Any downside: link tickets to MDE?

[subtchr]

Yeah seems ridiculous that you need them for the simplest things but I guess it'll stop the otherwise tremendous headache of changing stuff

Disney's new slogan "We'll inconvenience you into buying stuff you really don't want"

Don't want to spring for "freaking" magicbands?

Since you said all the entitlements are assigned to the correct people now (except that one mysterious last one...I gave up trying to untangle that...), for each person in your MDE, take one card that is in his or her list on MDE. Take a sharpie, write the correct name on it. Boom, you have a free magicband. Yes, it's a plastic card, but it works the same way. They can use it on every trip.

 

[bumbershoot]

Do I assume correctly that if it's used before it becomes the last card/entitlement, then it should go through ok? How do you prioritize on the site so that entitlement gets used first? What a headache!

Otherwise I have to buy a new card or band just so they can use the card from before, and then I still have a worthless piece of plastic because there's a card that can never be used because the entitlements are elsewhere. What a ripoff. They really should tell you this as a warning before reassigning

How is having a piece of plastic that isn't used a ripoff? What value are you assigning a piece of plastic? They will give the person a new piece of plastic without charging them. Voila, two pieces of plastic to the price of one, except there's no cost to the piece of plastic.

Thanks for the help. I might have to do magicbands as it's too much of a pain in the butt otherwise. And who knows what other plans could change. How would I find the entitlement info? I found the magicbands and cards thing but I didn't find the entitlement info (not with the #s anyway). I do have the confirmation of the change email, I could bring that along with the old card, I don't know if that'd be good enough though. Hopefully won't take long, don't want to take much time away from Disney Quest

How will bands make anything any easier?

How do you find entitlements? Don't you know what you bought? I don't get it.

Yeah seems ridiculous that you need them for the simplest things but I guess it'll stop the otherwise tremendous headache of changing stuff

I don't think bands are going to change anything except that a person who feels that having a piece of plastic sitting in a drawer (while they give a new piece of plastic out) is a ripoff is now going to spend money on a piece of silicone.

 

[chloelovesdisney]

Subtchr, you are a saint.

I agree!

 

[epcotty]

Yeah sorry to be such a pain but it was tough to understand it all. The mysterious last one was the only one ever changed, which was initially assigned to someone then changed to someone else which could be used before it would be the last one (if used earlier on there would be a similar card in the first person it was assigned to's MDE), but apparently that would still screw things up in the system somehow and deny entry. Hopefully I can pick up the new card ok, the one it'll be assigned to won't be with me but I can bring the stuff from my MDE at least (or they can scan it, or both). I know what I got and think I know how to find entitlements now. MBs are cheap but I still really don't like them

 

[bumbershoot]

That reassigned entitlement must be accessed by using a MB.

THIS is the sentence that started it all.

Epcotty, hiro was responding to *someone else*, with a statement that made sense to that person's situation. You have a different situation, it wasn't in response to your situation, and shouldn't be taken as The Word.

By ticket I always mean the actual card actually.

Nope, you go back and forth:

There should be a warning on the site "Do not reassign any tickets without a magicband, or it makes them worthless"

Or you really really care about the plastic card being worthless. But I"m pretty sure you were worried that the entitlement (I call it "admission") was going to be unusable.

And there wouldn't be a warning like that, because the admission is still usable, and very few people consider a plastic card not being used to be a tragedy.

This means that any reassigned ticket is completely worthless unless you have a magicband?

Again, I'm pretty sure you're using "ticket" to mean "admission" or "entitlement" there, but it's just not true.

Hiro said MB because that's what made sense in response to the question he was answering. I don't think he meant it to be the full truth.

I'm seeing the money for the ticket going down the tubes

And does this mean that noone can use the reassigned ticket until a replacement has been issued?

Until they install the chips in our bodies, the person wanting to enter the park will have some sort of "carrier" for that admission info, so yes, they will need either a card or a band to be scanned.

There's only one actual MDE, mine (and I have family members on it). So I guess that's a problem, huh?

Not even a little bit of a problem.

In fact I think it makes it easier. I have made sure that DH doesn't create an account, and while I told my cousin that she *could* make an account, I think it's been easier that she didn't.

I have an account; I have the username and password.

On my account, I have *profiles*. I have profiles for:

hubby Robert
son Eamon
aunt Sarah (fake name!)
cousin Amy (fake name!)
cousin's son Elijah (fake name!)
cousin's daughter Aaliyah (fake name!)

All have past MBs on the account. Those of us who have had admission also have cards showing there; the cards represent the entitlements/admission media, though none of us have ever actually had CARDS since MBs were introduced. It's just a representative, on MY account and in my specific experience.

If I bought a ticket, an admission, for my cousin and assigned it to her, then she got sick and sent her son, I could reassign it to her son. Her son has a MB on the account, so assuming he still has it, he would just use that to enter the park. If he did NOT have the MB anymore, we would stop at a window before entering the park and they would grab a piece of plastic, assign it to his profile in my MDE, which would then allow that plastic to access that admission/entitlement, and we would skip joyfully over to the turnstiles and go on in.

If not, they can get a new plastic card at guest relations.

Yep. Epcotty, that's the sentence that needs to replace Hiro's sentence for you.

The person to whom you assign the entitlement can use any "media" in his or her MDE account to access that ticket entitlement at the touchpoint. OR, if the person does not have any such media, a quick stop at guest relations can fix the problem by getting a new plastic card.

Yep.

From what was said before it seemed that would be a problem

The response to another person's situation is what you're focusing on. It wasn't in response to you. Subtchr's responses have been *to you* and your situation.

Ok so it is a problem. Just great. There is no account besides mine. So they have to get a new card, huh? Why don't they tell you this?

No it isn't a problem.

They don't tell you this because it's such a non issue. If they had said "stop by guest relations for a new piece of plastic before going to the turnstiles" would that really have changed anything for you?

So theoretically I could set up a new MDE account and attach the reassigned card to it?

Oh my gracious NO, do not do that. You actually have the perfect situation going, with you having the MDE and everyone having simple profiles, right now. Don't complicate matters.

You keep mentioning that you are the only one with an MDE account. But each person has his or her own profile in your MDE.

But they really should tell you these things.

Seriously, it wouldn't have changed anything. Subtchr is telling you now.

I'd have to check but I'd assume so, how would you find out? I have clicked on the different names before and had the tickets for those people show up however, I don't know if that's significant or not

If you are trying to see what tickets/entitlements/cards people have, and you click on their profiles that you set up and there are entitlements and cards showing up, then that is the very definition of significant.

I feel I wasted my money on that ticket now, I'm such an idiot

You will not lose money. You will not lose anything except for that one piece of plastic which you can now frame.

See my post above, also to update you, my worst nightmare is true.

There is no nightmare whatsoever here.

Disney can and will fix it for you. You won't lose anything.

Absolutely.

I was aiming for 2 current entitlements in 3 accounts

This would be soooo much easier if you would have listed out people (fake names) and what you have (2 day ticket, 1 day ticket, etc) for us.

Disney's new slogan "We'll inconvenience you into buying stuff you really don't want"

Disney isn't doing that, though. You are getting yourself confuzzled and are thinking that this is the case, but it's not the case.

Buying MBs and having them assigned to the profile will take the same, if not more, time than getting a new piece of plastic for the one person to use.

The mysterious last one was the only one ever changed

If only we knew what that meant.

initially assigned to someone then changed to someone else which could be used before it would be the last one (if used earlier on there would be a similar card in the first person it was assigned to's MDE), but apparently that would still screw things up in the system somehow and deny entry.

Say what now?

If you want more, why not list it out like I did above with my account? In my case each person has multiple old bands, some old "cards", and no current admission/entitlement. Not even me.

If you listed it out maybe it would be easier to understand to give you even more specific answers to your concerns.


But you're not an idiot, you've wasted nothing but a bit of time and worry, and this will allllllll be easily resolved.

Would almost certainly be best if you called the tech number given once or twice in this thread, so they can access your account and place things EXACTLY where you want them.

 

[hiroMYhero]

The mysterious last one was the only one ever changed, which was initially assigned to someone then changed to someone else which could be used before it would be the last one (if used earlier on there would be a similar card in the first person it was assigned to's MDE)

It would really be helpful if you used actual names. Let's say it's Walt who has received the entitlement in his MDE "line" in your MDE account. An entitlement is an entitlement whether it was listed over a year ago or reassigned today.

Walt has a plastic ticket linked to his MDE line in your MDE account.

Walt gets to a park with his plastic ticket in hand. He scans it at the park entrance and 1 entitlement is automatically deducted from his account.

The next day, Walt gets to park #2 with his plastic ticket in hand. He scans it at park #2 and the last entitlement is deducted from his account.

apparently that would still screw things up in the system somehow and deny entry.

As @subtchr has explained, nothing is screwed up. Walt has entitlements and the plastic ticket in his hand provides the link to the entitlements when he shows up at the park.

Please don't go to Guest Relations ~ you will be wasting your time.

 

[epcotty]

THIS is the sentence that started it all.

Epcotty, hiro was responding to *someone else*, with a statement that made sense to that person's situation. You have a different situation, it wasn't in response to your situation, and shouldn't be taken as The Word.




Nope, you go back and forth:



Or you really really care about the plastic card being worthless. But I"m pretty sure you were worried that the entitlement (I call it "admission") was going to be unusable.

And there wouldn't be a warning like that, because the admission is still usable, and very few people consider a plastic card not being used to be a tragedy.




Again, I'm pretty sure you're using "ticket" to mean "admission" or "entitlement" there, but it's just not true.

Hiro said MB because that's what made sense in response to the question he was answering. I don't think he meant it to be the full truth.





Until they install the chips in our bodies, the person wanting to enter the park will have some sort of "carrier" for that admission info, so yes, they will need either a card or a band to be scanned.



Not even a little bit of a problem.

In fact I think it makes it easier. I have made sure that DH doesn't create an account, and while I told my cousin that she *could* make an account, I think it's been easier that she didn't.

I have an account; I have the username and password.

On my account, I have *profiles*. I have profiles for:

hubby Robert
son Eamon
aunt Sarah (fake name!)
cousin Amy (fake name!)
cousin's son Elijah (fake name!)
cousin's daughter Aaliyah (fake name!)

All have past MBs on the account. Those of us who have had admission also have cards showing there; the cards represent the entitlements/admission media, though none of us have ever actually had CARDS since MBs were introduced. It's just a representative, on MY account and in my specific experience.

If I bought a ticket, an admission, for my cousin and assigned it to her, then she got sick and sent her son, I could reassign it to her son. Her son has a MB on the account, so assuming he still has it, he would just use that to enter the park. If he did NOT have the MB anymore, we would stop at a window before entering the park and they would grab a piece of plastic, assign it to his profile in my MDE, which would then allow that plastic to access that admission/entitlement, and we would skip joyfully over to the turnstiles and go on in.




Yep. Epcotty, that's the sentence that needs to replace Hiro's sentence for you.



Yep.



The response to another person's situation is what you're focusing on. It wasn't in response to you. Subtchr's responses have been *to you* and your situation.



No it isn't a problem.

They don't tell you this because it's such a non issue. If they had said "stop by guest relations for a new piece of plastic before going to the turnstiles" would that really have changed anything for you?



Oh my gracious NO, do not do that. You actually have the perfect situation going, with you having the MDE and everyone having simple profiles, right now. Don't complicate matters.







Seriously, it wouldn't have changed anything. Subtchr is telling you now.



If you are trying to see what tickets/entitlements/cards people have, and you click on their profiles that you set up and there are entitlements and cards showing up, then that is the very definition of significant.



You will not lose money. You will not lose anything except for that one piece of plastic which you can now frame.



There is no nightmare whatsoever here.



Absolutely.



This would be soooo much easier if you would have listed out people (fake names) and what you have (2 day ticket, 1 day ticket, etc) for us.



Disney isn't doing that, though. You are getting yourself confuzzled and are thinking that this is the case, but it's not the case.

Buying MBs and having them assigned to the profile will take the same, if not more, time than getting a new piece of plastic for the one person to use.



If only we knew what that meant.



Say what now?

If you want more, why not list it out like I did above with my account? In my case each person has multiple old bands, some old "cards", and no current admission/entitlement. Not even me.

If you listed it out maybe it would be easier to understand to give you even more specific answers to your concerns.


But you're not an idiot, you've wasted nothing but a bit of time and worry, and this will allllllll be easily resolved.

Would almost certainly be best if you called the tech number given once or twice in this thread, so they can access your account and place things EXACTLY where you want them.

Thanks for the long detailed response. I guess the main thing is we rarely go down there so it's tough to do guest relations on a day when we don't actually go to a park (in which case couldn't do FP before). As for them explaining things, there must be a lot of people who stupidly reassigned tickets like me and don't have MBs who were mad that they were denied entry and had to go to guest relations and lost their FP

 

[epcotty]

It would really be helpful if you used actual names. Let's say it's Walt who has received the entitlement in his MDE "line" in your MDE account. An entitlement is an entitlement whether it was listed over a year ago or reassigned today.

Walt has a plastic ticket linked to his MDE line in your MDE account.

Walt gets to a park with his plastic ticket in hand. He scans it at the park entrance and 1 entitlement is automatically deducted from his account.

The next day, Walt gets to park #2 with his plastic ticket in hand. He scans it at park #2 and the last entitlement is deducted from his account.


As @subtchr has explained, nothing is screwed up. Walt has entitlements and the plastic ticket in his hand provides the link to the entitlements when he shows up at the park.

Please don't go to Guest Relations ~ you will be wasting your time.

Thanks for the reply. I think I do need guest relations from what was said before. The problem was that "Walt"'s entitlements from one card was reassigned to "Kathy" so once it got down to that card/entitlement (or even if used earlier on), Kathy would have to use the card originally assigned to Walt because Kathy wouldn't have a current similar card anymore and the system would be confused.

 

[hiroMYhero]

Thanks for the reply. I think I do need guest relations from what was said before. The problem was that "Walt"'s entitlements from one card was reassigned to "Kathy" so once it got down to that card/entitlement (or even if used earlier on), Kathy would have to use the card originally assigned to Walt because Kathy wouldn't have a current similar card anymore and the system would be confused.

Kathy cannot use Walt's hard, plastic ticket.

Kathy uses her own hard, plastic ticket when she gets to the park.

Kathy's hard, plastic ticket links to all of the entitlements that are listed/linked to her "line" in your MDE account.

Step back and look at Kathy's MDE line. Her hard, plastic ticket is all that she needs to enter a park. Kathy does not need to ask Guest Relations for another card. If Kathy has to stand in line at Guest Relations only to be told she does not need another plastic ticket, she may not want to go to the park with you in the future.

 

[subtchr]

...because Kathy wouldn't have a current similar card anymore and the system would be confused.

Just to add to Hiro's excellent response above, WHY doesn't Kathy have a card anymore? She has already gone to the park previously and used a card, correct? Tell her to KEEP THAT CARD, write KATHY on it, and then she can use it whenever she enters the park. You have already assigned Walt's old entitlement to her, so she's all set.

 

[epcotty]

But the plastic ticket is used up when it has used the thing it says on the card, right? That's what I always would think. I wonder why do they even let you reassign tickets if they make it so tough. And why do they HAVE to be assigned to anyone in particular in the first place? I know, those are questions noone here can answer. But It ends up in a lot of unusable cards that people have to have replaced and guest relations employees going to to the employee lounge to curse about it

 

[hiroMYhero]

But the plastic ticket is used up when it has used the thing it says on the card, right? That's what I always would think. I wonder why do they even let you reassign tickets if they make it so tough. And why do they HAVE to be assigned to anyone in particular in the first place? I know, those are questions noone here can answer. But It ends up in a lot of unusable cards that people have to have replaced and guest relations employees going to to the employee lounge to curse about it

Plastic tickets are not "used up." They remain linked to specific "lines" in your MDE account - equivalent to a MagicBand. Always exists where it is linked.

Do Not Go To Guest Relations. Kathy uses her hard, plastic ticket at every park entrance and at every tapstile line.

But, if you insist on going to Guest Relations, no one is stopping you but Kathy, who doesn't need a new plastic ticket, will need to be with you. And, she will wonder why you made her go to Guest Relations for no reason at all.

 

[subtchr]

But the plastic ticket is used up when it has used the thing it says on the card, right?

I have probably explained this half a dozen times in this thread. You have objections in your head that you refuse to let go of. It is keeping you from comprehending what we are all trying to tell you.

Once a plastic card is linked to an individual in MDE, he or she can use that plastic card exactly like a magic band. FOREVER. It will access all the information in the MDE, including any other park entry entitlements or fastpass reservations.

 

[hiroMYhero]

@subtchr explained everything very thoroughly yesterday.

I am not sure why you continually present that you are confused about entitlements versus hard, plastic tickets especially when you have posted in other threads that you have non-expiry tickets. You know what entitlements are; you know what hard, plastic tickets are.

Put Kathy's hard, plastic ticket in her hand and send her to the park entrance. Do not direct her to Guest Relations.

If you want to read about entitlements versus plastic tickets, read ScrapYap's post. Omit the word "party" from every sentence and the post gives you the exact same info that this complete thread has given you:

Use CAUTION when Reassigning Halloween and Christmas Party Tickets

 

[epcotty]

Just to add to Hiro's excellent response above, WHY doesn't Kathy have a card anymore? She has already gone to the park previously and used a card, correct? Tell her to KEEP THAT CARD, write KATHY on it, and then she can use it whenever she enters the park. You have already assigned Walt's old entitlement to her, so she's all set.

The old cards have been trashed but there are still current cards. However the one card that's "officially" Kathy's is an MK one, and the one that's "unofficially" Kathy's is an EP/HS/AK one. The MK one might not work at all in the scanners at EP/HS/AK, regardless of it supposedly accessing the account

 

[epcotty]

I have probably explained this half a dozen times in this thread. You have objections in your head that you refuse to let go of. It is keeping you from comprehending what we are all trying to tell you.

Once a plastic card is linked to an individual in MDE, he or she can use that plastic card exactly like a magic band. FOREVER. It will access all the information in the MDE, including any other park entry entitlements or fastpass reservations.

Wow, somehow I didn't understand this before. I still think the tapstyles at EP/HS/AK will reject an MK one regardless though

 

[epcotty]

@subtchr explained everything very thoroughly yesterday.

I am not sure why you continually present that you are confused about entitlements versus hard, plastic tickets especially when you have posted in other threads that you have non-expiry tickets. You know what entitlements are; you know what hard, plastic tickets are.

Put Kathy's hard, plastic ticket in her hand and send her to the park entrance. Do not direct her to Guest Relations.

If you want to read about entitlements versus plastic tickets, read ScrapYap's post. Omit the word "party" from every sentence and the post gives you the exact same info that this complete thread has given you:

Use CAUTION when Reassigning Halloween and Christmas Party Tickets

To me it's all the same thing with tickets and entitlements so gets confusing. I really didn't know about entitlements until now. Why did I reassign the stupid ticket? I was so dumb and wasn't thinking things through. They really should get rid of that as an option even, or just have tickets not be assigned to anyone. It only creates confusion and rejects people entering parks when they should be able to

 

[hiroMYhero]

The old cards have been trashed but there are still current cards. However the one card that's "officially" Kathy's is an MK one, and the one that's "unofficially" Kathy's is an EP/HS/AK one. The MK one might not work at all in the scanners at EP/HS/AK, regardless of it supposedly accessing the account

The hard, plastic ticket exists as a hard plastic ticket. It is not MK nor Epcot/Studios/AK.

The plastic ticket is basically an envelope that carried the entitlements to you. Now use that envelope/hard, plastic ticket to enter a park.

IT'S THE ENTITLEMENTS that carry the park distinction. Put the ticket in Kathy's hand and send her to the park entrance.

 

[subtchr]

The old cards have been trashed but there are still current cards. However the one card that's "officially" Kathy's is an MK one, and the one that's "unofficially" Kathy's is an EP/HS/AK one. The MK one might not work at all in the scanners at EP/HS/AK, regardless of it supposedly accessing the account

You're still not getting it. Once a ticket is used the first time, it is just a freaking piece of plastic. Doesn't matter what it had on it before. And it will never have anything "on" it again. What it has is an RFID chip inside, that is now a link to WHATEVER is in Kathy's MDE profile.

So Kathy's is NOT an "MK" one or an "EP/HS/AK" one. It is a link to whichever entitlement in her MDE profile is prioritized next.

 

[Doug M]

Nice try all, doesn't look like it got through though. OP needs to call Disney.