Annual Pass Rumors??

[Jrb1979]

True comedy! Too close to the truth. You have a talent there.

You guys laugh but with what's going on with the lawsuit that the days of no blackout dates are over.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[jade1]

At least Disney's lawyers appear to be well aware of the issues raised with their current system. So, that alone might change the future pass offerings.

Seems like "No blackout days subject to park availability" would suffice.

 

[Miffy]

I guess they're not even considering ending the park reservation system, hunh?

 

[jade1]

they bring over a monkey from Animal Kingdom about every three months to spin it.

Oh the quarterly anticipation.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[jade1]

I guess they're not even considering ending the park reservation system, hunh?

Probably not. But technically parks filled to capacity in the past, and AP we're turned away.

The verbaige could be still there even if the reservation system does go away, or is only implemented at busier/peak times

The current "issue" gives them an "out" to drop all AP's if they wanted.

I know a lot of folks waiting for an AP that would buy in heartbeat, even with subject to park availability verbaige.

I mean, we renewed last month knowing full well there was park reservations needed, and that some days would be unavailable.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[Ms Bibbidi]

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[lowlight]

Does Disney not fear the coming recession?

 

[Miffy]

This is all so interesting and again, many thanks to you, @Ms Bibbidi, for your clear and detailed posts.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[Jrb1979]

I'm sure their advance financial forecasting is pretty sophisticated and has scoped things out. Maybe the upcoming changes will even be friendlier to passholders because of that.

I have my doubts. If anything they will offer discounts and promotions to those staying on property.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[Miffy]

You could also be right on that. Mr. Chapek does have a history of trying to prioritize on-site guests to the detriment of passholders. But, historically, passholders are the safety net of revenue for Disney in hard times, so a recession might change that priority.

Yet they ended DME, something used only by on-site guests. And, from the reviews I've read, its replacement, the Mears pay-for-it service is not very good.

 

[Jrb1979]

Yet they ended DME, something used only by on-site guests. And, from the reviews I've read, its replacement, the Mears pay-for-it service is not very good.

They are still prioritizing on-site guests. Their reservation bucket seems to have more availability then AP holders. IMO they also trying to recoup losses from Covid.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[Jrb1979]

Doesn't that just frost you? That we, the current park attendee in June 2022 should have to give Disney money for people who did not attend the parks in 2020? At what point shouldn't Disney just book the loss and move on. If that's the case it is very unfair to us.

Agreed. Since Covid they have gone in a completely different direction. As a guy who visits multiple amusement parks every year and follow the industry closely, Disney is the only one to away from what they did best in regards to the parks. Just about every other amusement park company just went about their business as usual. Yes some made changes to go cashless and have upped prices. As far as day to day operations go most kept to what they have always done.

As a brand Disney is tops but as far as day to day park operations go a lot of the regional parks do it much better. Look no further then the Japanese Disney parks. They are some of the best run parks in the world. They aren't run by Disney.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

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[Smugpugmug]

As a brand Disney is tops but as far as day to day park operations go a lot of the regional parks do it much better. Look no further then the Japanese Disney parks. They are some of the best run parks in the world. They aren't run by Disney.

I agree with this part in particular. I visited Tokyo Disneyland/Disneysea in 2019 and I think they are the best Disney parks hands down. They're super clean and they take amazing care of their rides. I do think the fact that they're not owned by Disney is why they're so great. They did recently begin to have a paid skip the line service like Paris's Premier Pass but I don't think it's that bad considering that I paid $120 USD total for a 2 day park ticket. I can't wait for Japan to begin allowing tourists again so I can take another visit, especially with the new expansion opening in Disneysea.