Any Reformed FP- Uber Users Who Have Embraced FP+ ?

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I guess they weren't really busy days but if you look closely at the times, my new fast passes would be 5 minutes after my older fast pass window opened.

I would be standing at a FP kiosk inserting our tickets over and over right at the minute (was mostly 5 minutes early and would kinda stand around and try over and over until my time was perfect) my next FP window would open.

Then, we would use all of them back to back later on that evening. We had 6 sets of Expedition Everest tickets at one point, just went on it over and over again.

I can see the windows, but not the information at the bottom.

 

[Shaden]

I didn't even realize I had read it wrong until you jumped all over me. That's why I didn't request a clarification.

you didn't read it wrong. You just read it.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

hahahaha, this is just hilarious, she didn't make an assumption, YOU posted indicating exactly what she said.

That's like me posting. "Man I hate the colour blue"

Then someone saying "Shaden does not like the colour blue"

Then me getting all upset "How do you know I don't like blue ? Why would you post something false ? Why are you making assumptions?"

You are right--I posted exactly what she said and I will post it again.

I didn't post that I hated the color blue.

My post about assumptions was in direct response to her admission that she had assumed (using the phrase "I thought" makes it an assumption). I even bolded it like I did the first time.

See below:

LOL on your need to insist that's the case.

Plenty of people claim to love FP+ but then say they really aren't into headliners. I thought maybe your family just didn't like those rides or something. Or didn't like TSMM enough to wait for it or invest a FP+ in it, and didn't get to Epcot in time to get a FP after using your spot at TT or something.

And do you really expect people to know you well enough, or to search out your posts on another thread before replying?

My apologies for not reading between the lines and relying solely on what you posted here.

 

[mom2rtk]

You are right--I posted exactly what she said and I will post it again.

I didn't post that I hated the color blue.

My post about assumptions was in direct response to her admission that she had assumed (using the phrase "I thought" makes it an assumption). I even bolded it like I did the first time.

See below:

Keep digging.

I was only explaining why I took you at your word and believed that you hadn't done TSMM and Soarin.

And with that everyone can breathe a huge sigh of relief. I will not reply to you in this thread again as I'm sure this is all getting very tiring.

 

[Shaden]

You are right--I posted exactly what she said and I will post it again.

I didn't post that I hated the color blue.

My post about assumptions was in direct response to her admission that she had assumed (using the phrase "I thought" makes it an assumption). I even bolded it like I did the first time.

See below:

I mean, people have already pointed this out to you, but she "thought" you didn't try soarin or TSMM because its exactly what you posted:

My family rode EE 3X first week of December. Kali was ridden 4x the same day.
Did not try TSMM due to other plans. Could have at least 2x if not for other plans.
Soarin' did not try as we hit the park after 12 noon the first time and not until near 4 the second day.

So I wouldn't say it is out of the question if it is your priority for at least 2x.

You didn't say "but we rode them other days" or "we rode them SB" or "Other family members rode them"

You said you "Did not try" TSMM or Soarin ... period. That's what you said, exactly, in context, no assumptions, your words.

Seriously, you should stop trying to defend your post or say someone else made an assumption.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Keep digging.

I was only explaining why I took you at your word and believed that you hadn't done TSMM and Soarin.

And with that everyone can breathe a huge sigh of relief. I will not reply to you in this thread again as I'm sure this is all getting very tiring.

I am not digging anything. A poster commented and I responded to them, not you.

Rest assured I am placing no additional effort into our prior conversation. You have said your words and I have said mine.

 

[awilliams4]

I can see the windows, but not the information at the bottom.

The windows tell you what is needed, once a FP- ticket window opens, you may get another. So if you have (had I guess) an 11:00 - 12:00, you were allowed to get another one at 11:00 for any ride.

 

[awilliams4]

Speaking from experience (see my pics), I can say with absolute certainty that doing the FP- Super User thing took up far far far more time, energy, logistics, running around the park, getting to the parks sooner than I would have liked, distractions by always having to check the watch, the previous set of FP-s, etc then the new FP+ setup does.

As far as FP- vs FP+, FP+ is FAR more relaxing. There is no comparison.

 

[MaryKatesMom]

Yes, I realize this.

Sorry, what I meant to say was......I rarely saw anyone using FP during the first hour on many rides with FP+.

We did TSMM at RD several times with FP+ and dozens with FP-.

With FP+ instead of the entire SB line walking steadily toward the ride entrance at opening once you got to the ride entrance there was a stop while the FP+ line was a constant stream onto the ride. This was at 9:00.

If you weren't the first few dozen onto TSMM at opening you waited longer in the SB ride.

 

[Shaden]

Anyway,

Back to the main question.

No FP+ has not converted us from FP-, in fact, among other concerns, but seriously among them, it contributed to the current sad signature I am sporting.

The thing we liked most: arrival day. That really is a great benefit over the previous system, just to know you have FPs booked for later in the day.

Otherwise ... basically nothing.

We used to tour the parks in a relaxed manner, just walking around, grabbing FPs where they were available and if it made sense. Ie: At space, don't like the wait, grab an FP and hit up buzz or laugh floor, then hit up space again. Space is a walk on ? Awesome, ride it, maybe grab an FP for a bit later, hit up buzz and laugh floor, and then hit up space again on FP this time as the SB line has built up.

We didn't need to crisscross the parks, or walk a ton extra to get FPs, etc. We just did it as we went along.

We rode a LOT, and repeated the majors. The non-majors, we really aren't willing to stand in line very long. That's just not a vacation to us, we aren't paying thousands of dollars and using what precious vacation time we have to stand in line.

Now, its harder to reride the majors, especially in the tiered parks, and the less major attractions have longer lines, really not cool for us.

We actually found ourselves doing more crisscrossing the parks last time because beyond the 3rd FP we constantly have to go back to a Kiosk, find out whats available, then head off to that attraction.

Now, there are times this could work out great, where the Kiosk is on your way, and other times it really doesn't, like leaving Big thunder and wanting to FP Splash.


I really do wonder if anyone else has noticed something though. In the lead up to FP+'s implementation, people who liked the look of it would say things like "This will be great, now I will be able to ride TSMM or RNR or whatever, when I never got a FP before for it" and people who didn't like the sound of FP+ would say "you can FP those rides, you just have to go at RD or close to RD"

Now the pro-FP people would get all upset about this and say they didn't want to RD. That was crap, and this system will be much better because you wont have to RD.

Now, it seems like many of the people who like or defend FP+ say that its great because you can FP+ something later in the day, but its still possible to get just as much done as long as you go to RD ??? It seems, at least to me, that FP+ has only heightened the need to RD, or accept doing less, and maybe both ?

 

[Disneylover99]

We did TSMM at RD several times with FP+ and dozens with FP-.

With FP+ instead of the entire SB line walking steadily toward the ride entrance at opening once you got to the ride entrance there was a stop while the FP+ line was a constant stream onto the ride. This was at 9:00.

If you weren't the first few dozen onto TSMM at opening you waited longer in the SB ride.

For sure, TSMM is definitely an exception. And probably Seven Dwarves as well. That's why I said many, and not all.

We've done rope drop at TSMM, and every time we've done it, I swear, never again.

 

[SmithSmith]

Nothing goes over my head, my reflexes are too quick...

Thanks, this was my favorite line of the film.

 

[SmithSmith]

Smart users know to use the first hour FP at the end of the first hour window so that they can ride standby without waits, then use their FP when it gets busier. Also lots of people come late or sleep in and actually miss their first hour or two of FP. With legacy of course, people actually had to be in the parks to get their fp's, so most used their fp's. I rarely saw anyone using FP during the first hour on many rides with FP+.

We didn't make it to SM until around 10am our first morning. It was a walk on. Only rode once though because it scared me. Could have rode multiple times.

We didn't make it to EE til 9:30, complete walk on, rode twice. Didn't care to ride anymore, but easily could have.

Never had issues with FP lines forming at 9.

 

[SmithSmith]

In your case, considering you have access to EMH AND plan to leave the parks after lunch, I would absolutely use those Fp's for your evening return! You will be able to pretty much do all you wish to do with the EMH and low crowds in your park of choice before lunch and then will be able to use your fps for headliners or whatever you wish for your evening park!

Exactly how I toured and loved it!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Anyway,

Back to the main question.

No FP+ has not converted us from FP-, in fact, among other concerns, but seriously among them, it contributed to the current sad signature I am sporting.

The thing we liked most: arrival day. That really is a great benefit over the previous system, just to know you have FPs booked for later in the day.

Otherwise ... basically nothing.

We used to tour the parks in a relaxed manner, just walking around, grabbing FPs where they were available and if it made sense. Ie: At space, don't like the wait, grab an FP and hit up buzz or laugh floor, then hit up space again. Space is a walk on ? Awesome, ride it, maybe grab an FP for a bit later, hit up buzz and laugh floor, and then hit up space again on FP this time as the SB line has built up.

We didn't need to crisscross the parks, or walk a ton extra to get FPs, etc. We just did it as we went along.

We rode a LOT, and repeated the majors. The non-majors, we really aren't willing to stand in line very long. That's just not a vacation to us, we aren't paying thousands of dollars and using what precious vacation time we have to stand in line.

Now, its harder to reride the majors, especially in the tiered parks, and the less major attractions have longer lines, really not cool for us.

We actually found ourselves doing more crisscrossing the parks last time because beyond the 3rd FP we constantly have to go back to a Kiosk, find out whats available, then head off to that attraction.

Now, there are times this could work out great, where the Kiosk is on your way, and other times it really doesn't, like leaving Big thunder and wanting to FP Splash.


I really do wonder if anyone else has noticed something though. In the lead up to FP+'s implementation, people who liked the look of it would say things like "This will be great, now I will be able to ride TSMM or RNR or whatever, when I never got a FP before for it" and people who didn't like the sound of FP+ would say "you can FP those rides, you just have to go at RD or close to RD"

Now the pro-FP people would get all upset about this and say they didn't want to RD. That was crap, and this system will be much better because you wont have to RD.

Now, it seems like many of the people who like or defend FP+ say that its great because you can FP+ something later in the day, but its still possible to get just as much done as long as you go to RD ??? It seems, at least to me, that FP+ has only heightened the need to RD, or accept doing less, and maybe both ?

Not sure I understand you question correctly, but I will give it a shot.

I have preferred RD since my teens in the late 80s. This preference predates FP Legacy and continued throughout that. FP+ helps us to maximize that further because now I can guarantee a minimal wait time during a peak time of the day on rides that would often exceed 45 minutes and creep into the 100s of minutes.

I will provide the disclaimer that we customarily purpose to avoid busy times which we define by the blackout dates of the Florids Resident seasonal pass.
We have found that when we do step in the waters of peak season, RD has been even more important.

I do find with the 4th FP option that stacking the deck with all rides much later in the day does impact the ability to obtain a 4th. So while I won't necessarily FP for park open (as we don't find to necessary), I may be inching those bookings earlier than I had.

We are likely headed to DHS tomorrow. Morning conflicts prevent us the opportunity to try rope drop. We cannot get there before 3. Our prime mission is the Osborne lights which we chose to skip on our vacation. That had nothing to do with crowds but my personal stamina and fatigue in my current pregnant condition. But I digress. I do accept that such a late arrival does greatly impact our ability to do much. But this same acceptance would have been there under legacy and pre-date legacy. Especially given we are NOT late night people.

But to come full circle, I find the value will always be maximized (for us) with Rope Drop as it has been for the past 25 years or so.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

The windows tell you what is needed, once a FP- ticket window opens, you may get another. So if you have (had I guess) an 11:00 - 12:00, you were allowed to get another one at 11:00 for any ride.

Could not remember if the window had to start or be done (so new FPs at beginning of window or end). Just seems that close together that it must have been a light day to secure so many in close proximity of times for the same ride.

 

[MaryKatesMom]

For sure, TSMM is definitely an exception. And probably Seven Dwarves as well. That's why I said many, and not all.

We've done rope drop at TSMM, and every time we've done it, I swear, never again.

Happened even at Maelstrom at opening. I was shocked. At the time Maelstrom was a Tier 1 and I seriously said to the DH "Who would pick that over Soarin' or TT?" The answer was you do if there is nothing else left.

If you are stacking all your rides 9, 10, & 11 which we sometime do you are riding SOMETHING between 9-10 on FP+ which never happened before.

I don't think TSMM is the exception rather if the SB line ISN'T moving slower at 9 then it used to be than that would be the exception.

 

[SmithSmith]

I mean, people have already pointed this out to you, but she "thought" you didn't try soarin or TSMM because its exactly what you posted:



You didn't say "but we rode them other days" or "we rode them SB" or "Other family members rode them"

You said you "Did not try" TSMM or Soarin ... period. That's what you said, exactly, in context, no assumptions, your words.

Seriously, you should stop trying to defend your post or say someone else made an assumption.

Not trying to stir this up again. But if Lisa followed "Did not try TSMM" with "could have at least twice". Then how do you explain someone knowing for sure if they could've riden that attraction multiple times if they weren't physically at the attraction to observe the line in the first place? Meaning she would've had to be physically experiencing TSMM to know what the wait was like.

 

[lllGurulll]

Just accept that you will hate it and try not to let it ruin your trip.

I'm a rope dropper anyway so I know I can knock out most of what we want to ride early. Just frustrated that there won't be much of a reason to stay in the park all day or return in the evenings. Maybe thats a good thing though. Do some things that we haven't done before.

 

[kittyab]

What is RD?