think they do have an exception for cars registered outside of Quebec. Here in California, there's chain requirements that can be bypassed with all-season tires and all-wheel/4-wheel drive.

Yes, block heaters only need a few hours before starting (usually). However, it is not uncommon that a vehicle would be plugged in overnight for the whole night -- I did when I lived in an apartment here with outdoor parking. No timer and I was not about to go out in the middle of the night to plug it in.

As I discovered on a very recent trip to BC, BC also has a "winter tire" requirement for most of the province -- except they allow all season "M&S" tires in addition to the snowflake symbol tires; there are chain requirements for some of the mountain passes. I think you may be correct about Quebec being the only province requiring actual winter tires with the snowflake symbol (Dec 15-March 15), and yes there is an exemption of out of province registered vehicles ( https://saaq.gouv.qc.ca/en/road-safety/behaviours/adapting-your-driving/winter-driving/ ).

SW
 

-42C with the wind chill last night. It's cold, but I don't hate it. It's just part of winter.

We've just had 2 weeks of that. I didn't particularly enjoy it but I preferred it to the -6 we had yesterday that brought EVERYONE out on the ski hill !!
The last 2 weekends were practically deserted so we had so much fun - with several hot chocolate breaks obviously!
 
Sure. However, there are different ways to handle cold weather starts.

There is some argument about whether or not block heaters save money compared to the additional fuel used to warm up and/or inefficiency of driving a cold engine. I guess the costs may not be that much of a concern when using power provided as a courtesy at a parking lot. Aren't most of these timed anyways? It would make more sense just to power the heater for a couple of hours before expecting to drive.

LOL you really are arguing about winter driving with Canadians who regularly have temps hovering around -30C. Please, step away.
 
Yes, block heaters only need a few hours before starting (usually). However, it is not uncommon that a vehicle would be plugged in overnight for the whole night -- I did when I lived in an apartment here with outdoor parking. No timer and I was not about to go out in the middle of the night to plug it in.

As I discovered on a very recent trip to BC, BC also has a "winter tire" requirement for most of the province -- except they allow all season "M&S" tires in addition to the snowflake symbol tires; there are chain requirements for some of the mountain passes. I think you may be correct about Quebec being the only province requiring actual winter tires with the snowflake symbol (Dec 15-March 15), and yes there is an exemption of out of province registered vehicles ( https://saaq.gouv.qc.ca/en/road-safety/behaviours/adapting-your-driving/winter-driving/ ).

SW

My dad had a block heater installed in his diesel car. I don't think he ever used it, but it was installed by the dealer for free. Something about keeping the block warm to keep the fuel from gelling at colder temperatures.

The worst winter driving conditions are actually when it's right around freezing. That's when there's black ice and melting snow or rain turning to ice. I've dealt with those conditions, along with white out snow. Nothing quite like learning by plowing into a snowbank, although it sure was better than learning by hitting a tree or car. Ever saw the Portland, Oregon winter driving video from 2007? Some people were turning driving into pinball. Especially one notorious Volvo driver who tried to power his way out of poor traction.


The M+S tire requirements are actually pretty weak. That means at least all-season tires certified by the manufacturer to meet "mud and snow" requirements through a certain amount of tread to void ratio. California has a series of conditions from R1 to R3, but they're only enforced on certain mountain passes. None of the winter driving rules treat real winter tires any differently than all-season tires, since all tires with the M+S label are considered "snow-tread tires". The last time I drove my wife's FWD car to Tahoe, I thought about getting chains on the way over, but someone shopping at the store talked me out of it. He said he drove that road often, and there was no way it would need chains that day. It was also a store with signs saying that all tire chain sales were final. I ended up buying a set of chains during that trip, but it was from a national auto parts store that allowed refunds if they were unused.

We do have this one strange winter driving rule. Tire studs are allowed anywhere in California between November to April. Installed chains have to be removed at the end of a road segment with chain conditions.
 
We hit 71F today and are expecting 76F tomorrow. What's not to like?
 
We hit 71F today and are expecting 76F tomorrow. What's not to like?

Don't you have to pay the piper in the summer?

Back in 2013 we went to Vegas around Thanksgiving when there was a crazy cold spell. During that trip we warmed up by going to Death Valley where it was 75 deg F. Of course I've also been there during the summer when it was 125 deg F.
 
Don't you have to pay the piper in the summer?

Back in 2013 we went to Vegas around Thanksgiving when there was a crazy cold spell. During that trip we warmed up by going to Death Valley where it was 75 deg F. Of course I've also been there during the summer when it was 125 deg F.

Oh yeah, our nice winters are our reward for tolerating the brutal summers.
 
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Oh yeah, our nice winters are our reward for tolerating the brutal summers.

I'm from a place that doesn't typically get temperature extremes, and I am feeling the cold. I live in an old house that's poorly insulated, and the gas bills skyrocket if we turn up the heat. Maybe we'll eventually gut the house and install insulation. I don't just want to do that to add insulation, but I'd like a more modern electrical system (most of our outlets aren't 3-prong and we have a fuse box) and would like to replace the old pipes.

My parents own a house almost as old, but they built an addition that needed to be built to newer code. They didn't add insulation to the older part since they didn't have to. Those parts of the house get really cold since my parents are cheap and don't turn up the heat. The addition stays reasonably warm, even without any heat. I was there when it was being built, and they stuffed fiberglass in the roof and in the walls.
 
Anyone else here really disliking their current weather?
All day, everyday.
 
@Starwind Thank you so much for all of the information! I can't fathom having the kind of cold that you all are experiencing right now. I do like winter and prefer being cold to being hot but when the temperature hovers around zero or dips below it, no thank you! When visiting my mom in New Hampshire in the winter time I am always amazed by how different the cold there is compared to the cold here, it's a much drier cold where she lives as opposed to here.
 

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