Anyone buy a German Shepherd directly from a breeder?

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I've decided to get a new dog. I know there are rescue dogs available but I want one from a pup. :)

Are any of you willing to share your experiences purchasing directly from a breeder? I've only contacted one so far & boy have prices gone up! It's been over 16 years since we had our last GS & she was purchased at a mall pet shop.

I have the time to train him/her & someone will always be home to care for the pup. Any experiences with training or resources to check will be helpful as well. DH trained our last one & she was very well trained. This one will be up to me because I'm home more. Of course, I'd like to check into guard dog training, too (the German one that starts with an S).

Any help is appreciated.:)
 
Bought my last two GS from breeders and they were/are the best dogs that we have ever had. In my opinion I have found that they were easier to train and more willing to learn than the one that we had from the pet store though that could have just been our experience. From your name can I assume that you live in MD? The reason I ask is that my breeder is in MD and I can give some good references. Feel free to PM me with any questions that you may have and I will be willing to help out.
 
Bought my last two GS from breeders and they were/are the best dogs that we have ever had. In my opinion I have found that they were easier to train and more willing to learn than the one that we had from the pet store though that could have just been our experience. From your name can I assume that you live in MD? The reason I ask is that my breeder is in MD and I can give some good references. Feel free to PM me with any questions that you may have and I will be willing to help out.

Sent you a PM. Thanks!:thumbsup2
 

Make sure the breeder does all the necessary tests, like for hips, or any other hereditary diseases they are prone to, it's been awhile since I had a GS but I know dysplasia is common. Also ask if they show or belong to any clubs. You want to stay away from someone who just breeds to breed.

Good luck !
 
I have three shepherds. Two adoptees and one from a breeder. One of the adoptees and the one from the breeder are Shiloh Shepherds.

Try your local German Shepherd Association or some type of owner's clubs. Usually the good breeders are kinda underground and won't advertise openly but you can find them via other owners.

And I do recommend Shilohs. They were bred to have better hip genetics and eyes. Only drawback is they seem TOO smart sometimes.

Good luck! :thumbsup2
 
Yes, I bought my GSD from a breeder. You need to thoroughly......and I mean THOROUGHLY research each and every breeder you are interested in. Go look at the breed clubs to find some names.

Buying directly thru a breeder does not guarantee a "better" dog. There are far more poor breeders than good breeders. You want to look at the background of the dam and sire. Having a champion something way back in the pedigree does you no good! There's alot to learn.
 
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Hey, one of my Olympus buddies. :goodvibes

I am on a netbook at my DDs hospital bedside so bear with me.

My highest priority when buying a GSD is temperament. I want a stable temperament, because having a GSD without a stable temperament makes day to day life very difficult and puts everyone at risk. I want to meet both parents and see that they're friendly and meet the breed standard - cautious of strangers but not aggressive. One time when we drove up to the breeders' house, we got nervous when two huge GSDs ran up to the car barking. My DH rolled down the window :scared: and the male promptly stuck a stick in the window for my DH to throw to him. That was a stable dog.

I also want to see that the people I'm buying from have made efforts to "do the right thing" by their dogs, not simply breed for profit alone. For example, my current dog's father was certified as a Therapy Dog by Therapy Dogs International. That took a lot of effort on the breeder's part in training and socializing the dog. Both parents were also OFA certified, and although that won't guarantee my dog won't have hip problems, I know my breeder cared about it so hopefully the incidence of hip dysplasia is lessened, at least. I've had enough medical problems with my six GSDs to know that hip problems are not the only thing that can happen - one of my dogs was on wheels at the end of his life but his hips were great, it was arthritis of the spine that caused him problems.

So a lot to think about when looking for a dog.

Once you get the dog, get him out everywhere you possibly can, and enroll in a group training class - preferable one that goes long term. I like group as opposed to private training because your dog learns how to behave around other dogs as well as all kinds of distrctions. I personally would not do any type of Schutzund (?sp) training unless I was doing police work with the dog. I am very strict with my dogs that dog teeth can never go on human skin in any way; not playing games with my dogs that pit them against me (ie tug of war); and not letting anyone play rough with them. This has worked for me. My dogs know the difference between friend and foe and we do not have any "accidental" bites. This is important to me because I have a lot of kids and others coming and going around my house. As you know, there is a very strong herding instinct in some dogs, including the one I have now, who I had to teach to carry a soccer ball in her mouth when she's out with the kids as she wanted to nip their ankles - so now she "bumps" them with the ball instead and she's satisfied with that alone. (And now that she's older, she knows it's a no no anyway.)

Gotta go. Good luck in finding your dog. paw: (And want to see some puppy pics!)
 
Thanks everyone, you've all been very helpful. I knew I'd get great info here.

I will post pics when we bring him/her home.:)
 
Hey, one of my Olympus buddies. :goodvibes

I am on a netbook at my DDs hospital bedside so bear with me.

My highest priority when buying a GSD is temperament. I want a stable temperament, because having a GSD without a stable temperament makes day to day life very difficult and puts everyone at risk. I want to meet both parents and see that they're friendly and meet the breed standard - cautious of strangers but not aggressive. One time when we drove up to the breeders' house, we got nervous when two huge GSDs ran up to the car barking. My DH rolled down the window :scared: and the male promptly stuck a stick in the window for my DH to throw to him. That was a stable dog.

I also want to see that the people I'm buying from have made efforts to "do the right thing" by their dogs, not simply breed for profit alone. For example, my current dog's father was certified as a Therapy Dog by Therapy Dogs International. That took a lot of effort on the breeder's part in training and socializing the dog. Both parents were also OFA certified, and although that won't guarantee my dog won't have hip problems, I know my breeder cared about it so hopefully the incidence of hip dysplasia is lessened, at least. I've had enough medical problems with my six GSDs to know that hip problems are not the only thing that can happen - one of my dogs was on wheels at the end of his life but his hips were great, it was arthritis of the spine that caused him problems.

So a lot to think about when looking for a dog.

Once you get the dog, get him out everywhere you possibly can, and enroll in a group training class - preferable one that goes long term. I like group as opposed to private training because your dog learns how to behave around other dogs as well as all kinds of distrctions. I personally would not do any type of Schutzund (?sp) training unless I was doing police work with the dog. I am very strict with my dogs that dog teeth can never go on human skin in any way; not playing games with my dogs that pit them against me (ie tug of war); and not letting anyone play rough with them. This has worked for me. My dogs know the difference between friend and foe and we do not have any "accidental" bites. This is important to me because I have a lot of kids and others coming and going around my house. As you know, there is a very strong herding instinct in some dogs, including the one I have now, who I had to teach to carry a soccer ball in her mouth when she's out with the kids as she wanted to nip their ankles - so now she "bumps" them with the ball instead and she's satisfied with that alone. (And now that she's older, she knows it's a no no anyway.)

Gotta go. Good luck in finding your dog. paw: (And want to see some puppy pics!)

These are all really, really good points! (and hope your DD gets better soon!:grouphug:)

The only one I would disagree with is making sure the breeder has both parents on the property. In fact, having both on the property would make me look at them just a bit closer to make sure they are not backyard breeders.

Many of the best breeders will use AI to produce their best litters. If they used AI, that usually means they did a hard search to find the best dog in the country that would be the best fit for their *****.

So, if you ask to see both parents and they can only produce a vial for one of them, don't let it scare you away. In fact, you can be pretty sure that they wouldn't have gone through that much expense, it is very expensive to AI, if they didn't know what they were doing. Now, if they say that the neighbor down the street has the father and they just wanted puppies for the kids to witness the miracle of birth, then walk out right then and there :goodvibes

As mentioned, make sure you see either an OFA or Penn Hip certification for hips and elbows. Cerf for the eyes would be good too. Research what other diseases that GSDs are prone to and make sure that the breeder has tested for all of them. Again, a breeder who takes the necessary steps to make sure they are not carrying on genetic diseases is a reputable breeder.

Run, don't walk, if a breeder says it is not necessary to OFA the hips and elbows.The German Shepherd Dog of America Breed Club is the national breed club for GSDs and has a link on its home page on how to find a reputable breeder for puppies.

They should be your first source in finding a breeder recommendation in your area.

And always buy a puppy from a breeder that subscribes to the ethics of the breed club.

Some of the other things a reliable breeder will do:

Many will not let you choose the puppy in the litter - they are experienced and will choose the best puppy with the best temperament that fits your family. This ticked me off the first puppy I bought, but when I saw how wonderful our puppy fit in our family, it made me realize, these guys are the experts. You don't want to choose the alpha puppy if you are a laid back family. You don't want to choose a more laid back puppy if your family is on the go all the time. A good breeder knows how to temperament test their puppies and put them in a situation that will be the best for the puppy and the family.

The breeder will ask you as many questions as you will ask them. This may be a pain, but it is a good thing. It means your breeder cares about where the puppies go and not just the money being made.

Make sure the breeder will be available for mentoring while your puppy grows up. They should be willing to answer questions you have about raising, training or health issues throughout the dog's life.

Make sure your breeder will take the puppy back no matter how old if you ever need to relinquish it. This is another sign that the breeder is doing this for the breed and not for profit.

My parents raised GSD's and I showed them when I was young, so they are near and dear to my heart. Wonderful dogs!!!
 
Best of luck to you! My GSD was truly a wonderful family member! She had no formal Shutzhund (sp?) training but the nature of shepherds is protective anyway.

One time my (and we had numerous stories that are similar) daughter was home alone after school. It was about an hour until I would get home. She was 10. The pest control guy came to spray. He always "creeped her out" and he knocked on the door to insist that she SIGN the paper, instead of him just leaving it in the door as usual. Our shepherd, Carson, easily picked up the vibe from my daughter and just placed herself between the two. Her hackles were up and she never made a sound. She was just THERE. She didn't need to "act like a guard dog" (barking, growling, etc) cause the silence was more effective!

Wonderful breed.......as long as you train and socialize and train some more! Hope you LOVE dog hair!!!!:rotfl:
 
Just to add, the GSDCA has a great page on how to tell different breeders apart. A buyer of course always wants to strive for the reputable hobby breeder or the experienced breeder.

http://www.gsdca.org/gsdca_joomla/i...g-standard/choosing-a-puppy/types-of-breeders


Edited to add: Some good questions to ask a breeder to see if they were breeding just to breed (backyard or puppymill) or if they are responsible breeders is to ask:

Why did you produce this litter? Why did you choose this particular dog to breed with your *****? What were your goals for the litter and what were you trying to improve? What strengths did your choice of sire bring to your *****?

The breeder should be able to tell you specific goals of the litter; ie; they wanted a better topline, they wanted more bone, they chose the dog for its stable temperament, etc.

If they look at you blankly and say something like "we wanted puppies", they are not a reliable breeder. A reputable breeder always has specific goals they want to accomplish with a litter and should be able to share them with you. If they tell you that they wanted a better showdog, ask what they were specifically breeding for that would give them a better dog than the one they have now.
 
Hope you LOVE dog hair!!!!:rotfl:

Amen...I used to vaccum my SUV. Now with four of 'em I just open up all the doors and tailgate and take a leaf-blower to it. And the Dyson needs emptying after each room. :rotfl:
 
Best of luck to you! My GSD was truly a wonderful family member! She had no formal Shutzhund (sp?) training but the nature of shepherds is protective anyway.

One time my (and we had numerous stories that are similar) daughter was home alone after school. It was about an hour until I would get home. She was 10. The pest control guy came to spray. He always "creeped her out" and he knocked on the door to insist that she SIGN the paper, instead of him just leaving it in the door as usual. Our shepherd, Carson, easily picked up the vibe from my daughter and just placed herself between the two. Her hackles were up and she never made a sound. She was just THERE. She didn't need to "act like a guard dog" (barking, growling, etc) cause the silence was more effective!

Wonderful breed.......as long as you train and socialize and train some more! Hope you LOVE dog hair!!!!:rotfl:

:rotfl: I remember that from my last GSD, that is why I bought a Kirby! Good thing I still have it.

I guess I just won't be baking for anyone, cause those hairs are gonna be everywhere!:laughing:
 
Hey Everyone I love all talk German Shepherd. I have researched the breed for many years and finally got my first German Shepherd puppy last December from a Breeder in the Orlando area. I have never had a puppy/breed of dog that was more willing to learn and please. Even as a puppy you can tell the difference. He has a GREAT personality. (He will be a year old next month October) and has already completed the basic obedience class and is working on offleash training and then Protection training (so that he learns the right and wrong way to alert and protect us). I have found my breed for life :lovestruc I hope that no one minds but I wanted to share his photos with you all (In hopes that maybe others who wish could share their pics as well). Im not trying to hijack the thread but I figured instead of starting a new German Shepherd thread, to share on here since we all seem to have the love of the breed within us :thumbsup2

This photo is my son and Harley (my pup) the day we got him (he was 7 weeks old)
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And this is Harley now (well give or take a few months ago) at almost a year of age...Actually I think this one was taken when he was about 8 months old
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Please excuse the large pics...I do apologize :headache:
 
Hey, one of my Olympus buddies. :goodvibes

I am on a netbook at my DDs hospital bedside so bear with me.

My highest priority when buying a GSD is temperament. I want a stable temperament, because having a GSD without a stable temperament makes day to day life very difficult and puts everyone at risk. I want to meet both parents and see that they're friendly and meet the breed standard - cautious of strangers but not aggressive. One time when we drove up to the breeders' house, we got nervous when two huge GSDs ran up to the car barking. My DH rolled down the window :scared: and the male promptly stuck a stick in the window for my DH to throw to him. That was a stable dog.

I also want to see that the people I'm buying from have made efforts to "do the right thing" by their dogs, not simply breed for profit alone. For example, my current dog's father was certified as a Therapy Dog by Therapy Dogs International. That took a lot of effort on the breeder's part in training and socializing the dog. Both parents were also OFA certified, and although that won't guarantee my dog won't have hip problems, I know my breeder cared about it so hopefully the incidence of hip dysplasia is lessened, at least. I've had enough medical problems with my six GSDs to know that hip problems are not the only thing that can happen - one of my dogs was on wheels at the end of his life but his hips were great, it was arthritis of the spine that caused him problems.

So a lot to think about when looking for a dog.

Once you get the dog, get him out everywhere you possibly can, and enroll in a group training class - preferable one that goes long term. I like group as opposed to private training because your dog learns how to behave around other dogs as well as all kinds of distrctions. I personally would not do any type of Schutzund (?sp) training unless I was doing police work with the dog. I am very strict with my dogs that dog teeth can never go on human skin in any way; not playing games with my dogs that pit them against me (ie tug of war); and not letting anyone play rough with them. This has worked for me. My dogs know the difference between friend and foe and we do not have any "accidental" bites. This is important to me because I have a lot of kids and others coming and going around my house. As you know, there is a very strong herding instinct in some dogs, including the one I have now, who I had to teach to carry a soccer ball in her mouth when she's out with the kids as she wanted to nip their ankles - so now she "bumps" them with the ball instead and she's satisfied with that alone. (And now that she's older, she knows it's a no no anyway.)

Gotta go. Good luck in finding your dog. paw: (And want to see some puppy pics!)


Excellent post.

I would not buy a Shepherd unless both parents are OFA certified. There is too much hip displasia in the breed. OFA'ed parents won't guarantee your pup to be HD free, but it will help the odds tremendously. You do not want to have to deal with a dysplastic dog!

I agree on not training the dog in Schutzund. Even though it's a "game" to the dog, you don't want to train your shepherd that it is ever okay to lay his teeth on anyone. They have enough instinct to know when it's okay to bite. I never teach my dogs to bite the sleeve, and I never play rough with them. They are plenty protective enough without the Schutzund training. When we have attended Shutzhund classes, we only did the obedience and tracking parts, but never the bite training. I highly recommend puppy school so your puppy gets plenty of socialization while he is young.
 
Great advice! Zelda came from a breeder that has both parents on property. The breeder was just wonderful and has several litters every year. She breeds particular working dog bloodlines and actively shows her dogs. She also guarantees them up to 5 years of age against any genetic issues. We got on the list to get our pick of her next litter when we decided to get a GS. She offered to give us a tour before hand (we didn't do that - only because it was a couple of hours drive to get there). We met both parents the day we picked Zelda. They were both friendly social dogs. (We also met several other dogs of her's that day as well and all of them had great personalities)

I've had dogs and horses for several years, so I had been around other animal breeding/care facilities. I was just impressed by her facility, she was all business but obviously cared a great deal about her animals. She basically interviewed me before she'd put me on the list to get a puppy. She was very helpful, giving me tips on how to train the pup to clip her nails and groom. I still send her pictures now and then of Zelda and have no doubt that I'll buy another dog from her some day.

Have to add that Zelda's parents were certified for both Hip and elbow issues. The breeder would not breed dogs that didn't have at least a "fair" or better hip and elbow rating
 

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