Any new or rumors regarding the new ships??

[ALK$Disney]

I know its a long ways out, but tried to search all over the Internet and didn't see any new or rumors about the new ships. Trying to get any ideas of sailing dates and destinations. After our 2018 cruise, we want to take a break from cruising to save up for the new ships. I am sure we will be paying a high premium to sail the new ships.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

I know its a long ways out, but tried to search all over the Internet and didn't see any new or rumors about the new ships. Trying to get any ideas of sailing dates and destinations. After our 2018 cruise, we want to take a break from cruising to save up for the new ships. I am sure we will be paying a high premium to sail the new ships.

Recent threads:
https://www.disboards.com/threads/destinations-for-ships-5-6.3584735/
https://www.disboards.com/threads/i-have-a-few-questions.3586880/
https://www.disboards.com/threads/a...s-and-using-onboard-booking-discount.3583906/

 

[GoofyLovingFamily]

Pluto and Goofy atrium statues is what I have heard.

 

[dcassetta]

At the gold/platinum reception last week, there was zero mention of the new ships.

 

[truck1]

The only concrete things on the new ships is there size, which is relatively the same as the Dream class, but a little heavier at 135000 tons as opposed to 129000 for the Dream class. I saw a picture that is supposed to be on 1 or more the ships, that showed all of the atrium characters to date plus 2 more. There was subtle differences in the picture vs what made it on the ships but it could be poetic licensing or coincidence. I forget off hand what the other 2 characters in the picture was off hand. Realistically we wont know anything hard on the new ships for at least 1 to 11/2 years. And that mostly because DCL is still designing and getting everything approved from the DCL side, marine engineers side and all of the alphabet soup organizations that have a hand in it. Once that happens, youll start hearing more on the new ships. On the Fantasys maiden, Joe Lanzciero did a design talk on the Dream class and he said that there was over 10000 or 100000 drawings( I forget which off hand but am leaning towards the 100000) plus full size mock ups of every space on the ship. And I mean everything. They physically built a cabin from each class and furnished it with the actual materials. They built parts of the atrium, hallways, clubs kids areas mdrs crew areas.You name it, they built it in whole or in part. All were built in a wharehouse, sometimes rebuilt multiple times because it didn’t work out like it looked on paper, or colors didn’t work….

 

[dcassetta]

 

[squirk]

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Hmmmm...

 

[truck1]

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That's the one. My son or a friend of mine sent it to me on Facebook a while ago. When I compared the picture to the actual atrium statues, there are some subtle differences between the picture and the statue. Donald is looking to the left on the ship, not the right in the picture, Minnie is leaning on her umbrella in her left hand on the ship, Mickey looks over the left side of the wheel on the ship, not right like the picture, and Ariel is sitting on the pedestal looking over her right shoulder, not the bow figurine like the picture. Like I said, theres some subtle differences, but its any ones guess if its coincidence or hidden in plain sight.

 

[GoofyLovingFamily]

I did not know they built out mock cabins and other parts of the ship. It sure makes for a beautiful ship.

 

[truck1]

I did not know they built out mock cabins and other parts of the ship. It sure makes for a beautiful ship.

It was an awesome presentation. I wish there was a video of it somewhere. He was in the BVT doing the talk during a sea day, showed pictures of the mockups while they were inspecting them. Like I said some were partials, (Like the atrium for example) and some were full on mock ups( Like the cabins). There was a lot of attention to detail during the initial build, and a lot of changes made. I think the most they did was like 15 changes for 1 area alone to get things just right.

The other ting I did get answered during the qa (He came off stage at the end to answer questions) was this. Back in 2000, it was announced internally that DCL was building 2 new ships. They were canceled after 911. It was never really made public knowledge. Was the Dream class a renewed unbuilt class or a new class. The Dream class is actually a combination of the best parts of the Magic class, and the best parts of the unbuilt class, with a little bit of new and pixie dust thrown in for good measure. The unbuilt class was actually sized to be between the Magic and Dream classes. The other thing at the time was the inevitable question, is DCL building any more ships. Which the answer ultimately was no, but Joe got stuck on the answer and never really answered it. Here was the surprise. Bob Iger was in the room and got a mick and answered for Joe no, no new ships(at the time) they were going to see how things played out and put money back in the bank. The reason was, Disney as a whole dropped in the neighborhood of close to 10 billion dollars in that time frame for different things. If not more. Star Wars, 2 new ships, California Adventure rebuild and I think Pixar was in that time frame also. Bob did say this Each Dream class ship cost 1.2 billion each. Not the 900 million that was publicly announced.

 

[squirk]

That's the one. My son or a friend of mine sent it to me on Facebook a while ago. When I compared the picture to the actual atrium statues, there are some subtle differences between the picture and the statue. Donald is looking to the left on the ship, not the right in the picture, Minnie is leaning on her umbrella in her left hand on the ship, Mickey looks over the left side of the wheel on the ship, not right like the picture, and Ariel is sitting on the pedestal looking over her right shoulder, not the bow figurine like the picture. Like I said, theres some subtle differences, but its any ones guess if its coincidence or hidden in plain sight.

That image could have been flipped, but regardless of the subtle differences, the similarities are too substantial to be ignored out of hand. It would make a lot of sense to finally round out the Fab Five with the two missing members added to the atriums of the two new ships.

 

[truck1]

That image could have been flipped, but regardless of the subtle differences, the similarities are too substantial to be ignored out of hand. It would make a lot of sense to finally round out the Fab Five with the two missing members added to the atriums of the two new ships.

Its not just flipped. There a 2 or 3 that are complete different poses. Minnie and Ariel. Which is why I think if it's not coincidence it's hidden in plain sight as the inspiration. But I'd say there a better then average chance that the remaining 2 will get a ship.

 

[squirk]

Its not just flipped. There a 2 or 3 that are complete different poses. Minnie and Ariel. Which is why I think if it's not coincidence it's hidden in plain sight as the inspiration. But I'd say there a better then average chance that the remaining 2 will get a ship.

It would be a remarkable coincidence if Pluto and Goofy were included among the four other atrium mascots "just 'cause".

 

[truck1]

It would be a remarkable coincidence if Pluto and Goofy were included among the four other atrium mascots "just 'cause".

It would be. The more I look at it the more I think that picture might be from a cartoon (s) and that might be the inspiration for the statues.

 

[hermhogwarts55]

Cannot wait to hear more about them as their releases come close!

 

[mmouse37]

That is really interesting about the mock ups and that picture. I couldn't read the caption of it. Could anyone post it? I tried magnifying it but it was blurry.

Also, as to the mock ups. Makes perfect sense. I remember years ago at our local mall they did a full sized mock up of a cabin for Carnival. It was awesome. It was to promote one of their new ships that would sail out of NYC. I loved going in that store and seeing the cabin. It was not a Carnival store but a Travel Accessories store that had a tie in with Carnival.

MJ

 

[PurplePencil]

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Hmmmm...

That's the one. My son or a friend of mine sent it to me on Facebook a while ago. When I compared the picture to the actual atrium statues, there are some subtle differences between the picture and the statue. Donald is looking to the left on the ship, not the right in the picture, Minnie is leaning on her umbrella in her left hand on the ship, Mickey looks over the left side of the wheel on the ship, not right like the picture, and Ariel is sitting on the pedestal looking over her right shoulder, not the bow figurine like the picture. Like I said, theres some subtle differences, but its any ones guess if its coincidence or hidden in plain sight.

This was at the Epcot Festival of the Arts for anybody curious, there was a booth with Disney Cruise inspired Art

 

[GoofyLovingFamily]

Sea Farin brood is the caption name

 

[jdb in AZ]

Our travel agent told us yesterday that river cruising is the fastest-growing segment of the cruising market. Note that Disney has started chartering an AMA ship to cruise the rivers in Europe -- similar to when Disney chartered the Big Red Boat before DCL had their own ships. Wonder how soon it will be before DCL starts building their own river boats.

 

[truck1]

That is really interesting about the mock ups and that picture. I couldn't read the caption of it. Could anyone post it? I tried magnifying it but it was blurry.

Also, as to the mock ups. Makes perfect sense. I remember years ago at our local mall they did a full sized mock up of a cabin for Carnival. It was awesome. It was to promote one of their new ships that would sail out of NYC. I loved going in that store and seeing the cabin. It was not a Carnival store but a Travel Accessories store that had a tie in with Carnival.

MJ

I'll look I a minute and see if I can find the one I was tagged in. Never mind, In the time it took me to post that response someone beat me to it. And that was on my phone.