Anyone else agree????

[itchin2go]

OK, I wasn't going to jump in on this one, but I have to say that while I am not here to defend the OP 100% because I don't feel that ANYONE is ENTITLED to a discount, the above post is absolutely ludicrous in the context of this discussion. Are you actually comparing a person who cuts down trees with a person who puts their life on the line for strangers every time they put on the uniform? Just because more tree trimmers die while doing their jobs doesn't make their job a noble one. A structural metal worker has a greater chance of dying than a firefighter? OK. Who cares? I respect a firefighter more because he runs into a burning building to save a complete stranger. Not to make money. Not to get accolades. To save lives. An electrical power installer may have a better chance of dying than a police officer, but, to be frank, I don't give a rat's behind about an electrical power installer unless there's one in my family. But when I see a police officer or firefighter, I feel a helluvalot safer being in their presence.

Umm - I'm pretty sure tree trimmers and electrical workers don't do it for the accolades.

 

[BlovesC]

There are pretty dramatic, broad generalizations being made in this thread, aren't there? I guess it comes down to everyone's personal superheroes. For some it's cops, for some teachers, for others (me) it's nurses. Let's all appreciate those who have helped us and touched our lives on a personal level every single day, rather than wait for Disney to do it.

 

[BlovesC]

Umm - I'm pretty sure tree trimmers and electrical workers don't do it for the accolades.

And I'm sure there are few ways in which they can abuse their power over the rest of us, either.

 

[CFioren317]

Please feel free to reread my post that you quoted. I made no comparisons. I quoted some statistics. Throughout this thread people have asked why teachers and other professions don't get more Disney discounts, and specifically, as the poster that I quoted, why those who put their life on the line don't get more discounts. "Put their life on the line." Not how they do that or how many people they protect, but those that put their lives on the line. The stats I quoted are dangerous jobs of people put their lives on the line. Period. How does one determine what job should get the "most respect" therefore the "most discounts" at Disney. The police officer or the tree trimmer? Both dangerous in different ways, both deserving of respect. I'm sorry that you feel that certain jobs and the people that do these jobs are unworthy of respect. As another poster said, the amount of respect for a job should not be judged by a $40 Disney discount.

I don't believe ANYONE is ENTITLED to a discount, so I'm with you there. I did read the entire post, and only commented when I saw you bring tree trimmers and electricians into the mix...I certainly didn't mean to put words in your mouth, but those two aren't civil servants and they certainly wouldn't be on my top 10 list of heroes. They do their job for the money they earn and that is all. There is no nobility to fixing someone's electric or cutting down someone's tree. However, there is ALOT of nobility in responding to a 911 call at 2:30 am.

And it has ZERO to do with respect...I respect a tree trimmer because I am afraid of heights and would NEVER do what they do. But their job isn't noble, and it has never been called a civil service. Life threatening does NOT equal noble...at least in my eyes.

 

[marie1203]

The point I was trying to make is that police, firefighters, and emt basicly do about the same job that the majority of the military do without traveling away from home. They put their lives on the line every day.

My DH is military and we have many friends that have got out and now are police, swat, firefighters, EMT and cops and they all say that the military was a harder job and it was a lot more sacrifice. And as you say that very small difference is a huge one (military do without traveling away from home). Doing deployments is very hard on a family. Military miss holidays, seeing their kids being born, first days of schools, birthdays, anniversaries, etc. Imagine having to put your life on the line being worried that your little kid is in the hospital and you haven't been able to see her or comfort her for even a minute. Not only that but when DH is home he works way more than just 40 hours a week and there is weeks at the time he works every day and we don't get that time back. I respect law enforcement and firefighters. Just because we are military we don't feel entitled to a discount, my husband hates any type of recognition. We appreciate any discount that they give us but if they didn't give us a discount we don't feel that is because of lack of respect. We are going to disney the 3rd time this year and there have been times when the discount they are offering is better than the military discount and is the discount that is offer to everyone.

 

[CFioren317]

My DH is military and we have many friends that have got out and now are police, swat, firefighters, EMT and cops and they all say that the military was a harder job and it was a lot more sacrifice. And as you say that very small difference is a huge one (military do without traveling away from home). Doing deployments is very hard on a family. Military miss holidays, seeing their kids being born, first days of schools, birthdays, anniversaries, etc. Imagine having to put your life on the line being worried that your little kid is in the hospital and you haven't been able to see her or comfort her for even a minute. Not only that but when DH is home he works way more than just 40 hours a week and there is weeks at the time he works every day and we don't get that time back. I respect law enforcement and firefighters. Just because we are military we don't feel entitled to a discount, my husband hates any type of recognition. We appreciate any discount that they give us but if they didn't give us a discount we don't feel that is because of lack of respect. We are going to Disney the 3rd time this year and there have been times when the discount they are offering is better than the military discount and is the discount that is offer to everyone.

 

[MissyDVC]

My DH is military and we have many friends that have got out and now are police, swat, firefighters, EMT and cops and they all say that the military was a harder job and it was a lot more sacrifice. And as you say that very small difference is a huge one (military do without traveling away from home). Doing deployments is very hard on a family. Military miss holidays, seeing their kids being born, first days of schools, birthdays, anniversaries, etc. Imagine having to put your life on the line being worried that your little kid is in the hospital and you haven't been able to see her or comfort her for even a minute. Not only that but when DH is home he works way more than just 40 hours a week and there is weeks at the time he works every day and we don't get that time back. I respect law enforcement and firefighters. Just because we are military we don't feel entitled to a discount, my husband hates any type of recognition. We appreciate any discount that they give us but if they didn't give us a discount we don't feel that is because of lack of respect. We are going to disney the 3rd time this year and there have been times when the discount they are offering is better than the military discount and is the discount that is offer to everyone.

I know you said your DH doesn't like any type of recognition but could you please thank him for me anyway?

 

[Luv2CtheMouse]

I respect the job each of those men and women do, but I do not agree with you OP. A lot of people put their lives on the line daily and their job is not dangerous. Bus drivers, pastors, taxi drivers, home builders, trash men, people that work in school cross walks and more.

 

[livie1205]

OK, I wasn't going to jump in on this one, but I have to say that while I am not here to defend the OP 100% because I don't feel that ANYONE is ENTITLED to a discount, the above post is absolutely ludicrous in the context of this discussion. Are you actually comparing a person who cuts down trees with a person who puts their life on the line for strangers every time they put on the uniform? Just because more tree trimmers die while doing their jobs doesn't make their job a noble one. A structural metal worker has a greater chance of dying than a firefighter? OK. Who cares? I respect a firefighter more because he runs into a burning building to save a complete stranger. Not to make money. Not to get accolades. To save lives. An electrical power installer may have a better chance of dying than a police officer, but, to be frank, I don't give a rat's behind about an electrical power installer unless there's one in my family. But when I see a police officer or firefighter, I feel a helluvalot safer being in their presence.


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All of that being said, I don't think they are ENTITLED to a discount. Nobody is. I think it is nice what Disney does for the military, but they don't even have to do that.

THIS is what I meant in my post...I am not angry with anyone about their post but a logger is not going to have someone walk up to them and spit in their face or hate you and your family JUST because they cut trees.There is no comparison to a firefighter who runs INTO a buring building to help others...and no I say again I do not feel like we should get a discount

 

[livie1205]

And I'm sure there are few ways in which they can abuse their power over the rest of us, either.

As long as we are lumping everyone together does that mean all teachers have sex with their 5th graders?no of course not so you can see how silly that sounds ?
how many teachers and drs ABUSE their power? Its on cnn allll the time right? Lets NOT judge all LEO's on a few bad ones.

 

[Doctor P]

THIS is what I meant in my post...I am not angry with anyone about their post but a logger is not going to have someone walk up to them and spit in their face or hate you and your family JUST because they cut trees.There is no comparison to a firefighter who runs INTO a buring building to help others...and no I say again I do not feel like we should get a discount

I guess you have no familiarity with environmental terrorism which DOES threaten loggers, oil drillers, etc. But, again, where do you draw the line on this stuff. Frankly, as well-motivated and emotionally satisfying it is to favor discounts for the military, even those discounts can be criticized. If we were talking about discounts for military members who themselves have been on active duty in harm's way in the last six months and limited the discount to the individual and not their family then it would be pretty darn hard to argue. But, that is not how most of these "politically correct" programs have worked.

 

[Twinprincesses]

In our area I have seen police and firefighters get discounts (even free meals) at restaurants, bars and strip clubs. So the ones I knew would get a little upset if a place did not offer a discount for their profession. So I can see how after being used to getting so many discounts someone would expect Disney to offer a discount too.

I agree with others though in a line has to be drawn somewhere. Disney is a business and is out to make money, bottom line.

So do you think that the discount should apply just to the service person or to the entire family?

 

[livie1205]

LEO's are NOT allowed to take discounts or free meals here,its against policy and they do enforce it.We have been offered free meals before and we always pay.WDW is the LAST place we would ever expect a discount

 

[belle&sebastiansmom]

OK, I wasn't going to jump in on this one, but I have to say that while I am not here to defend the OP 100% because I don't feel that ANYONE is ENTITLED to a discount, the above post is absolutely ludicrous in the context of this discussion. Are you actually comparing a person who cuts down trees with a person who puts their life on the line for strangers every time they put on the uniform? Just because more tree trimmers die while doing their jobs doesn't make their job a noble one. A structural metal worker has a greater chance of dying than a firefighter? OK. Who cares? I respect a firefighter more because he runs into a burning building to save a complete stranger. Not to make money. Not to get accolades. To save lives. An electrical power installer may have a better chance of dying than a police officer, but, to be frank, I don't give a rat's behind about an electrical power installer unless there's one in my family. But when I see a police officer or firefighter, I feel a helluvalot safer being in their presence.

I don't believe ANYONE is ENTITLED to a discount, so I'm with you there. I did read the entire post, and only commented when I saw you bring tree trimmers and electricians into the mix...I certainly didn't mean to put words in your mouth, but those two aren't civil servants and they certainly wouldn't be on my top 10 list of heroes. They do their job for the money they earn and that is all. There is no nobility to fixing someone's electric or cutting down someone's tree. However, there is ALOT of nobility in responding to a 911 call at 2:30 am.

And it has ZERO to do with respect...I respect a tree trimmer because I am afraid of heights and would NEVER do what they do. But their job isn't noble, and it has never been called a civil service. Life threatening does NOT equal noble...at least in my eyes.

I don't understand where the notion of a "noble" job has come into play. The idea was simply categorizing "dangerous" jobs. For what it's worth, my idea of noble is self-sacrificing. To some (and I agree) that is the police officer and the firefighter. To others that is the electrician who spends countless hours getting power restored in dangerous conditions after a hurricane. After living through Katrina, you bet I think those tree trimmers do noble work! Especially those that left their families for months to come to the Coast to clean up the area. Maybe the idea isn't so much a "noble" job, but how noble a person can be in any given situation.

Sorry, but I don't understand your post. You said it has Zero to do with respect, then you say you respect a tree trimmer, but some things in your first post could be considered quite disrespectful to the people who do the same types of jobs you don't deem as noble (which is fine) but you now respect? And actually, tree trimming is a civil service job when employed by the government.

If certain jobs get discounts to theme parks, great, take advantage of it! But not getting discounts is by no means indicative of the level of respect for the noble men and women of many professions!

 

[eliza61]

leo's are not allowed to take discounts or free meals here,its against policy and they do enforce it.we have been offered free meals before and we always pay.wdw is the last place we would ever expect a discount

But that's just it, Disney has been offering discounts out the wazoo.
4/3
Bounceback rates
free dining
40% off room rates
get into the park for your birthday free
get a free park ticket for a day of service in 2010

There cannot be anyone out there still paying regular rack rates anymore.
Christmas is probably the only week that doesn't offer a discount.
The service men I know don't even use SOG because the other discounts are much more attractive.

If a LEO or fire fighter are not getting a discount at disney nowadays, sorry they are not trying real hard

 

[WDSearcher]

Does anyone else think that Disney does not pay enough respect to Police, Firefighters and EMT? They don't have to go as far as any extent that they do for the military but something like discounts on rooms or tickets or something like that would be nice. I know the swan and dolphin have these discounts and they are nice but some variety would be nice as well.

Clearly, the police, firefighers and EMTs don't agree with you, or they wouldn't be coming to WDW. And based on the number of people walking around trading FD patches, looking for police & fire-based merch, and looking for EMT jobs to transfer into, I'm thinking that if those populations felt as though they were not "paid enough respect", they'd be advocating to their unions that folks should boycott the Mouse.

You're equating "respect" with "discounts", and that's a big apples & oranges thing. Now ... if you had said, "Does anyone else think that Disney should expand their military discounts to include police, firefighters and EMTs?", THAT's a fair question.

 

[ShannonMB]

I don't understand where the notion of a "noble" job has come into play. The idea was simply categorizing "dangerous" jobs. For what it's worth, my idea of noble is self-sacrificing. To some (and I agree) that is the police officer and the firefighter. To others that is the electrician who spends countless hours getting power restored in dangerous conditions after a hurricane. After living through Katrina, you bet I think those tree trimmers do noble work! Especially those that left their families for months to come to the Coast to clean up the area. Maybe the idea isn't so much a "noble" job, but how noble a person can be in any given situation.

Great post! I know when MY power goes out, I don't often think about the men (and women) who go out in the middle of the night in a storm to climb an icy pole so I can flip a switch! Some of these posts are probably getting a little OT, but I appreciate your thoughts.

 

[badblackpug]

There are pretty dramatic, broad generalizations being made in this thread, aren't there? I guess it comes down to everyone's personal superheroes. For some it's cops, for some teachers, for others (me) it's nurses. Let's all appreciate those who have helped us and touched our lives on a personal level every single day, rather than wait for Disney to do it.

Very nicely said.

 

[fireflymedic]

Well DW lost a chance to thank at least the Vounteer Firefighters with the give a day get a day discount.

Our Vol. FD looked into the discount you can regester your FD but they will give the free day only for doing something other than firefighting. IE you can wash the Fire truck and get free day but not fighting fires

seemed strange to me.

 

[Rip]

You do a wonderful service in protecting children and I have total respect for you but I am refering to persons who knowingly put ther lives at risk every time they put on a uniform.

Voluntarily and for pay, don't forget.