Another FMIL Problem

dannirose

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Sorry this is really long but I have to get this out because it is bothering me...

I have a pretty good relationship with my FMIL - we talk a lot and generally get along very well. DF teases me that I know more about what goes on in his family than he does. That said, she's done a few things lately that are putting me in an awkward position.

First was when we started talking about getting engaged and planning a wedding - she made it clear they could not afford to contribute financially which was fine by us as we had been planning on paying for the wedding ourselves. As we talked about possible locations and plans my FMIL got upset that I didn't see the need to run the ideas by DF's older sister. My reaction was (but I phrased it much more nicely) IT'S NOT HER WEDDING!

The second thing was once we had actually gotten engaged - my mother has begun making plans to give DF and I an engagement party. She has thrown one for each of my step-siblings so it was pretty clear she was going to throw one for us. Now, my family is large (over 100 of us) so we already have a big guest list. My mom also planned to invite DF's parents, sis, and his aunts and uncles (another 15 people) plus a couple of our very close friends (6). My FMIL wants all the cousins invited (roughly 38 more people) and a bunch of her friends! She is not looking to have a separate party which is fine by us but she doesn't like that she can't invite whom she wants to my mother's party.

The third thing which is what really has gotten to me was something she said the other night. DF and I made little booklets as an engagement announcement/save the date to send out to everyone which include a response card indicating basic interest in attending so we know just how large a wedding we are looking at.

My FMIL was helping me assemble them and finally gave me the list of people we are supposed to send them to on their side. I had asked that she start marking who is A list and who is B list so we can see what we are dealing with. As we're doing the booklets she said to me "I know you haven't looked at my list yet but I counted and you need to send out over 50 booklets and invitations just to our side - which is well over 100 guests so you are only going to have room for 40 of your family members." I was stunned and said something about not everyone will be coming on either side despite what they are saying now.

She dropped the subject and I mentioned it to DF later when we were alone and told him I was a little surprised by the comment. He said not to worry we'll be trimming the list on both sides. Then we were talking about his mother's list and he made some changes to it - removed a couple of people he no longer speaks to, added a few she had forgotten, etc.

I had to ask her about a few of the addresses on the list because they were incomplete and she saw the changes that had been made and asked about them. I told her it was DF's decision and she said she'd have to see about that and then she made the remark about me not having a lot of room for my family again. This time I said we will be cutting names on both sides not just mine to make sure we have the people important to both of us there which was why I had asked her to use an A list and a B list. She told me she did (her B list had 3 names on it) by not including her sister's best friend and her daughter's godmother. I said I know it's tough to leave people out but there was no way we could include everyone on her list and on my mom's list and just as I told my mom to try harder at cutting people, she would have to do the same, otherwise she was going to run the risk of DF and I cutting someone that really was important to her.

Well can you imagine how well that went over? She was clearly surprised I even said anything like that to her but I get the impression she thinks she can convince DF to agree with her not me. She kind of runs hot and cold over the whole Disney wedding to begin with - I am hearing more and more comments about my "untraditional" wedding but I have just let them pass because I figure as we make more of the plans and things come together she'll see our wedding is really going to be special. I just really can't get over she would even think for a second that I would leave my first cousins off the list to be able to include his second cousins!
 
Wow - she sounds like a mix of my mom and grandmother. Just ignore what she says - Do what you want.. it is your wedding and you are paying for it. She already made it clear she wasn't contributing and if you are dishing out the money then you say who comes and doesn't come. Your first cousins should definetaly be chosen over seconds. A wedding is so special and having it at disney you want it to be as intimate as possible by only keeping those people special to you and your df close to you. People you see on regular bases. That's my opinion. I wouldn't worry about her. It's just sad that she has to act that way.
 
Ugh I would be so annoyed by her! Reminds me of my fmil...she is not that excited about a summer wedding (good thing it is MY wedding and not hers!). You and your DF need to make the decisions about guests list and wedding stuff. Don't even deal with her when it comes to the guest list...let your DF deal with her! What I decided to do let my DF invite the same amount of people that I will be inviting...this has worked out so far for us and our parents. As far as the engagement party goes...your FMIL is not allowed to invite people when it is not HER party! Tell her in a polite way that she is welcome to throw you a second engagement party if she wants so that she will be able to invite whoever she wants.

Good luck!! I totally understand how you are feeling! princess:
 
Yikes. The good news is that I think you are handling it well. I think you should just stick to your guns and keep telling her that the guest list will come from both sides and to make sure that the people who are really important to her get on the A list. I'd go so far as putting a number on the A list like 50 people. If you let her see that she gets to you on any level, she will keep it up. You just have to be firm and make sure your hubby to be is with you and you present a united front.
We all have FMIL problems. I swear mine is mentally ill. When we went over our wedding plans with her, she literally told me it was too good for me and I didn't need to spend $15,000 on a wedding. I should just go to the JP and have dinner somewhere. She said I could get silk flowers and make a $5 centerpiece for the restaurant and that (I quote) "Is good enough for you." She also didn't want to see my ring. When I tried to show it to her, she covered her eyes, ran out of the house and then walked around the block until we left. Bizarre. My fiance is her youngest. I think mothers get weird when they think they are losing their baby. Even though we have been dating and living together for over 7 years, have a house, car, baby, etc. together, she still tells Scott that I am going to leave him since I will be making more money than him in my new career. I have news for her, I've been making more money than him for years.
 

YOU ONLY HAVE ROOM FOR 40 PEOPLE...you are frigging kidding me.
 
Thanks ladies - it makes me feel better just knowing I am not crazy/over-reacting, etc. :grouphug:
 
Just out of curiosity about his sister...She's not, by any chance, dating someone seriously or approaching the wedding point herself, is she? I ask because maybe mom was hoping that everyone could work out their plans, dates, etc. together in order to accomodate both couples? I know that in DH's family, that SHOULD have happened b/c we had to push back our intended date by about 5 months to accomodate a wedding that came up later, because we had no idea they were planning. If that makes any sense...maybe mom is trying to encourage harmony there?
 
My only advice is to be a united front with your fiancé. If he's not behind you and agreeing with any decisions you make together, it will probably show and his mother will ... well for lack of a better way to put it ... smell his fear and try to change his mind or influence him. Good luck!
 
Wow I am so sorry!! I as well have had FMIL problems, (what is with them!?) Anyways the bottom line is that if she is not paying for any part of it then she does not have any say! She can have 1/2 of the guest list if that is what you decide but she is not intitled to anymore than that. If she asks or demands for more than demand for her to pay for those extra people. You have to stand up for yourself now so she is not a problem in the future! *hugs*
 
WDWAurora said:
Just out of curiosity about his sister...She's not, by any chance, dating someone seriously or approaching the wedding point herself, is she? I ask because maybe mom was hoping that everyone could work out their plans, dates, etc. together in order to accomodate both couples?

Sadly no, his sister is very single. I actually think my FMIL wants his sister to be so involved because she probably will not get married and they are looking at it not as DF's wedding, but theirs. On a certain level I can understand that, but (I couldn't figure out a way to say this nicely) that's not my problem. Ironically, everyone (on both sides of the family) expected MY mother to be the problem (she has a tendency to run amok) and while she is amusing us by how excited she is, she is being so super careful not to do anything without asking us if it is ok first.

DF and I had a long talk about all of this last night and he told me not to worry as long as we agree on the plans we're making that's all that counts.
 
I think that's the important thing, that you and DFH stand together behind your decisions. I know that from this experience with my FMIL I know exactly what I'm NOT going to do when my kids get married. We will all be stronger and wiser people after this.
Good luck, I hope it all works out.
 
My MIL had more than 600 people on their side. I'm not sure I even know 600 people. :sad2:

They all got invited, but most of them declined (thank goodness). I'm divorced now, but if I ever get married again, I'm going to elope.
 
My FMIL is....hmmm...how to put this nicely?....INSANE.

I could give a million examples, but what good would that really do? And really? I hate to even think about the nasty, vindictive, bitter things she has done. The fact that the entire family recognizes it is cold comfort.

It bums me out, because my mom and dad are both passed away, and I would have loved to have a "mom" again. I was raised to respect my elders, and treat others as I would like to be treated. And, boy, has she used that against me. It hurts me for my fiance, because I can see that her actions cause him a great deal of pain.

She is the major reason we are eloping. It's sad, but I have to deal with what is, not what I wish was.

All I can say, ladies, is that IHEARTVILLIANS is right--we need to take a lesson from these things, and vow not to treat your future son or daughter in law as you have been treated. Love them openly and with great acceptance and they will bless you every day of your lives, as my dad did his MIL--who, oh yeah, was my grandmother.

Life is so short--why do people want to waste it being nasty and small? :confused3
 
Well I certainly agree we are getting a good lesson in how not to behave.

I read some of the things that our FMILs have said and done and it's just so sad. Pixie dust for all of us to stay strong and come through smelling like roses. pixiedust:
 
I know how you all feel about FMIL and I have the been blessed by having 3 of them. Yup, I said 3 mother -in -laws!!!! Long story short he was adopted but he was reunited with his biological Mother and Father.... who have seperate families now. He calls them all Mom and Dad. It is so confusing sometimes because I don't know which Mom he is talking about. Just wanted you to know that I understand what you are going through and just wanted to let you know at least you only have 1 to deal with. To be honest I thought it was going to be worse but they have all been reasonable, probably because they know we are paying for it all. It sounds as though your 1 FMIL is worse then the 3 of mine combined. Good luck with your FMIL and stick to your guns. It is your wedding!
 
Wow, I think you be marrying my DF's brother b/c my FMIL did the same thing to me! The whole guest list got to be such a pain that we just said immediate family (our grandparents, siblings, our parents, their siblings, and children) were invited. Then DF and I added 15 of our friends. Well, FMIL flipped out! She did not like that my family could invited 40 people, and she could only have 22. Like it's my fault her family is not as large as mine :furious: She is not paying a dime, my parents are paying for everything by the way. She also said we were spending way too much $ on the wedding, and that we should just have a reception at Olive Garden.

My FMIL has driven me crazy for 5 years, and I have tried and tried to understand her, and maybe have a good relationship w/ her. Just a couple months ago, I vowed to myself I was not going to go out of my way to do anything for her, and I will just ignore her and not take anything she says personally. It sad that things couldn't be different :sad2:

I say you and your DF should just invited who YOU want, especially b/c you are paying for the wedding yourselves. Try to let what she says roll off your back. Good luck to you :)
 


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