Any other moms disappointed in Miley??

This is exactly what I was thinking. She's 15! Shame on everyone who actually let her do this, especialy her family.

There's a song by the Dishwalla called Pretty Babies and it talks about how unfortunately our society and media are increasingly romanticizing our children. Yuck, to me that's really inappropriate. Kids are kids adults are adults. Let's leave it at that.

It's kind of OT, but I used to work (very briefly) in a very popular children's clothing store (aimed at young girls and "tweens"). It was only about a week, because I just couldn't bring myself to sell those clothes to those kids. It just really bothered me. People would bring their 6 and 7 year olds in wearing halter tops, hip huggers and high heeled boots. Ummmm....No.

Now I work in a BABY store for crying out loud, and we actually had a "dress" by a very popular baby designer that looked exactly like a baby neglige(sp?). We were completely apalled!:scared1: And we had to put that awful thing out there, where some people actually bought it! Thankfully some people have a half a brain, because the rest of them are sitting, untouched, on the clearance rack, but really. If I have to stock one more high cut teeny bikini in a 0-3 month size, I think I might puke. :furious:

Sorry, I'll get off of my soapbox now. Back to the conversation.
 
I actually dont think its that bad. Now I know some of you want to jump down my throat because you have young kids, and yes i agree that as a "child" star, its a bit unappropriate. But if you look at a myspace of some teens, you will realize that some are WORSE than this.
This is what america is coming too. Kids are getting pregnant as young as 13, and we're critisizing mileys parents for a little artistic pose? Thats all it was intended for. Yes it also sent mixed signals because the way she was sitting with her dad it was like trying to be daddys little girl, and then the other one, to me, was she was trying to show that she is growing up.
I personally dont think she will turn out like those other girls (lohan, spears, hilton) because she has self-control. Watching the view, i agree with them. She's at a point in her life where shes trying to be a kid, for the younger audience, but shes also trying to grow up and get an older teen audience to grow up with.
I think at this stage shes just confused. She took those pictures at an artistic view and was told she looked good. Then when they hit the stands, she didnt realize how raunchy they looked and apologized for them and is embarrassed my them. I would be too! She was told she looked amazing...but looking at them, she realized, she looked like a slut.
Now if you really want to debate something that is affecting america most than miley cyrus...check out the polymist thing where they took 463 kids away from their parents. Thats a debate!
 
For some reason I keep having flash backs to the 80's with Brooke Sheilds having nothing coming between her and her Calvins. She turned out OK.

She's 15 unfortunatly.15 year olds are sexual, whether they should be that's a different story. Try and think back at what you were doing and or wanted to do at 15. As long as she isn't hitting the clubs, drunk as a skunk and high I don't think a few pictures will send her into a downward spiral.
 
In my opinion the only problem is that some people think a 15 yo is an appropriate role model for young kids. She is a teenager and she is going to act like one. She isn't going to act like a little kid just some people let their young children watch her show.
 

Well, my girls watched her show, but we never bought anything HM or saw her concerts. Celebrities like her will never be role models to my kids. Just my opinion.

It implies innocence meets sexuality.

That may be, but it is still not right to sexualize children.

I really feel that this was planned in order for her to make that leap, though. This kinda stuff doesn't "just happen" when there are millions (and maybe billions) at stake.
 
i just saw on the news about Miley posing for "artsy" photos with Vanity Fair--I'm quite disappointed in her choice to do this kind of thing. And in her parents' choice to allow it. My daughter is 6 and we have been doing the Hannah thing for a long time--went to the concert, watch the show, have the dolls, clothes etc..

But we won't be having the Hannah birthday party we had planned or redecorating her room in Hannah now!!

Anybody have any thoughts/opinions??
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Does your six year old read Vanity Fair?:confused3
 
I think it's sad/ridiculous that her parents thought it was a good idea, but I don't think it's the end of the world -- it's her bare back. It's the responsibility of parents to teach kids their values, not celebrities. The way the media has been going crazy about this non-"scandal" is absurd and sensationalistic, to say nothing of the disingenuous reaction coming from Disney Channel and Miley herself. I know Disney Channel is only concerned about protecting their bottom line, but they don't own the girl. It's all about the PR. "Whoops, people aren't reacting favorably; start up the spin-machine."
 
Here's my take:

The actual photograph taken isn't that bad. What is bad is the cropping and the way it is cropped in to make it look like she has nothing on. If they had published the full photo, you would have seen here completely covered by the sheet.

Secondly, I read somewhere that Billy Ray stated to, I believe People magazine, that he and Miley's mom had left before that shot was taken and the person left with Miley (grandmother or tutor maybe) was there. They photographer said it would be artistic and ok. Again, the full on photograph is decent and tasteful. What is wrong is the cropping.

Also, the way I understand it, that once they signed the contract to do the shoot, the (the parents) have no control over what is used in the layout.
 
Nope, nothing wrong with the picture, or her doing, or her parents. The paparazzi's will show more of her this summer when they take pics of her at the beach in her bikini. The pictures, I think, are lovely. I think they are tasteful and show a beautiful young women.

I think the press is trying to stir the pot and make something out of nothing. Must have been a slow news day!!

If my DD11, liked her (she doesn't), I would have no problems iwth her watching her on tv and listening to her CD's.
 
I actually dont think its that bad. Now I know some of you want to jump down my throat because you have young kids, and yes i agree that as a "child" star, its a bit unappropriate. But if you look at a myspace of some teens, you will realize that some are WORSE than this.
This is what america is coming too. Kids are getting pregnant as young as 13, and we're critisizing mileys parents for a little artistic pose? Thats all it was intended for. Yes it also sent mixed signals because the way she was sitting with her dad it was like trying to be daddys little girl, and then the other one, to me, was she was trying to show that she is growing up.
I personally dont think she will turn out like those other girls (lohan, spears, hilton) because she has self-control. Watching the view, i agree with them. She's at a point in her life where shes trying to be a kid, for the younger audience, but shes also trying to grow up and get an older teen audience to grow up with.
I think at this stage shes just confused. She took those pictures at an artistic view and was told she looked good. Then when they hit the stands, she didnt realize how raunchy they looked and apologized for them and is embarrassed my them. I would be too! She was told she looked amazing...but looking at them, she realized, she looked like a slut.
Now if you really want to debate something that is affecting america most than miley cyrus...check out the polymist thing where they took 463 kids away from their parents. Thats a debate!


I agree! I don't think what she did was 100% acceptable but she is a teeneager. She wants to grow up yet still maintain her younger audience. I'm sure it can't be easy for her to deal with all of the pressure that she is under. But at least she isn't in the same position as Jamie lynn Spears.
Miley and Jamie lynn have only one year in age difference between them. Just something to think about...:confused:
 
I think the press is trying to stir the pot and make something out of nothing. Must have been a slow news day!!

I heard someone on TV yesterday say something to the effect of, "With all this press coverage over a photo of a bare back, you'd think the war had ended." I'm happy to see the North American press have their priorities straight.
 
I think it's sad that parents let their toddlers and elementary school kids idolize a teenager - 3-10 year olds should not be trying to be a 15 year old. When my daughter was in elementary school it was Britney Spears, and my 8 yr old was not allowed to have her CDs, or anything at all to do with her, because my 8 yr old was too little to try to be a teenager. Why are parents letting their little kids (like the OP's 6 yr old) watch TV shows for tweens? Just because it is Disney doesn't mean it's for preschoolers, for goodness sakes!

I have to totally agree with this. My dd13 and I discussed this in the car today. I said I beleive the children who idolize her are way to young. I work in the Disney Store and have way too many parents of 3-5 year olds talking about Hannah Montana and how their daughter loves her and wants to have a themed room from her. That is too young. This show is for the tween crowd. I would say from 9-13. My dd13 is done with her because she grew out of it, and my DD4 wll not be watching it anytime soon. And this has nothing to do with any pic...I haven't even seen it yet.
 
I'm not personally disappointed, offended or upset by the pics, and wouldn't have a problem with my daughter seeing them. I think it's really unfair that people are referring to them as "topless" photos, when she's really just showing her back like any halter top would. :confused3 I am surprised that she was allowed to take them though, as it's quite predictable that some parents of her young fans wouldn't think they fit well with her squeaky clean Disney image. I don't think they're conservative or modest enough for her image, but wouldn't call them sexual and certainly not as scandalous as some are making them out to be.

I heard someone on TV yesterday say something to the effect of, "With all this press coverage over a photo of a bare back, you'd think the war had ended." I'm happy to see the North American press have their priorities straight.

ITA.

I have to totally agree with this. My dd13 and I discussed this in the car today. I said I beleive the children who idolize her are way to young. I work in the Disney Store and have way too many parents of 3-5 year olds talking about Hannah Montana and how their daughter loves her and wants to have a themed room from her. That is too young. This show is for the tween crowd. I would say from 9-13. My dd13 is done with her because she grew out of it, and my DD4 wll not be watching it anytime soon. And this has nothing to do with any pic...I haven't even seen it yet.

I respectfully disagree. My dd, who is almost 4, loves the Disney shows like HSM, Hannah Montana and Suite Life, in addition to all the Playhouse Disney shows. While I agree that they are geared for an older audience than my dd, I think they are in no way a bad influence on her! I'm not sure why I shouldn't be letting her watch these shows? :confused: Maybe someone can explain it to me, but it seems that everyone is upset because if dd watches Hannah Montana and sees the photos, she might think it's okay to show someone her back. Am I missing something?:confused3
 
I respectfully disagree. My dd, who is almost 4, loves the Disney shows like HSM, Hannah Montana and Suite Life, in addition to all the Playhouse Disney shows. While I agree that they are geared for an older audience than my dd, I think they are in no way a bad influence on her! I'm not sure why I shouldn't be letting her watch these shows? :confused: Maybe someone can explain it to me, but it seems that everyone is upset because if dd watches Hannah Montana and sees the photos, she might think it's okay to show someone her back. Am I missing something?:confused3

My dd would love to watch any tv and would enjoy it. Doesn't mean she should watch it. I don't think that the shows have anything bad in it, neither did Friends, doesn't mean a 4 year old should watch it. There is a lot of kissing and "dating" on those shows, not really something for a 4 year old. But, you are the parent and you make those choices. I am not ridiculing you, I just personally feel it is not appropriate for young children.
 
I think her pics are beautiful, she's 15..has no one gone to Glamour Shots?

they are photos-she is not posing in a compromising position with anyone else

to compare her with girls on the trainwreck is just crazy

my daughter is 14 and if i see one more "posed" photo to post on myspace-I think i will break the camera-parents job to make sure photos are appropriate

to the ladies with the younger kids-nasty girlfriends have a way of getting unwanted things flying around the internet-

unfortunately they see photos like miley's and try to copy them-wish we could have seen the other photos she took as well
 
I am not disappointed in her, I am not her Mother. The people around her did not make the best choice in a way, but her name is still out there because of the controversy. My DD9 likes her but we don't do concerts or anything like that.
Why would any parent have an entertainer, sports figure etc be a role model for their child in the first place?
A child's role models should be the parents and people around them family, famiy friends teachers. I am the most important role model in my DD's life. I show her that even though I may not know how to do something, I at least try. Or I am not afraid to try new things and have an open mind.
A family who lives in Oahu but lived here for a few years who I am close to, the husband is a role model, he adopted the woman's son when he was small and I didn't know that the son was not bio his. A man or woman who takes a child who isn't bio theirs and treats them as their own, that is a role model. When they lived here and when we went to visit, even my DD has been made part of the family. When they lived here and my DD's DF wasn't around at times, this family made sure she was part of the family's activities. And his wife is the same way, she would ask to pick DD out of school and take her with them on picnics or whatever after school. She would fix DD's hair if she spent the night and if you saw them all together you wouldn't think DD wasn't part of the family.
As for Miley, what is going to happen when she hits 18 and is an legal adult but still have younger followers, people will slam her then because she should stay "innocent" or whatever like when Britney became older.
 
I think saying your dissappointed in the parents is silly. It was a photo shoot. If she was just some girl not famous and you went to someone's house and that was on the wall, no one would look twice at it, in fact you might even compliment it.
 
That may be, but it is still not right to sexualize children.

I really feel that this was planned in order for her to make that leap, though. This kinda stuff doesn't "just happen" when there are millions (and maybe billions) at stake.

Well said. Young girls around the world are bing sold as sex slaves. There is not any good reason to sexualize children.
 
Yes, young girls around the globe are being sold as sex slaves, but I think this a far cry from that.

Ya think? However encouraging the view that children should be objects of sexual fascination doesn't help the situation.
 

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